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#1826
Doug84

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Hepzi3 wrote...

Doug, i read Chapter 2 of youre fanfic.

Its EXCELLENT. Like DAMN, Good.


Thanks :D And I do have another Ashley story I'm planning on; should be pretty long, so it might end up being a 3 parter. Though I've a short story I'm gonna try and write today about something else.

Btw, how's your own work? Got that chapter up yet? :D

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Ashley is a xenophobic ho bag.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Ashley is a xenophobic ho bag.


Dunno why your posting in the Ashley Williams support thread in that case Posted ImagePosted Image 

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Funkcase wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Ashley is a xenophobic ho bag.


Dunno why your posting in the Ashley Williams support thread in that case Posted ImagePosted Image 


Hush, his posts still count towards the thread size :D

#1830
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Actually, I've just thought of what Ashley 'Almost' did in that conversation with Shepard we were talking about a few pages ago - again, I don't think it was almost killed herself - I think she almost stopped believing in God. Which, to her, would be a BIG thing, after all.

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Doug84 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of what Ashley 'Almost' did in that conversation with Shepard we were talking about a few pages ago - again, I don't think it was almost killed herself - I think she almost stopped believing in God. Which, to her, would be a BIG thing, after all.


Never thought of that, although it could also be that she almost moved on and forgave herself for Shep dying (she seems to always blame herself for everything, even if it aint her fault at all) Although i doubt Bioware will add anything to it lol.

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On horizon when she says "I almost" i tend to think its more along the lines of quitting the alliance. As to suicide people say its out of character, but ash is like a gobstopper hard on the outside gooey in the middle its a good blend, and in the end she stuck it out and survived thats in character. Simply saying she wouldnt contemplate it would either make her out to the a 2d character or relatively unfeeling. After all if the love of your life died on you are you seriously saying at no point wouldnt you consider suicide at all? The fact she went through it all and perceived stays more true to her strong character than just simply not having an emotional reaction to it.

offtopic god this thread moves fast every time i check there are at least 3 new pages :P

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Funkcase wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of what Ashley 'Almost' did in that conversation with Shepard we were talking about a few pages ago - again, I don't think it was almost killed herself - I think she almost stopped believing in God. Which, to her, would be a BIG thing, after all.


Never thought of that, although it could also be that she almost moved on and forgave herself for Shep dying (she seems to always blame herself for everything, even if it aint her fault at all) Although i doubt Bioware will add anything to it lol.


Indeedie. I think she probably would have had a crisis of faith by that point - I mean, she lost her squad on Eden Prime, Kaiden on Vimirie, and then Shepard. It would be pretty hard to keep your faith in God when that happens inside of 2 months, heh.

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Bob3terd wrote...

On horizon when she says "I almost" i tend to think its more along the lines of quitting the alliance. As to suicide people say its out of character, but ash is like a gobstopper hard on the outside gooey in the middle its a good blend, and in the end she stuck it out and survived thats in character. Simply saying she wouldnt contemplate it would either make her out to the a 2d character or relatively unfeeling. After all if the love of your life died on you are you seriously saying at no point wouldnt you consider suicide at all? The fact she went through it all and perceived stays more true to her strong character than just simply not having an emotional reaction to it.

offtopic god this thread moves fast every time i check there are at least 3 new pages :P


Well... true I suppose. I just guess she never seemed the type to consider giving up like that. But its understandable. Though if she just considered it, I don't think that would qualify an 'almost' - having the razor in your hand and against your wrist, or the pistol pressed to your head is an 'almost'...well, from how I see it anyways. I'm fortunate enough not to have dealt with suicidual people, so I admit I'm hardly an expert.

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Contributing to the post count and Ashley love! :wub:

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Aviena wrote...

Contributing to the post count and Ashley love! :wub:


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Funkcase wrote...

Aviena wrote...

Contributing to the post count and Ashley love! :wub:


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ASHLEY HUGS ALL AROUND!

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Well im off out, keep spreading the Ashley love!

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Well im off out, keep spreading the Ashley love!

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Okay this is my favorite thing today.  Haha!

I'm on the road so I've been behind.

SO.  Thanks all for reading my fics.  I'll try to read yours as soon as I get back.

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Ewww...spiffy.  Where'd she get that armor from. 


And @ xenophobic ho bag commentor...Ehem

Ash is not racist.  And Ash is not a ho bag.  Allow me to systematically dismantle the most common evidentary points for Ash being a racist.

Point one: " Ash doesn't want aliens in the vital parts of the ship."
Counterpoint:
Would you like Russians at NORAD? Perchance North Koreans hanging out
on the Ronald Reagan? It's a security issue. She's a marine. It's a
logical concern.  Let me tell you right now, if I'm on duty and someone the exact same race, sex, creed, and nationality as me walks up and asks for access to a secret part of a building without credentials, I'm gonna tell him no and probably put in a call to PMO.

Point two: "The bear comment."
Counterpoint:
I know, human syntax is hard to get a hold of but it's pretty obvious
she was voicing her worries that the council will sic humanity on the
bear. She WASN'T saying, "Hey Shep, let's send the aliens to their
doom."

Point three: "Sometimes she's the one to put Wrex down."
Counterpoint:
You ordered her to be ready to do that and we all know their health
goes back up to half or more as soon as they hit the ground. So you
don't want your people following your orders?  That's an interesting leadership trial
Besides, she's concerned for her commander/boyfriend.

