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[Lord Zeuss]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

So epoch is trolling over here, too? Nice.

We've seen worse. And he's not normally like this. *shrug*

[NuclearBuddha]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
So epoch is trolling over here, too? Nice.

We've seen worse. And he's not normally like this. *shrug*

Sadly, it looks like the average day for the Tali thread.

Anyway...

[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
So epoch is trolling over here, too? Nice.

We've seen worse. And he's not normally like this. *shrug*

Sadly, it looks like the average day for the Tali thread.

What's up?

[Andaius20]

Epoch,and his shenanigans again it seems.

[NuclearBuddha]

Collider wrote...
What's up?

Not much.  Just wondered what was happening over here.  Sadly, no obvious topic for me to latch onto.  And I don't have any Ash-related FF to pimp offer.

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 20 mai 2010 - 09:22 .

[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...
What's up?

Not much.  Just wondered what was happening over here.  Sadly, no obvious topic for me to latch onto.  And I don't have any Ash-related FF to pimp offer.

Try the Garrus thread. We're having an interesting discussion.

[Lord Zeuss]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...
What's up?

Not much.  Just wondered what was happening over here.  Sadly, no obvious topic for me to latch onto.  And I don't have any Ash-related FF to pimp offer.

You know, it's uncanny that you should mention that, because I've been resisting the urge to self-promote, but I'd literally just decided to share Pastime with the denizens of this thread. (Ash with a violin--it could happen!)

[NuclearBuddha]

Okay: She likes Tennyson. How about other poets? I was thinking Frost.

[Lord Zeuss]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Okay: She likes Tennyson. How about other poets? I was thinking Frost.

Sadly, my knowledge of poets begins and ends with Tennyson.

[Collider]

Mass Effect wiki:

"Ashley was originally to recite Robert Heinlein's "Cool Green Hills of Earth." The rights for Heinlein's work are rather complex, and when time ran out to acquire permission, it was replaced with Tennyson's "Ulysses," which is in the public domain."

[NuclearBuddha]

Collider wrote...

Mass Effect wiki:
"Ashley was originally to recite Robert Heinlein's "Cool Green Hills of Earth." The rights for Heinlein's work are rather complex, and when time ran out to acquire permission, it was replaced with Tennyson's "Ulysses," which is in the public domain."

I did not know that.  Never read of Heinlein's poetry (or knew he was a poet).  Is it any good?

[epoch_]

Honey mustard: yay, or nay?

[NuclearBuddha]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Okay: She likes Tennyson. How about other poets? I was thinking Frost.

Sadly, my knowledge of poets begins and ends with Tennyson.

You must know Frost.

Road Not Taken

Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening

?

[SilverRose208]

Wouldn't see her as a Frost fan necessarily. Maybe Byron, ooh, or Keats.

[Lord Zeuss]

Some work of noble note, may yet be done,

Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.

[NuclearBuddha]

SilverRose208 wrote...

Wouldn't see her as a Frost fan necessarily. Maybe Byron, ooh, or Keats.

Really?  Could you elaborate?

Byron and Keats I could see.  They're more... epic (edit:  narrative might be a better word for what I'm trying to say).  I'm shamefully fond of La Belle Dame myself...

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 20 mai 2010 - 09:36 .

[Lord Zeuss]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Okay: She likes Tennyson. How about other poets? I was thinking Frost.

Sadly, my knowledge of poets begins and ends with Tennyson.

You must know Frost.

Road Not Taken

Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening

?

Now I do.

[Lord Zeuss]

I cannot rest from travel: I will drink
Life to the lees: All times I have enjoy'd
Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, both with those
That loved me, and alone, on shore, and when
Thro' scudding drifts the rainy Hyades
Vext the dim sea: I am become a name;
For always roaming with a hungry heart
Much have I seen and known; cities of men
And manners, climates, councils, governments,
Myself not least, but honour'd of them all;
And drunk delight of battle with my peers,
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy.

[SilverRose208]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

SilverRose208 wrote...

Wouldn't see her as a Frost fan necessarily. Maybe Byron, ooh, or Keats.

Really?  Could you elaborate?

Byron and Keats I could see.  They're more... epic (edit:  narrative might be a better word for what I'm trying to say).  I'm shamefully fond of La Belle Dame myself...

Comparing Frost to Tennyson, to me, is like comparing Hemmingway to Fitzgerald.  Differing styles, differing emphasis - one short and punctuated, the other, as you say, epic/narrative.  Frost isn't nearly as literary as the others.  Not to mention, I wouldn't exactly call Frost one of those "sappy" poets.  He's more of a realist.  Nothing Gold Can Stay, Fire & Ice, etc.

[Jhon Flash]

Seeger, Dante, Poe.

[SilverRose208]

I really hope she's discovered Milton. Of course, if she started quoting Paradise Lost, all the "religious zealot" trolls would have a field day.

[Collider]

I don't know how they can say she's a zealot. She's spiritual for sure, but that's about it as far as we know.

[ashlover mark 2]

that it????poetry topic done????anybody got anthoer topic???

[Telemachus78]

What about Walt Witman



O Captain my Captain! our fearful trip is done;

The ship has weathered every rack, the prize we sought is won;

The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,

While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:





But O heart! heart! heart!

O the bleeding drops of red,

Where on the deck my Captain lies,

Fallen cold and dead.





O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;

Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills;

For you bouquets and ribboned wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding;

For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;

Here Captain! dear father!

This arm beneath your head;

It is some dream that on the deck,

You’ve fallen cold and dead.





My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;

My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;

The ship is anchored safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;

From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won;

Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!

But I, with mournful tread,

Walk the deck my Captain lies,

Fallen cold and dead.

[SilverRose208]

I really, really wish there was a dialogue option in the game when she calls Shep "O Captain, my Captain" for him to reply, "You want me to fall cold and dead?" Also, is it bad that's the first thing I thought when I heard her say that?

Edit: *puts on critical thinking cap*  You know, it's actually an interesting poem to reference in the broader scope of ME.  The Whitman poem is (acknowledged as) a reference to Moby Dick.  Could the reapers be Shepard's 'white whale', the objects he's chasing ultimately to his own destruction?  Hmm.  Kind of fits.

Modifié par SilverRose208, 20 mai 2010 - 10:49 .