Bergybud wrote...
From the first game I liked Ashley and Wrex the most. Garrus never did anything for me character wise and was set up to be a bad guy from the start (First Contact War). Tali was cute and interesting and she would go on and on about the fleet and the admiralty board etc. Wrex even said if I want to talk, talk to the Quarian. Liara was just to naive for me. Of course if not for her you would never have found Ilos. Kaiden when I first talked to him I said hmph a guy who gets headaches using his powers. I got Firestarter stuck in my head with him for some reason (burning brain cells to do your thing or the premise went).
Garrus was setup as the bad guy? How? From the moment we meet him, he was trying to nail Saren...?
Bergybud wrote...
The second crew was ok but I could not bond with them like I could in the first one. I think the biggest reason for this was the elevator conversations as well as the occasional banter the squad would have while out and about. It was nice that they brought two of the original crew back but it was basically jump my bones or do not talk to me. I missed Tali's long dialogues in engineering. I missed Garrus and his conflict with his father about c-sec and spectres. You get the idea. Even though I did not particularly like him I still enjoyed the interaction.
I loved the cameo by Wrex because I could see him doing what he is doing. After our talks on the cargo deck I got to know the big guy and realized hey there is more to him than just muscle for hire. I was saddened though that more than likely he will also just be a cameo in ME3.
I agree that the lack of banter between the party members was a sadly missed opportunity, but I disagree that it was a major factor in character likablitiy. It certainly added to the characters, and in my sig is a thread asking for the return of banter (Along with some hilarous ideas for banter).
The conversations I do miss, but we do get a whole mission to each person. We get to see how far Garrus has fallen that he's out for bloody venagance on the man who betrayed him and his men; we get to see Tali on trial, and the sight of her with her father's body; we get to see Wrex on Tuchanka kicking ass from his throne of awesome as he tries to forge the Krogan into a hint of their former status as Galactic saviours.
And we got to see the new characters dealing with issues from their lives, most of which where the defining features of them - Jack with that facility that had made her what she is today; Mordin with the Genophage; Samara with Mornith; Miranda with her sister.
Jacob was about the only one who's story wasn't the defining feature of his life, and thats part of why I don't think he worked - we didn't see what mattered to him and he didn't tell us.
I do not follow the comics nor any of the published books so I can not fathom in any way the abrupt change in Liara. Liara was this lovable naive girl whose mother was helping Saren. She was an expert archeologist and would have been content in that field. How someone please help me here how in the world did she change so much? I have not read any of the fiction published on her so how am I to take this change in character?
Liara had to help shoot her mother, AND lost Shepard in the same month AND as well as learned why the Protheans went extinct (the aim of her research to date) AND learned of a galactic threat that no-one but shepard seemed willing to stop.
And Liara was the most naive of the group to begin with, and hence the most likely to change in the face of a changed life. And she is quite young for Asari - a 'mere' 106
Horizon almost ruined Ash for me but then I thought about it and her reaction (even though carbon copied for Kaiden) made sense. The email nailed it for me with her. I stayed true to her now on two playthroughs (working a third atm). I just hope that our latina bombshell is done the justice she was given in the first installment. I do not want a Liara type character adjustment, I just want my Ash back.
True enough. Alot of people have complained about the horizon thing (and I did too somewhat) and I think its because we are acting too much like it was US she was addressing, not Shepard. I mean, how would you feel if someone you knew was back from the dead and
shortly after told you they were working for the KKK?
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I love Doug's idea of a Spectre going to investigate Shepard, ala Shepard and Saren. Just had to put this out.
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