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#20501
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LiamN7 wrote...

Good. It was more about putting a stop to the stupidity that was about to pour out of my head.

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wait a min, since when did we hit 20k posts?

#20503
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DarthRic wrote...

wait a min, since when did we hit 20k posts?

About 30 pages ago.

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She thinks every species will look out for itself first. Humans included. So she doesn't trust.

I don't know if there was anything in ME1 that would have shown here she was wrong.

Individuals she trust I think. Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. But not the groups.

My shep trusts Wrex, but lock him in a room with 4 strange Krogan. He is not so trusting.

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Distrust is not the same as racism. It's perfectly reasonable to distrust something that can crush you like a bug.


True. Plus, as soon as humanity contacted aliens, they were at war with them.

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DarthRic wrote...

wait a min, since when did we hit 20k posts?

I put a Ash hug on the top of page 800. Do I win a prize.

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LiamN7 wrote...

She thinks every species will look out for itself first. Humans included. So she doesn't trust.
I don't know if there was anything in ME1 that would have shown here she was wrong.
Individuals she trust I think. Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. But not the groups.
My shep trusts Wrex, but lock him in a room with 4 strange Krogan. He is not so trusting.

Exactly, it's not unreasonable to distrust. It's unreasonable to hate without reason. The average person on the street will screw you over if it benefits them so it seems logical to extend that to entirely new species!

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LiamN7 wrote...

She thinks every species will look out for itself first. Humans included. So she doesn't trust.
I don't know if there was anything in ME1 that would have shown here she was wrong.
Individuals she trust I think. Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. But not the groups.
My shep trusts Wrex, but lock him in a room with 4 strange Krogan. He is not so trusting.


You just hit the nail on the head with that one. Awesomely awesome point.

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Distrust is not the same as racism. It's perfectly reasonable to distrust something that can crush you like a bug.

Xenophobia is not the same as racism.  Many people get them confused.  I am not calling Ashley a speciesist - just that she is a little xenophobic from lack of exposure and from having a military family (such families tend to be more conservative than non-military families).

Point is she recognizes it and seems to be at least trying to work on it in ME 1.

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

She thinks every species will look out for itself first. Humans included. So she doesn't trust.
I don't know if there was anything in ME1 that would have shown here she was wrong.
Individuals she trust I think. Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. But not the groups.
My shep trusts Wrex, but lock him in a room with 4 strange Krogan. He is not so trusting.

Exactly, it's not unreasonable to distrust. It's unreasonable to hate without reason. The average person on the street will screw you over if it benefits them so it seems logical to extend that to entirely new species!


Its unreasonable to hate without reason.
This statement goes to the heart of  the matter with trolls. Even if you blew every bad thing they say about Ash out of the water they still hate.  I don't expect people to change there minds and join us. But people being reasonable and respectfull shouldn't be to much to ask. For most it isn't. For some impossible.

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Has anyone tried going the renegade route with Ash? I wonder if she reacts differently to the terra firma people if you do.

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Just took some more screenshots :P

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What do you think?

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

She thinks every species will look out for itself first. Humans included. So she doesn't trust.
I don't know if there was anything in ME1 that would have shown here she was wrong.
Individuals she trust I think. Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. But not the groups.
My shep trusts Wrex, but lock him in a room with 4 strange Krogan. He is not so trusting.


You just hit the nail on the head with that one. Awesomely awesome point.


I rarely make an awsesome point. So Awesomely awesome is just, well,.......... Awesome.  :D

Ash is worth it.

Modifié par LiamN7, 10 avril 2010 - 01:01 .


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RazerPhoenix wrote...


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What do you think?


This one would make a good avatar. What missiion are they from?

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LiamN7 wrote...



Its unreasonable to hate without reason.
This statement goes to the heart of  the matter with trolls. Even if you blew every bad thing they say about Ash out of the water they still hate.  I don't expect people to change there minds and join us. But people being reasonable and respectfull shouldn't be to much to ask. For most it isn't. For some impossible.

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yfhfrg wrote...

This one would make a good avatar. What missiion are they from?


Pictures were taken at Zhu's Hope during the misson on Feros.

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uhdnrt wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Distrust is not the same as racism. It's perfectly reasonable to distrust something that can crush you like a bug.

Xenophobia is not the same as racism.  Many people get them confused.  I am not calling Ashley a speciesist - just that she is a little xenophobic from lack of exposure and from having a military family (such families tend to be more conservative than non-military families).

Point is she recognizes it and seems to be at least trying to work on it in ME 1.

Personally, I don't think she  needs to work on it much. Distrust of foreign powers is sound policy.

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RazerPhoenix wrote...

Just took some more screenshots :P

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What do you think?

WOW!Image IPB Very nice!

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...



Its unreasonable to hate without reason.
This statement goes to the heart of  the matter with trolls. Even if you blew every bad thing they say about Ash out of the water they still hate.  I don't expect people to change there minds and join us. But people being reasonable and respectfull shouldn't be to much to ask. For most it isn't. For some impossible.

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I so stole this.

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Distrust is not the same as racism. It's perfectly reasonable to distrust something that can crush you like a bug.

Xenophobia is not the same as racism.  Many people get them confused.  I am not calling Ashley a speciesist - just that she is a little xenophobic from lack of exposure and from having a military family (such families tend to be more conservative than non-military families).

Point is she recognizes it and seems to be at least trying to work on it in ME 1.

Personally, I don't think she  needs to work on it much. Distrust of foreign powers is sound policy.


*fistbump*:police:

#20521
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LiamN7 wrote...


I so stole this.

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Ash gets called names for saying she doesn't trust the council races.

She actually says she Hates politicians. Is there a name for this?

I mean besides, Smart, intelligent, ect,...

#20523
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Lord Zeuss wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Distrust is not the same as racism. It's perfectly reasonable to distrust something that can crush you like a bug.

Xenophobia is not the same as racism.  Many people get them confused.  I am not calling Ashley a speciesist - just that she is a little xenophobic from lack of exposure and from having a military family (such families tend to be more conservative than non-military families).

Point is she recognizes it and seems to be at least trying to work on it in ME 1.

Personally, I don't think she  needs to work on it much. Distrust of foreign powers is sound policy.


*fistbump*:police:

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#20524
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LiamN7 wrote...

Ash gets called names for saying she doesn't trust the council races.
She actually says she Hates politicians. Is there a name for this?
I mean besides, Smart, intelligent, ect,...

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Most intelligent people at  least distrust if not outright hate politicians.

#20525
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LiamN7 wrote...

Ash gets called names for saying she doesn't trust the council races.
She actually says she Hates politicians. Is there a name for this?
I mean besides, Smart, intelligent, ect,...


I think smart and intelligent both work equally well.;)