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[aprilia1k]

BECC4 wrote...

@aprilia, I just got up and have only read this page but I notice you mention trust, I just want you to look at it another way. You spend 2 yrs getting over the love of your life, then BAM, he shows up and tells you he wasn't actually dead. Now regardless of whether or not I trusted him implicitly or not that would surely shake your confidence in him, it would mine and it's not like D&D, resurrection isn't exactly common place. So initially when she's still suprises, a litttle hurt and angry she has doubts about you, do you blame her?! Of course the e-mail which you've not seen shows that she does actually trust you and care for you.

I agree with Pyro play ME1 take some time to consider it from her point of view. I apologise if this has been said before ;-)

There were many well-made points, but I felt like there was a lack of respect for (well, I had a word or two on the subject already - so I assume you've an idea of some of my points - like The LOML should have my back _at least_ as much as, say, Anderson - who _does_ seem to have Shep's back.  That said --- you put it in a very understandable and, well, understanding light.  What you say makes sense.  It's hard to feel other than really disappointed at that outcome (Horiz.), and seriously - the whole "o.k. - that's what ya think of me?  Who needs ya?" -- which I am guessing is somewhat what the character is intended to feel (had enough of this planet)...  yet, yeah - can't argue with your portrayal of events... though he said he was in a coma ---  it was not emphasized... just, one of those conversations where you want to say "Don't go -- wait!   Listen to me!  "  Heh... guess maybe BW were more aware than I thought.  Thanks.

[Errol Dnamyx]

Yana Montana wrote...

Hrhr, nice picture.

[BECC4]

Hmmm Liam is you man for the e-mail I'm on my phone at the min so I can't post it for ya, when I'm on the pc I'll post it or PM it to you if your not about ;-)

[BECC4]

Courtesy of Liam's album, hope you don't mind Liam!

[Ashii6]

Hello there. I'm alone?

[RazerPhoenix]

Ashii6 wrote...

Hello there. I'm alone?

You are not alone! 

Just busy reading what I missed after I left last night, seems they had quite a debate with someone most displeased with Ashleys response on Horizon.

Modifié par RazerPhoenix, 16 avril 2010 - 11:43 .

[Ashii6]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Hello there. I'm alone?

You are not alone! 

Just busy reading what I missed after I left last night, seems they had quite a debate with someone most displeased with Ashleys response on Horizon.

Yay! hi Phoenix 
It
seems that they had an interesting conversation.

[Ashii6]

Hey Liam.



What's up?

[Joisan]

Good morning, Ash fans! I see that lovely e-mail is making the rounds again... still wish to God Bioware had given us something closer to that for Kaidan. Ah well.

[Ashii6]

LiamN7 wrote...

Hope you are doing ok.

I am fine.
It's good to have you back. Ash is worth it.

[Joisan]

LiamN7 wrote...

Morning Joisan.
I was wondering for Kaidan's horizon conversation. Does he say he loved you? I have never heard and I am curious.

Yes, he does.  And I'm sure there are multiple YouTube videos of Kaidan's Horizon conversation making the rounds if you're curious to see the rest.  Really, though, the dialogue is almost identical to Ash's.  Another reason why their cameos sucked.  Could Bioware have at least taken the trouble to make the conversations as different and personalized to the individual LI as the e-mails were?

[Ashii6]

After meeting Ashley on the horizon I hoped that I would see her in the office of Anderson, but unfortunately I was disappointed.

[Bebbe777]

[VutaatVerd]

*Yawn*

Morning Ashley fans, brb getting coffee.

[Joisan]

LiamN7 wrote...

Yes they should have made it more individual for each character. I agree with you.
I can't remember exactly, but I think Ash uses the word betrayed. She makes it personal also.
Paraphrasing :     You betrayed the alliance,   You betrayed me.   Something along those lines I think.
I wonder at this point in the conversation, is she thinking maybe Shep might have been alive all that time. She finds him two years after his death, alive and working with cerberus. Gotta be confusing.

Kaidan uses those words too.  And I think you're right: they are thinking that Shepard never really died.  The part at the beginning, "Why didn't you try to contact me?  Why didn't you let me know you were alive," makes that abundantly clear, and there's no really good option to say, "I did die."  And even if you did... this isn't D&D.  People don't just come back from the dead.

[Ashii6]

Joisan wrote...

.  The part at the beginning, "Why didn't you try to contact me?  Why didn't you let me know you were alive,"

Ashley
said the same thing.

[Joisan]

Ashii6 wrote...

Joisan wrote...

.  The part at the beginning, "Why didn't you try to contact me?  Why didn't you let me know you were alive,"

Ashley
said the same thing.

Precisely my point.  The dialogue is practically the same, maybe a handful of words changed at most.

[RazerPhoenix]

Personally my problem with that scene isn't with anything Ashley says, but the lame responses for Shephard to choose from.



Although don't get me wrong I can understand why in that scene you can't just get Ashley to join you and risk having her killed, clearly Bioware intend to keep Ashley/Kaidan alive for the third game.



Also, something I think people overlook with that scene, given Ashleys religious beliefs, the idea of Shephard coming back from the dead is unlikely to be easily accepted by her,

[Ashii6]

Joisan wrote...

Precisely my point.  The dialogue is practically the same, maybe a handful of words changed at most.

It seems that BioWare doesn't care about it