Point four: "I can't tell the animals from the aliens."
Counterpoint:
Yeah, let me be the first to admit if I was wondering around and ran
into a big floating jellyfish, I'd probably think he was an escapee
from a local aquarium exhibit. I guess I'm racist now.  Humans have only been galactic citizens for what 26 years now and Ash has mostly been groundside?  Think about how many species there must be in that Universe, besides the ones they've shown us. 

And in closing I have my most powerful point yet....

*rasberry*:P

Modifié par chem light, 20 février 2010 - 02:35 .


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Da Shadow Master wrote...

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I just came across this pic of Ashley.I don't know if any of you have seen it, but I thought it was cool. Posted Image


LOL I like this pic she is going to be doing that in one of my playthroughs unfortunately lol

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chem light wrote...
*rasberry*[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]


RASPBERRIES!


chem light wrote...
And @ xenophobic ho bag commentor...Ehem

Ash is not racist.  And Ash is not a ho bag.  Allow me to systematically dismantle the most common evidentary points for Ash being a racist.

Point one: " Ash doesn't want aliens in the vital parts of the ship."
Counterpoint:
Would you like Russians at NORAD? Perchance North Koreans hanging out
on the Ronald Reagan? It's a security issue. She's a marine. It's a
logical concern.  Let me tell you right now, if I'm on duty and someone the exact same race, sex, creed, and nationality as me walks up and asks for access to a secret part of a building without credentials, I'm gonna tell him no and probably put in a call to PMO.

Point two: "The bear comment."
Counterpoint:
I know, human syntax is hard to get a hold of but it's pretty obvious
she was voicing her worries that the council will sic humanity on the
bear. She WASN'T saying, "Hey Shep, let's send the aliens to their
doom."

Point three: "Sometimes she's the one to put Wrex down."
Counterpoint:
You ordered her to be ready to do that and we all know their health
goes back up to half or more as soon as they hit the ground. So you
don't want your people following your orders?  That's an interesting leadership trial
Besides, she's concerned for her commander/boyfriend.

Point four: "I can't tell the animals from the aliens."
Counterpoint:
Yeah, let me be the first to admit if I was wondering around and ran
into a big floating jellyfish, I'd probably think he was an escapee
from a local aquarium exhibit. I guess I'm racist now.  Humans have only been galactic citizens for what 26 years now and Ash has mostly been groundside?  Think about how many species there must be in that Universe, besides the ones they've shown us. 


Awesome! I have to admit, I've always thought of her as a little bit xenophobic, but your points ring true!

I suspect its because most of us lot on the forums and/or fans of the game are naturally fans of Sci-fi and hence tend towards xenophilia rather than xenophobia. Hence, she seems xenophobic to us because shes not as instantly comfortable with the aliens as we feel.

Anywho, a copy of that should go on the front page.

Modifié par Doug84, 20 février 2010 - 04:04 .


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another awesome photo. nice

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Doug84 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of what Ashley 'Almost' did in that conversation with Shepard we were talking about a few pages ago - again, I don't think it was almost killed herself - I think she almost stopped believing in God. Which, to her, would be a BIG thing, after all.


after thinking about it, this does seem very likely. good point. I can definitely see how this might have happened, although she does mention praying for Shepard in her email.

the point about her almost leaving the alliance is also a good idea. at some point, losing all your friends has got to wear on you.

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Spectre_Shepard wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of what Ashley 'Almost' did in that conversation with Shepard we were talking about a few pages ago - again, I don't think it was almost killed herself - I think she almost stopped believing in God. Which, to her, would be a BIG thing, after all.


after thinking about it, this does seem very likely. good point. I can definitely see how this might have happened, although she does mention praying for Shepard in her email.

the point about her almost leaving the alliance is also a good idea. at some point, losing all your friends has got to wear on you.


Well, yeah, I think Shepard not being dead would be enough to ensure that she keep on believing. But she said 'almost', so even so, she believed in god, if I'm right.

And quitting the Alliance is possibly what she mean - after all, everyone she's lost was because of the Alliance, who have her family blacklisted as is. Though I think the fact that she is a marine through and through is why she wouldn't commit to that.

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I love reading everyone's comments on the " I almost " topic.

There are so many possibilities. Just about any of them could fit.To those that say Ash wouldn't / couldn't try to end her own life. The word almost in this case to me at least could be,

I seriously thought about it, but didn't do it, to, I tried to do it but, survived. If it turns out that this is what Ash meant. I would go with the thought about it but didn't do it.

I'm not thinking that I am right at all.I have no real idea. Bioware might have thrown it in just to make us think. When I first heard that line it was like a punch in the gut to me. Don't know why. I had to pause the game to think, and it just keeps spinning around the vast empty place in my skull.

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Just stopping by to show my support for Ash. Hated to have to choose between her and Kaidan on Virmire just because I thought the relationship between Ash, Shep, and Kaidan was so good. Not fun breaking up a team like that...anyway it's good to see your thread still growing.

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

Just stopping by to show my support for Ash. Hated to have to choose between her and Kaidan on Virmire just because I thought the relationship between Ash, Shep, and Kaidan was so good. Not fun breaking up a team like that...anyway it's good to see your thread still growing.


Thanks for stopping by to lend aid! And I suppose thats why alot of people liked ME1 - it maked you make a difficult choice (I mean, it wasn't difficult for me, but still).