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#20026
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ForteSJGR wrote...

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Go on....

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Much like an earlier commenter I succumbed to Tali, but will have a loyal Ash playthrough as well. This has probably been discussed somewhere in these 800+ pages, but can someone explain to me all the comments I see that Ash is a "bi***" and "can't stand her mouth". After multiple playthroughs of both games the only thing that would support this is the schizophrenic meeting with Shepard on Horizon (You're a god, no wait you're a traitor) and I really blame that on her shock at running into the supposedly dead Shepard face to face and poor reunion scripting by Bioware. Miranda is much more bi***y until you do her loyalty mission, but I never read those comments about her (except the ones I posted). I don't see her xenophobia falling into this category as this is more of a character flaw that you can see her grow out of, making her much more interesting as a character. It is also understandable given her grandfather's history and previous lack of exposure to aliens.

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Hey all. Thanks for the support reluctant. : )

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I think those arguments can best be summed up like this:


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Really. When I came onto the forums I was amazed at all the Ash hate, and the inexplicable reasons for it.

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Hello everyone! *waves*

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^^^Agreed. Most of the Ash hate is just blind ignorance. I will be 100% honest, I havent met a person who hated her who had a legit arguement, and almost anyone who got to know her actually likes her. All the hate around her is ignorance.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I really am confused by the Ash hate I see. She is a much more complex and interesting character than many other options and expresses a genuine commitment to Shepard that she herself is confused about in ME2. There are plot hooks that can be used very well in ME3, in particular her desire to martyr herself to redeem her family and her religious viewpoint and how it may conflict with the existence of the Reapers. The fact the Bioware shafted her in ME2 is no reason to reject the character given how interesting she could be in ME3. Hopefully she will get better treatment and I certainly support her as a squadmate and LI in ME3.

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Hey pyro!

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Hey Pyro. I havent gotten my KOTOR fix yet. : (

They didnt have it at Gamestop.

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That's funny. I am playing ME1 again and my wife (who plays Dragon Age) just looked up during a conversation I was having with Ash and asked "Why would anyone pick Miranda over Ashley?".

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Well, that seems like an odd thing to ask, if she mainly plays Dragon Age.

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ReluctantMind wrote...

Much like an earlier commenter I succumbed to Tali, but will have a loyal Ash playthrough as well. This has probably been discussed somewhere in these 800+ pages, but can someone explain to me all the comments I see that Ash is a "bi***" and "can't stand her mouth". After multiple playthroughs of both games the only thing that would support this is the schizophrenic meeting with Shepard on Horizon (You're a god, no wait you're a traitor) and I really blame that on her shock at running into the supposedly dead Shepard face to face and poor reunion scripting by Bioware. Miranda is much more bi***y until you do her loyalty mission, but I never read those comments about her (except the ones I posted). I don't see her xenophobia falling into this category as this is more of a character flaw that you can see her grow out of, making her much more interesting as a character. It is also understandable given her grandfather's history and previous lack of exposure to aliens.

The reason people hate her comes down to ignorance, I believe. She doesn't hate aliens she distrusts them, a completely reasonable mindset when you can't even truly trust most other humans! They also dislike her because of her not joining Shepard on Horizon, they seem to forget she is military and thus can't go gallavanting about the galaxy whenever she chooses. If she left she would be accused of deserting.

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She'll almost definitely be an LI in ME3. I dunno, I think a lot of the Ash hate is because some players couldn't stop her from killing wrex. And some is becauce the forums give a skewed view, a lot of people on the forums don't like her because of her, very vaguely expressed, religious views.

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XtremegamerHK47 wrote...

Hey Pyro. I havent gotten my KOTOR fix yet. : (
They didnt have it at Gamestop.

Amazon.com is your friend. Seriously, it's super cheap over there.

#20042
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She has hung out with me and watched me play the ME games (which are quite cinematic) and played a bit of ME herself. She just prefers Dragon Age and has played that all the way through twice. I also ramble on about stuff from ME and she is very patient with listening to me. I have a great wife.

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My old xbox finally died a few weeks ago, so I can no longer play Kotor 1 or 2 either. I miss them more than I can say. I'll get Kotor 1 from Steam eventually, I'm sure.

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Dominus5412 wrote...

My old xbox finally died a few weeks ago, so I can no longer play Kotor 1 or 2 either. I miss them more than I can say. I'll get Kotor 1 from Steam eventually, I'm sure.

Exactly, get them on computer. There are a ton of mods out for KOTOR on the PC.

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yfhfrg wrote...

She'll almost definitely be an LI in ME3. I dunno, I think a lot of the Ash hate is because some players couldn't stop her from killing wrex. And some is becauce the forums give a skewed view, a lot of people on the forums don't like her because of her, very vaguely expressed, religious views.

Almost defiantly?  What the hell kind of attitude is that?
And I agree with everything you said, most people cant comprehend a character with depth, so they go to the character who they can easily understand, and bang (Miranda).

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I wish the onyx armor stats weren't completely terrible. I'd wear it more often.

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XtremegamerHK47 wrote...

Almost defiantly?  What the hell kind of attitude is that?


I dunno. I'm confused. <_< 100% definitely? Positively absolutely?:wizard:

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

XtremegamerHK47 wrote...

Hey Pyro. I havent gotten my KOTOR fix yet. : (
They didnt have it at Gamestop.

Amazon.com is your friend. Seriously, it's super cheap over there.

Im gonna check Gamestop again tomorrow, Im in a completly different  state, and different Gamestop, so I might as well check. If they dont have it, I will order it off Amazon, but that sucks considering I cant play it until AFTER Spring break. <_<

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yfhfrg wrote...

XtremegamerHK47 wrote...

Almost defiantly?  What the hell kind of attitude is that?


I dunno. I'm confused. <_< 100% definitely? Positively absolutely?:wizard:

Hey, we got a lot of support here. And if all else fails, we beat Jacob. :P
But seriously, we got a lot of support, more than other LI's, and if these LI's with less fan support join the fray, then we can defiantly count on Ash's return. And if not, then Mass Effect 1 will still remain the best, and I can tell my kids how Bioware started a great series, and turned it to sh*t.