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am I the only one who liked Meer's voice in 1 because it was so bad?



Really?



I felt like the PC and besides (though that might be because I roleplay my male shep as being awkward and although he is a good leader a bit shy on the command side.) he got better as the game went along (and worse at moments) and in 2 he's awesome. (Especially renegade.)

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Selvec_Darkon wrote...

The actual answer to this would be to allow choice of voices. Course that would be expensive.

Gotta love how this community though likes to beat on the opinion that differs from their own.

The actual answer to this would be no voice. You cannot expect any developers to provide hundreds of different voices to suit individual tastes.
This is what every community is all about, diversity of opinions. You are not supposed to start a thread and always expect the majority to agree with you.
In any case, I would love to see Jennifer Hale back for Mass Effect 3.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

I love how whenever ther is a strong women who isnt in a chainmail bikini she is always laeled a butch lesbian.

Scared?

cerberus1701 wrote...

That Shep is hot.

This is
just teenage boy and middle-aged man fear of strong women.

They
like them weak and submissive and just a waitin' for da man to tell 'em
what to do.

cerberus1701 wrote...
They Have to look and sound like the
hentai-ish chicks in Dead or Alive before they're considered "real
women" 

They haven't spent 3 months getting Shep's breast physics
just right so she's not really a girl.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

#54
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I liked the female voice acting for female Shepard. I am a forty-year old (41 actually) & I can verify that chain-smokers sound a heck of lot worse than fem Shepard after 20+ years of smoking.



So I disagree. Female Shepard was right on from ME1 through ME2. She should be retained. Male Shepard same. Both have done excellent work.

#55
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Her voice is why I'm playing as the female Shepard on my first run-through. Can't think of any game in the past where I've played the female character over the male.

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Selvec_Darkon wrote...

*Sigh*

The assumption that "Lower voice" and "Japanese School Girl voice" are the only types of female voices in the world is beginning to annoy me. I personally wouldn't have minded something like Morigans voice in DA, or any one of the voice actors used in KOTOR..


Like Bastila's voice actor? Posted Image

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miltos33 wrote...

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

The actual answer to this would be to allow choice of voices. Course that would be expensive.

Gotta love how this community though likes to beat on the opinion that differs from their own.

The actual answer to this would be no voice. You cannot expect any developers to provide hundreds of different voices to suit individual tastes.
This is what every community is all about, diversity of opinions. You are not supposed to start a thread and always expect the majority to agree with you.
In any case, I would love to see Jennifer Hale back for Mass Effect 3.


Actually as the consumer who paid $130NZD for his overpriced Xbox360 game, I can expect that heh.

Modifié par Selvec_Darkon, 05 février 2010 - 05:00 .


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Selvec_Darkon wrote...

Oh hey, being an ass, now that's something new <_<

If Hale did bastila then great, they don't need a new voice actor, just a better voice. I honestly didn't like it in the slightest. I quit my female play through because I couldn't stand it. It was that bad in my opinion, and given some of the replies here, I'd say more then a few people agree with me.

The actual answer to this would be to allow choice of voices. Course that would be expensive.

Gotta love how this community though likes to beat on the opinion that differs from their own.


Look you can not like the voice, that's a purely personal preference.

But it's a very challenging job for any actor. As is any kind of branching dialogue, much more so when you need to be able to put the subtle inflections of many completely contradictory motives behind each to deliver believable wholes.

And Hale did an amazing job in both. The guy behind manshep much better in the second.

Just like there's a few people jumping on and being very judgemental about her voice there's a lot showing their support. You just seem annoyed people are disagreeing with you, I gave a well thought out argument to counter your rather poorly mentioned comments and in return you call me an ass.

I really just have one thing to ask, do you really think it would be feasible to have multiple voiced for each gender of Shephard?

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Love, love Ms Hale's work on both titles. Menacing when threatening, confident when giving orders and playful when flirty.

Good stuff.

SirV

P.S. Considering I play my Shepard from a MASS EFFECT savegame, having another actress voice the role would be jarring as heck. Glad she's back, glad she's damm good at her work.

Modifié par SirVincealot, 05 février 2010 - 05:06 .


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She is pretty good... Jennifer Hale is pretty awesome voice actor probably one of the best in my opinion everybody in this game is great voice actors

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Selvec_Darkon wrote...

miltos33 wrote...

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

The actual answer to this would be to allow choice of voices. Course that would be expensive.

Gotta love how this community though likes to beat on the opinion that differs from their own.

The actual answer to this would be no voice. You cannot expect any developers to provide hundreds of different voices to suit individual tastes.
This is what every community is all about, diversity of opinions. You are not supposed to start a thread and always expect the majority to agree with you.
In any case, I would love to see Jennifer Hale back for Mass Effect 3.


Actually as the consumer who paid $130NZD for his overpriced Xbox360 game, I can expect that heh.


You realise most voice over actors will be getting paid something in that ballpark per minute? I remember doing an amateur thing where we had some promo lines done by George Lowe and we pooled just to get pay him for 30 seconds of work.

A talented voice actor doesn't come cheap.

The wonderful Mr Lowe did end up doing a couple of minutes more than what we paid him for though, man he was a good sport.

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Dr. Impossible wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

I love how whenever ther is a strong women who isnt in a chainmail bikini she is always laeled a butch lesbian.

Scared?

cerberus1701 wrote...

