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[Ashii6]

LiamN7 wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Hello everyone
What's is topic?

Joking around that since everyone misses Ashley. We want a new helmet for shep.   A beer helmet. So he can drink on missions and wont have to go to the bar.

Nice idea... He save a lot time of this

It would save time. I noticed my Shep drinks a lot in the game. He misses Ash. So he should be able to take the alchohol with him.

My Shep too, but only when he wants to relax.

[Funkcase]

New page, Ash hugs



Whats with this talk of beer N7 helmets? lol.

[Funkcase]

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

This is what i am afraid of for ME3 that we are gonna be screwed.

[Kabraxal]

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

If this thread starts getting cynical and the black cloud of despair glides in... I will start smacking people until they get their heads on straight!

Ash will be in ME3!  She will tackle hug my Shepard in apologetic tears and beg forgiveness... to which Chris would naturally play hard to get and force the lovely Ash to do long nights of... penance...

[LakeshowAD1986]

Funkcase wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

This is what i am afraid of for ME3 that we are gonna be screwed.

What reassures me is that I believe ME3 will largely be the relationships and the decisions you've made in the first two games coming together; including Ashley Williams

[Goat_Shepard]

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

All I hear from the devs is "consequences from cheating on your ME1!" so Liara and Ashley/Kaiden are gunna get their dues. And how much do your squaddies actually say? After playing DA:O I feel like the character development in ME2 was weak (conversation wise). I myself wonder what Bioware is doing for those ppl like me who have an ME2 import ready in which only Tali and Garrus survived. It's just me and my skepticism but I think the NPC's will have very little to say other than your LI's.
I hope I'm wrong.

Also, just wanna say I support Ashley Williams. I don't love or hate her, I LOVE to hate her  Cuz she makes Kaiden seem a little dull.

[Funkcase]

LakeshowAD1986 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

This is what i am afraid of for ME3 that we are gonna be screwed.

What reassures me is that I believe ME3 will largely be the relationships and the decisions you've made in the first two games coming together; including Ashley Williams

Yeah that what i hope, but after how most ME1 choices didnt seem to matter much in ME2 makes me think they might do the same in ME3. I hope she is a big part of ME3 though and a squadmate, hopefully what they said about there role not being in ME2 so they would survive into ME3 is true.

[LakeshowAD1986]

I thought that ME2 was just a different story and was hard to see the concequences of your actions since their is still another game to go. Plus devs have said that LI's play a big role in the 3rd game and that cheating will have concequences. My first playthough was faithful, however needed the Paramour achievement in my second playthrough. It felt wrong LOL.



IMO, the relationship scene was no where close to ME's scene. I mean, with Ash, you can talk before, and the mood set was PERFECT! Afterwards you can talk aswell; "I've got other wepons to check out"



I was only with Miranda but, it was disapointing. Maybe it's different with everyone else on the ship.

[Goat_Shepard]

LakeshowAD1986 wrote...

I thought that ME2 was just a different story and was hard to see the concequences of your actions since their is still another game to go. Plus devs have said that LI's play a big role in the 3rd game and that cheating will have concequences. My first playthough was faithful, however needed the Paramour achievement in my second playthrough. It felt wrong LOL.

IMO, the relationship scene was no where close to ME's scene. I mean, with Ash, you can talk before, and the mood set was PERFECT! Afterwards you can talk aswell; "I've got other wepons to check out"

I was only with Miranda but, it was disapointing. Maybe it's different with everyone else on the ship.

Felt kinda cheap that it was the same body just blue skin  in ME2 they were all different and some were more like plays rather than love scenes. The Thane scene was like poetry.

[DarkSoldier5501]

God miranda owns Ashley. she needed to get her hair out of the stupid bun tho

[LakeshowAD1986]

I appreciate what they done, I just thought it was a more impactful scene in the 1st than Miranda's in the 2nd game. The idea was there in the first game, I guess it was resources and time that may have prevented anything unique.



Like I said, haven't seen the others though.

[LakeshowAD1986]

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Modifié par LakeshowAD1986, 02 mars 2010 - 12:56 .

[Spectre_Shepard]

LiamN7 wrote...

Question. Any one here think bioware cant make a major part for Ashley because they cant waste the time on a character that not everybody has?
You know ,to much time and money on animation, Voice acting, scripting, ect. this would go for Kaiden also. Anyone think they cant or wont waste time or money?

my biggest fear for ME3.

the story, action, and ending are all guaranteed to be epic. the utilization of individual characters isnt.

But, I think Bioware is willing to make the investment. If you look at Dragon Age, you can easily kill off/send away characters right as you meet them without ever recruiting them and getting to all that other stuff, and yet it was still included. I hope the same is done for Ashley and Kaidan: make each of them full characters, and dont let the fact that one or the other isnt around stand in your way.

I mean, it really shouldnt be that hard. Time consuming, yes, but not terribly difficult. Come on Bioware! Give Ashley (and Kaidan) her due!

[Funkcase]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

LakeshowAD1986 wrote...

I thought that ME2 was just a different story and was hard to see the concequences of your actions since their is still another game to go. Plus devs have said that LI's play a big role in the 3rd game and that cheating will have concequences. My first playthough was faithful, however needed the Paramour achievement in my second playthrough. It felt wrong LOL.

IMO, the relationship scene was no where close to ME's scene. I mean, with Ash, you can talk before, and the mood set was PERFECT! Afterwards you can talk aswell; "I've got other wepons to check out"

I was only with Miranda but, it was disapointing. Maybe it's different with everyone else on the ship.

Felt kinda cheap that it was the same body just blue skin  in ME2 they were all different and some were more like plays rather than love scenes. The Thane scene was like poetry.

There where more options in the second game, but the love scene's felt better and more real in the first in my oppinion, they should have made a different one for each LI though and not the exact same thing.

Modifié par Funkcase, 02 mars 2010 - 01:07 .

[Goat_Shepard]

DarkSoldier5501 wrote...

God miranda owns Ashley. she needed to get her hair out of the stupid bun tho

Depends on your taste. Some like chicks that are "out there" and let's admit everyone finds them appealing in that way. I've seen so much stripperific women in real life and in games that based on my sig you'd know I've come to appreciate the subtle attractiveness of people like Ashley and Tali and Kelly.

You should be more specific. Miranda owns Ashley in fashion, but Ashley kills her with her AR. Sounds like Ashley's the long-term choice. 

[Goat_Shepard]

LiamN7 wrote...

Guess I will get to my point. Some say they cant Have major roles for character that some people never will have in game. Major waste.
I am not saying what they will or wont do. Just what bioware has and can do.
I will make this as spoiler free as possible. Most of you will know what I am talking about. Just for those that don't.
I am talking on PM to someone playing a recent bioware title let say. Their first time. Because of thinking they should do things a certain way. Missed two major party members. One a LI potential. No chance of fixing this. They are gone. All the party banter, all the conversations, animations, voice work, never to be seen in this play.
I know you all know the game. I don't want to spoil.
If bioware has done that in that game, And there is more you can miss in it. The could do it for Mass Effect. I'm not saying they will, but they CAN.

Sooo Bioware is renowned for making thousands of sidequests and Character-Biography-Based missions that could be missed by so many. This means they know what they're doing and we shouldn't worry about anything except what we should expect from the past. So no single NPC will really have "depth", you would say?
Man how did they do DA:O...such great character development.