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aprilia1k wrote...

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Lol, his whole view of ash has drastically changed from where it was last night.
I think, I don't really like the way he types.


My last reply was for a pretty nice person who was far more well-spoken than you.  My "concession" was to her well-supported viewpoint, it was not an agreement that the Ash' dialogue choices were reasonable, really...  it was agreement that she was really overwhelmed and thus not in her right mind.

 I was trying to be respectful and civil.  Clearly you aren't now, here in your house where I was invited to visit.  Have to get personal after all, eh?  I must have been more persuasive than you thought I 'd be (though I know you are about to FLAME me now) ....   this forum is clearly not the place for me to hang of course.   I stand by every point I made, from the first.  I got Ash disciples to agree that Ash was out-of-line on Horizon.    So, how did I drastically change my view?    Hell, you told me several times that you felt EXACTLY as I do...

and nah, I still don't care if she's in ME3 -- I hope that BW just keep bringing new chars on board, despite the over-the-top devotees to expired characters.  Bring on new love interests and old friends, and Ash, Miranda, Tali -- leave 'em in the past I say  :)

And I think you don't like the way I type because it is too much work  to read more than a sentence or two, clearly.  Proceed with the flaming.  I will not concede - but I will get out of your little corner of BW... thanks for the invite, like I said before.  You had to insult my "typing" (you mean my writing style perhaps?  Or do I type too loudly for you?  ;-)



I'm not being rude.

The, way... you - TYPE is (just incredibly) pain~ful_to_read?

aprilia1k wrote...

I think that, through Joker and some
others, and Anderson as well -- we're told that the Alliance basically
dragged Shep's "good name" through the mud during those two years --
I recall that the Alliance said Shepard was "delusional" about the
Reaper threat, etc...    Sorry - I cannot see it as Shepard abandoning
the Alliance.  When he went to talk with Anderson (and the Council),
they would not grant him an audience.  You really think _he_ abandoned
them?   He didn't exactly have "his own ride" when he woke up in the
Lazarus facility, that he could say "seeya, I'm outta here" and fly
away.  Nah -- The Alliance stepped all over a (supposedly) dead hero's
good name.  Anderson was furious with them, and...  some left because of
it (his engineers on Normandy 2)... no - they weren't forced to leave -
don't buy that either, they left because the Alliance was not doing
anything about the threat that Shepard warned them all about.  Even
Anderson questions his decision to stay and become Admiral -- he laments
that he has no control or power, that he may have made a bad choice in
staying even - but he'll keep drumming nonetheless (basically, carrying
Shepard's banner in my opinion).  Sorry -- I guess I get conversational
and thus, wordy.  If spoken, this is not really the diatribe it appears
(just over a minute I think  ;)  just an opinion -- though Shep's
dialogue choices are infuriating at times for their lack of rationale,
and premise support (meaning, he is forced to join Cerbrus in a way --- 
no way to play the game without going along).  Though he does assert,
more than once, that it's Cerbrus that are allied with HIM, and not the
other way around.  The way I play it anyway   Oh - and Shep _does_ try
to find out about Ashley...  too bad he couldn't get Anderson to IM her,
or at least pass her a note .. heh...   :-)
;)


Modifié par epoch_, 16 avril 2010 - 06:56 .


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BECC4 wrote...

Courtesy of Liam's album, hope you don't mind Liam! Image IPB

(letter omitted)



BECC -

I thank you for this.  You're the diplomat here, clearly.  Apologies to you specifically for recent semi-harsh teasing about character devotion and such.  Tongue in cheek really.  Seriously, thanks for re-posting the letter images, I think they should appear regardless of ME1 import, as they bring closure and some enlightenment around a relationship we (Shep) are supposed to understand, but cannot (if we didn't play ME1).   I think we well-buried the proverbial hatchet,  then someone decided to pick it up and start swinging again, and I fell in full-scale (tongue still in cheek ;)

Sorry about the bad typing, heh...

Cheers ;)

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epoch_ wrote...
I'm not being rude.

The, wa'y... you - TYPE is (just incredibly) pain~ful_to_read?


Enlighten me.  Where did I insert an inappropriate apostrophe, as you do here?   Capitilize ridiculously, or insert tilde in the middle of a word?  Or underscores (an old habit for emphasis in plain text days, I admit).

I think you are mad because I beat the hell out of you with clearly constructed argument last night.
You are not going to convince me otherwise, so keep sucking ya bee-ach. 

I AM being _RUDE_ now.