That Shep is hot.

This is
just teenage boy and middle-aged man fear of strong women.

They
like them weak and submissive and just a waitin' for da man to tell 'em
what to do.

cerberus1701 wrote...
They Have to look and sound like the
hentai-ish chicks in Dead or Alive before they're considered "real
women" 

They haven't spent 3 months getting Shep's breast physics
just right so she's not really a girl.

What the hell is wrong with you people?



Is there a point to your question? What exactly do you perceive as "wrong" in my statement?

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

am I the only one who liked Meer's voice in 1 because it was so bad?

Really?



Probably. :) He didn't make me wanna play the game, he made me wanna take a nap.

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cerberus1701 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

am I the only one who liked Meer's voice in 1 because it was so bad?

Really?



Probably. :) He didn't make me wanna play the game, he made me wanna take a nap.


Its probably because of the Narm. I'm so used to JRPGs that I felt right at home. :lol:

Everyone complaing about Meer's voice here: 

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 05 février 2010 - 05:16 .


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Femshep renegade fits nicely. There is just a hint of sarcastic sadism whenever she responds as a renegade. Everything else, the VA seems like she lacks enthusiasm and emotion as if she is reading a script. The male Shepard VA definitely sounds more believable.

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The Hale-Meere dilemma is part of why I can't find myself playing a Male Shephard. Hale's voice fits perfectly, I'm amazed by a lot of posts in this thread.



Meer is good (Captain of the Rayya...) but his take on the character was all wrong for me. He has a lot of soulless lines, even more soulless than Harbinger or Sovereign. "No, you were wonderful", or "Why are you doing this?", or anything intimate...

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There's been a couple of spots where it sounds like they used the male voice due to forgetting to record the female version. But this has only been two or three times and very quick phrases like "after him!"



Other than that I felt the voice actor displayed an outstanding range in filling out all the facets of female Shepard. It's likely, though, that the character was acted out from only one background profile and altered via software or talkbox for the others (which tends to make them sound a bit raspy).

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I just can't play ME1 or ME2 as a male Shepard (and I've tried). Hale does a perfect job and the game just feels so right with a female lead and her vocal talent driving it. Renegade or paragon, it just works. No matter what I do in tinkering male Shepard's looks he still looks like a meathead, and the default chap looks constantly amazed. Meer's vocal work is just too generic and flat when compared to Hale's.

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I agree that the MaleShep's voice makes it hard to get through the whole game. It is so monotonous.



FemShep's voice is much, MUCH better. Perfect, really. It seemed like most everyone felt the same way about ME1 as well.

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flarearrow wrote...

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

*Sigh*

The assumption that "Lower voice" and "Japanese School Girl voice" are the only types of female voices in the world is beginning to annoy me. I personally wouldn't have minded something like Morigans voice in DA, or any one of the voice actors used in KOTOR..


She is the same person who voiced Bastilla in KOTOR...

bastilas face was modled after Hale as well

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 she doesn't sound old or like a smoker, she sounds like a strong woman.  she's perfect, i can't imagine femshep with another voice.

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Personally though Meer and Hale were both bad to me. Then again I picture my FemShep with a softer gentler voice and everytime Hale opens her mouth I can't help but sigh at least with Meer I can laugh at it. (And be amazed when he rarely gets a line downpact.)



This is all personal preference in the end though.

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Yep, FemShep definitely nails the right spots. I played through as a renegade and even then, she didn't sound "butch" or "like a chain smoker". She had a distinctive tough edge, but that is what I was expecting. Now, I am on my 3rd playthrough as a paragon FemShep and she has that compassionate edge.



Really, I think she does a perfect job conveying what Shepard should be conveying.

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Jennifer Hale is amazing, and does top notch work on ME.

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I am really surprised at how many mature calm, comments are in this thread. Usually these devolve into VA bashfests. Hooray for calm, rational conversations.

I love Jennifer Hale's Shep. Meer is ok, but to me, her performance has a great deal more depth. Now as others have mentioned voice acting is a subjective thing, but I can't help but feel that there is a kind of underlying repulsion towards stronger female characters in most cultures that's driving some of the more negative sentiments here. Some of them, not all.

FemShep does not IMO, sound butchy, chain-smokerish, or flat. She sounds very femine, focused, and strong, exactly how I would expect someone in a military command position to sound. I would think for the rank Shep is probably in his/her mid thirties. She (in this case) should not sound like a teenager or very young woman (wasn't bastila like 20 or something?) that is not her character.

Personally speaking I enjoy the FemShep character a great deal. I have played games most of my life (I'm 23) and really appreciate having a strong womanly female lead, especially in an industry (definitely can't blame it on the game industry but that's the industry we are talking about here) where it feels like all the women either need saving every five minutes or have strong personalities but use sex as a weapon. Now of course at this point people will start pulling out other examples of non-objectified female leads. I didn't say there were none, there just aren't a lot of them. especially in Triple A titles like ME. If anyone here remembers/played Beyond Good and Evil (so glad it is finally getting the sequel it deserves) the character of Jade is another good example of the kind of female lead I'd like to see featured in games.

There's nothing wrong with being sexy, but there's also nothing wrong with being intelligent as well. FemShep is a good portrayal of a far more realistic kind of female character IMO. I like the character, the model, and the voice, and think that it is a shame there's not even a tiny bit of room for her in the ME marketing machine.