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[Badpie]

MattD47 wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...

What bugged me the most about ME2 was the intro. I thought it would have been nice to have a small cutscene on the original Normandy before the attack showing a love scene between Shepard and your LI.

A small part of me wants to believe there will be a prequel DLC bridging the gap between ME1 and ME2 but I know I sound insane.

I really don't think Shep and Ash had too much time together between ME1 and the intro to ME2: Ash's email talks about "their night" as if they only had that one night together.

(Which as I've written before -- about 20 pages back in this thread, good to see it still going strong! -- is one of the reasons that both of their reactions on Horizon make sense to me, with their uncertainty and awkwardness.  Neither is quite sure where the other one stands, whether the other feels as they do.  While Bioware obviously doesn't give Shepard the option, it's still to Ash's credit that she's the one who swiftly makes the first move to start making things right between them, by sending the email.)

My take on it is this.  Their relationship built over the months that occured in ME1.  Before they even slept together they expressed that they were special to each other.  Then the night before Ilos happened.  After that, for the month that they were back on the Normandy hunting Geth I imagine they took a step back.  After all, things were back to normal.  They didn't spend the night together again because it would have looked bad, but I don't doubt that their relationship continued to progress as much as it could in that time period.  By the time the Normandy was attacked I think their feelings for each other were very clear to them.

The reactions on Horizon do make sense, but I think it was simply that neither one of them knew how to handle the situation.  They both kind of got punched in the gut when they saw each other.  Ash didn't know how to speak to him because her perception of him had changed and Shepard didn't know how to handle it because it had been two years and he had no idea where her head was.   They both handled it really clumsily.

As for the email, I just figured Shepard didn't know what to say in response.  He could have emailed her back and said he loved her but then what happens when he dies AGAIN?  He wouldn't do that to her.  And anything less than expressing how he really felt wouldn't be enough.  So for my Shepard he just figured he would get through this mission (hopefully) and deal with it after.

[EhNam13]

DarthRic wrote...

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

RAMBO 46 wrote...

love ashley

starting to creep me out man....

Ashley's great, but lets not go down the road of the Talimancers.

Ash simply wouldnt approve

This ^

Vote for ASH for the better LI in ME2 or ME2
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[Spectre_Shepard]

Badpie wrote...

MattD47 wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...

What bugged me the most about ME2 was the intro. I thought it would have been nice to have a small cutscene on the original Normandy before the attack showing a love scene between Shepard and your LI.

A small part of me wants to believe there will be a prequel DLC bridging the gap between ME1 and ME2 but I know I sound insane.

I really don't think Shep and Ash had too much time together between ME1 and the intro to ME2: Ash's email talks about "their night" as if they only had that one night together.

(Which as I've written before -- about 20 pages back in this thread, good to see it still going strong! -- is one of the reasons that both of their reactions on Horizon make sense to me, with their uncertainty and awkwardness.  Neither is quite sure where the other one stands, whether the other feels as they do.  While Bioware obviously doesn't give Shepard the option, it's still to Ash's credit that she's the one who swiftly makes the first move to start making things right between them, by sending the email.)

My take on it is this.  Their relationship built over the months that occured in ME1.  Before they even slept together they expressed that they were special to each other.  Then the night before Ilos happened.  After that, for the month that they were back on the Normandy hunting Geth I imagine they took a step back.  After all, things were back to normal.  They didn't spend the night together again because it would have looked bad, but I don't doubt that their relationship continued to progress as much as it could in that time period.  By the time the Normandy was attacked I think their feelings for each other were very clear to them.

The reactions on Horizon do make sense, but I think it was simply that neither one of them knew how to handle the situation.  They both kind of got punched in the gut when they saw each other.  Ash didn't know how to speak to him because her perception of him had changed and Shepard didn't know how to handle it because it had been two years and he had no idea where her head was.   They both handled it really clumsily.

As for the email, I just figured Shepard didn't know what to say in response.  He could have emailed her back and said he loved her but then what happens when he dies AGAIN?  He wouldn't do that to her.  And anything less than expressing how he really felt wouldn't be enough.  So for my Shepard he just figured he would get through this mission (hopefully) and deal with it after.

yeah, a lot of people dont seem to get the time scale that ME1 occurred over. You were chasing Saren for months in game, not the thirty or so hours it took to beat the game, and afterwards theres another whole month that passes before the collector attack. Thats a plenty of time for a relationship to develop, and Bioware clearly didnt want the night before Ilos to be interpreted as a one night stand for any of the LIs. 

[Spectre_Shepard]

Knightfly wrote...

page needs and Ashley picture

[MattD47]

Badpie wrote...

MattD47 wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...

What bugged me the most about ME2 was the intro. I thought it would have been nice to have a small cutscene on the original Normandy before the attack showing a love scene between Shepard and your LI.

A small part of me wants to believe there will be a prequel DLC bridging the gap between ME1 and ME2 but I know I sound insane.

I really don't think Shep and Ash had too much time together between ME1 and the intro to ME2: Ash's email talks about "their night" as if they only had that one night together.

(Which as I've written before -- about 20 pages back in this thread, good to see it still going strong! -- is one of the reasons that both of their reactions on Horizon make sense to me, with their uncertainty and awkwardness.  Neither is quite sure where the other one stands, whether the other feels as they do.  While Bioware obviously doesn't give Shepard the option, it's still to Ash's credit that she's the one who swiftly makes the first move to start making things right between them, by sending the email.)

My take on it is this.  Their relationship built over the months that occured in ME1.  Before they even slept together they expressed that they were special to each other.  Then the night before Ilos happened.  After that, for the month that they were back on the Normandy hunting Geth I imagine they took a step back.  After all, things were back to normal.  They didn't spend the night together again because it would have looked bad, but I don't doubt that their relationship continued to progress as much as it could in that time period.  By the time the Normandy was attacked I think their feelings for each other were very clear to them.