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aprilia1k wrote...

epoch_ wrote...
I'm not being rude.

The, wa'y... you - TYPE is (just incredibly) pain~ful_to_read?

I think you are mad because I beat the hell out of you with clearly constructed argument last night.
You are not going to convince me otherwise, so keep sucking ya bee-ach. 


That would be hard to do seeing as how I haven't read it.

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*Munches popcorn*

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Just don't sit there and tell me

There were many well-made points, but I felt like there was a lack of respect for (well, I had a word or two on the subject already - so I assume you've an idea of some of my points - like The LOML should have my back _at least_ as much as, say, Anderson - who _does_ seem to have Shep's back. That said --- you put it in a very understandable and, well, understanding light. What you say makes sense. It's hard to feel other than really disappointed at that outcome (Horiz.), and seriously - the whole "o.k. - that's what ya think of me? Who needs ya?" -- which I am guessing is somewhat what the character is intended to feel (had enough of this planet)... yet, yeah - can't argue with your portrayal of events... though he said he was in a coma --- it was not emphasized... just, one of those conversations where you want to say "Don't go -- wait! Listen to me! " Heh... guess maybe BW were more aware than I thought. Thanks.


is easy to read writing.

Modifié par epoch_, 16 avril 2010 - 07:06 .


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aprilia1k wrote...

epoch_ wrote...
I'm not being rude.

The, wa'y... you - TYPE is (just incredibly) pain~ful_to_read?


Enlighten me.  Where did I insert an inappropriate apostrophe, as you do here?   Capitilize ridiculously, or insert tilde in the middle of a word?  Or underscores (an old habit for emphasis in plain text days, I admit).

I think you are mad because I beat the hell out of you with clearly constructed argument last night.
You are not going to convince me otherwise, so keep sucking ya bee-ach. 

I AM being _RUDE_ now.


No offence, but for someone who is trying to remain diplomatic in this whole thing, you just blew all credibility with me.

Besides, I find it to be very disconcerting that you are to be so judgemental over the reactions of a character who In retrospect the only interaction with you have had was for a few seconds at the start of the game. At least have the common courtesy to play through the first game and fully understand the character, before you stand and judge them unfairly.

I also would have to agree with epoch_, the methods with which you format your text most certainly do not make easy reading.

Modifié par RazerPhoenix, 16 avril 2010 - 07:24 .


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Wait, he hasn't played the first game?

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epoch_, your name is difficult to read, please change it. :P

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

epoch_, your name is difficult to read, please change it. :P


The underscore gives it all the personality. ^_^

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I'm looking for a 2v2 starcraft 2 partner. Does anyone have the beta and want to play in about an hour?

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requirements: not completely suck.

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epoch_ wrote...

Just don't sit there and tell me


There were many well-made points, but I felt like there was a lack of respect for (well, I had a word or two on the subject already - so I assume you've an idea of some of my points - like The LOML should have my back _at least_ as much as, say, Anderson - who _does_ seem to have Shep's back. That said --- you put it in a very understandable and, well, understanding light. What you say makes sense. It's hard to feel other than really disappointed at that outcome (Horiz.), and seriously - the whole "o.k. - that's what ya think of me? Who needs ya?" -- which I am guessing is somewhat what the character is intended to feel (had enough of this planet)... yet, yeah - can't argue with your portrayal of events... though he said he was in a coma --- it was not emphasized... just, one of those conversations where you want to say "Don't go -- wait! Listen to me! " Heh... guess maybe BW were more aware than I thought. Thanks.


is easy to read writing.


Well - I must admit that this is not a prime example, but in fairness to me, it was done pretty late at night, after hours spent in this chatroom.

Even still, I think it is totally easy to read.  It reads like the spoken word.  I don't adhere gramatically in posts, clearly; I don't think that grammar for the sake of grammer is important in a thread like this.  I could read this aloud, as if from a prompter, and it would be clear as a bell.  I guess I overestimate your ability to process anything other than plain, vanilla wording.  The use of parands, as opposed to "i.e. blah blah" , is an oft-used device.  

If you have trouble reading it, well, I am sorry for that.  My bad for thinking you'd "get it" .  I have a feeling that some others here will read through it as though it were spoken, which was my intent.  I am guessing that you forego lots of colors for, say, just shades of grey.  Perhaps just to keep things more simple for your brain, who knows?

Yep - I am telling you it is EZ-TO-READ.   

Now you take a poll amongst the friendly here and show me how wrong I am.

Modifié par aprilia1k, 16 avril 2010 - 07:24 .