The reactions on Horizon do make sense, but I think it was simply that neither one of them knew how to handle the situation.  They both kind of got punched in the gut when they saw each other.  Ash didn't know how to speak to him because her perception of him had changed and Shepard didn't know how to handle it because it had been two years and he had no idea where her head was.   They both handled it really clumsily.

As for the email, I just figured Shepard didn't know what to say in response.  He could have emailed her back and said he loved her but then what happens when he dies AGAIN?  He wouldn't do that to her.  And anything less than expressing how he really felt wouldn't be enough.  So for my Shepard he just figured he would get through this mission (hopefully) and deal with it after.

I can definitely see all that, it all sounds plausible.  In "my" version of the ME universe, I was imagining that Shep probably spent a lot of time following ME1 being debriefed by the Council and C-Sec, while Ashley was probably whisked away for similar debriefing by the Alliance.  Both probably had to spend time with family visits, too.  (And I'm sure Shep at least had all sorts of media interviews and appearances.)  So I was imagining it might have been a while before they could spend time together, not hounded by the media -- I was thinking it might take a few weeks until they were back aboard the Normandy.  And then yes, just as you say, there are issues of rank and romance, it looking bad to do anything too obvious, etc.

Although, I can also imagine that while both of them might be secure in their own feelings -- the looks they share in the ME2 prelude show that -- they might also be a little insecure about the other following ME1, wondering if the stress of the mission made them go too far too fast, Ash wondering if Shep being a big intergalactic hero -- a "god" -- would impact how he saw her, etc.

I do think you're entirely correct about the email; I wanted my Shep to respond in some way, but now that you bring it up, I can't think what he would say.

[DigitalMaster37]

I don't know if this was mentioned, but how many want to see Ashley with her hair down. I just keep trying to imagine how even more beautiful she'll look with it down. Am I the only one?

[Striker1246]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I don't know if this was mentioned, but how many want to see Ashley with her hair down. I just keep trying to imagine how even more beautiful she'll look with it down. Am I the only one?

agree!!!

[DigitalMaster37]

bump

[nilamu]

Yeah about the email conversation. I don't think there really would have been a good thing to say before the mission. She says she can't lose you again so telling her that you are going on a "suicide" mission would not go over well I think.

[Spectre_Shepard]

nilamu wrote...

Yeah about the email conversation. I don't think there really would have been a good thing to say before the mission. She says she can't lose you again so telling her that you are going on a "suicide" mission would not go over well I think.

still.... ANYTHING would have been better than Hi Ash, its been too long.

[Razorsedge820]

By the way I wonder if Anderson is in on the Shepard and Ashley thing. When I talked to Anderson on the citadel before and after Horizon I got the feeling he knew something. I have no problem with it since Anderson is my main squeeze but will feel very uncomfortable if starts asking questions like "Hows about the 3 of us go out to dinner, on me. Then maybe afterwards we can head over to my place....just the three of us."

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 10 février 2010 - 10:50 .

[nilamu]

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

nilamu wrote...

Yeah about the email conversation. I don't think there really would have been a good thing to say before the mission. She says she can't lose you again so telling her that you are going on a "suicide" mission would not go over well I think.

still.... ANYTHING would have been better than Hi Ash, its been too long.

Yeah, i agree that shepards dialoug(sp?) was weak on Horizon. The whole "How you doin Ash!" As if nothing happened kind of bugged me. Especially after the long heart felt hug.

[SharpEdgeSoda]

nilamu wrote...

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

nilamu wrote...

Yeah about the email conversation. I don't think there really would have been a good thing to say before the mission. She says she can't lose you again so telling her that you are going on a "suicide" mission would not go over well I think.

still.... ANYTHING would have been better than Hi Ash, its been too long.

Yeah, i agree that shepards dialoug(sp?) was weak on Horizon. The whole "How you doin Ash!" As if nothing happened kind of bugged me. Especially after the long heart felt hug.

Then why did you pick it? Because it was in the top right? The middle option seem far more...emotional.

Shepard can pick up her angry vibes during a hug, that's dedication.

[Spectre_Shepard]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

By the way I wonder if Anderson is in on the Shepard and Ashley thing. When I talked to Anderson on the citadel before and after Horizon I got the feeling he knew something. I have no problem with it since Anderson is my main squeeze but will feel very uncomfortable if starts asking questions like "Hows about the 3 of us go out to dinner, on me. Then maybe afterwards we can head over to my place....just the three of us."

that would be.... awkward

[FunkyFreshKilla]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I don't know if this was mentioned, but how many want to see Ashley with her hair down. I just keep trying to imagine how even more beautiful she'll look with it down. Am I the only one?

Agreed.

[Starbuck07]

Very fast work (few minutes), sorry about that... I was curious to see Ash with Miranda's hair.

[jason9880]

RAMBO 46 wrote...

love ashley

We know, and don't ever stop.

[FAMEKES313]

Starbuck07 wrote...



Very fast work (few minutes), sorry about that... I was curious to see Ash with Miranda's hair.

looks good, though I imagine that she would have longer hair than that, but its awesome

[nilamu]

I think the hair works well on Ashley. I almost have a hard time seeing her with her hair down because she has had her hair in that bun for so long.

[Knightfly]

if she still has it in a bun while love making I don't think she'll ever let it down lol

I would love to see what it looks like down though just out of curiousity

Modifié par Knightfly, 11 février 2010 - 01:58 .

[Bob3terd]

Na not gunna see her with the hair down its like tali and the mask

[Badpie]

Bob3terd wrote...

Na not gunna see her with the hair down its like tali and the mask

NOOOOOOOO!!!