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VutaatVerd wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

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Ashleys looks into thread....

Ashley: "Shephard! Did you record a video of our night!"

Shephard: " Which one of our nights do mean exactly?"


fypB)

haha i really like this picture,it kinda looks like there on a date and ashley see's something she really likes and is like "OOO shepard lets go see the new model of assault rifle with the new heat sink system"and pulls him by the arm.


He better buy her a new Boomstick with plenty of heat sinks.

AMEN skipper.

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What the heck is going on and why is no one talking about me?

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First of all, that's a little better.

Second of all, we aren't in a room together talking. I'm not reading what you type out loud. You actually need to type things out like normal people are used to reading.

Thirdly, why in the world are you throwing petty insults at me? I wasn't insulting you. Most (probably everyone) will agree that the way you were typing was not at all, fun to read.



Again, have you even played Mass Effect 1?

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*giggles* now I have a picture of epoch reading aloud to himself in his room.

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chem light wrote...

*giggles* now I have a picture of epoch reading aloud to himself in his room.


Wait a minute and I'll put my special helmet on too!

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epoch_ wrote...

requirements: not completely suck.


i´m out:blush:

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epoch_ wrote...

chem light wrote...

*giggles* now I have a picture of epoch reading aloud to himself in his room.


Wait a minute and I'll put my special helmet on too!

Just don't try an eat peanut butter again.  DO NOT want to be driving the short bus to the hospital again when you choke.  Did you see my FRAPs picture?  I'm so ridiculously excited about this.  I'm playing through for the first time on PC and I'm getting a little "screen capture" happy.

I'm like, "owww....I wanna get this....and video of this....OH YEAH!  How could I have missed that?  Reload."

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

requirements: not completely suck.


i´m out:blush:


Do you have the beta?

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chem light wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

chem light wrote...

*giggles* now I have a picture of epoch reading aloud to himself in his room.


Wait a minute and I'll put my special helmet on too!

Just don't try an eat peanut butter again.  DO NOT want to be driving the short bus to the hospital again when you choke.  Did you see my FRAPs picture?  I'm so ridiculously excited about this.  I'm playing through for the first time on PC and I'm getting a little "screen capture" happy.

I'm like, "owww....I wanna get this....and video of this....OH YEAH!  How could I have missed that?  Reload."


I might have. Go ahead and post it again. I know exactly how you feel though. I generally just snap the pictures like crazy and then after I'm done playing go back and just find the good ones.

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It's the one on this page. When I was wondering where all the hatred was coming from. You guys are generally so nice and civil over here. It's why you get so many Kai Kai visitors.

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Oh right, you should make an account here
http://imageshack.us/

That way you can upload your images in really high res. The social site resizes everything. Would like to point out I was being civil. I'm not one to get angry at arguments on gaming forums. :P

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epoch_ wrote...

First of all, that's a little better.
Second
of all, we aren't in a room together talking. I'm not reading what you
type out loud. You actually need to type things out like normal people
are used to reading.
Thirdly, why in the world are you throwing
petty insults at me? I wasn't insulting you. Most (probably everyone)
will agree that the way you were typing was not at all, fun to read.

Again, have you even played Mass Effect 1?


Normal people?  heh.  Also, I thought epoch_ was a girl.  Sorry dude.

I'm throwing because I think you are insulting me. I do not need to read something aloud in order to "hear" it in a conversant context (oops. sorry for the extra syllables). Your idea of good style is your own, I imagine.  To me, it reads like Shatner speaks. Short. Little. Sentences. I do not deride you for it. I write, imho, in a flowing (again, imho), brain-dump style.

Perhaps I take for granted that, in a CHAT environ, such as this,  not everyone processes text visually while "hearing" it as conversation, in their heads. I have not received much teasing or criticism for my typing "style" before this thread today. Perhaps I am being overly sensitive, but I believe that there are many who are not impeded by a couple of parands, dashes and underscores.  People who, instead, just "process the text" as written. These are not visual stumbling blocks for everyone. Just for some.

This is my opinion. I would rather my posts (and yours, frankly) read as spoken conversation rather than stilted, stuttering bits of a conversation. Yeah - probably being too sensitive. I said, about ten times at least, that I had not played ME1. I also said that I am not judging the character, but rather the writing. The script. I am sure that the fictional literary creation known as Ashley is really a wonderful person. Really. Does this mean I have abandoned my opinions and principles? Man, I hope not. Perhaps I should just go back to hating her... lol OK - sorry for bothering you good folk. Ciao.

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