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blink33

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I personally think it is a bit strange to have sex scenes. These sex scenes are always being debated, some want more and some want less. I know Bioware just wants this game to feel more real, but geez, sex is not on everybody's minds. Also, to all of you that are kidding themselves and saying that this "M" rated game should allow them to have hardcore sex scenes, you're idiots, we all know that 12 year olds and such play these games and why do we want to poison, yes i used poison, their minds further.

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D3thray

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sex = poison?



say it ain't so!

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Marcin K

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blink33 wrote...

I personally think it is a bit strange to have sex scenes. These sex scenes are always being debated, some want more and some want less. I know Bioware just wants this game to feel more real, but geez, sex is not on everybody's minds. Also, to all of you that are kidding themselves and saying that this "M" rated game should allow them to have hardcore sex scenes, you're idiots, we all know that 12 year olds and such play these games and why do we want to poison, yes i used poison, their minds further.

okay but... ain't ratings for parents of young kids to judge what they should /should not play?
if not then...why even place rating on the box??? or even use ratings????

Modifié par Marcin R, 14 février 2010 - 07:30 .


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Mak89 wrote...

America is ****ed up. Self-rightoues adults over 35 think it's their duty to police kids and young adults. They have a problem with everything. We are being sheltered by the media and that's why when we see boobs were like Omgzzzz Boobies!!! and the rest of the world is like whatever.

I'm 37 and I have no problem with a nipple or two.. I live in a sexual society.  Most people here aren't afraid of nudity.. Sex is human nature.  Can't fight it.  Just love it. :P

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Are we talking about them just in Bioware games or in general?

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Wolfehunter wrote...

Mak89 wrote...
 Sex is human nature.  Can't fight it.  Just love it. :P

right.
so why some say Bioware/EA shuld wash Mass Effect out of it completely? as this is supposed to be REALISTIC game? i don;t get it. and still stick with opinion: expand love thread a bit in reference to ME1 
you don't like it ?u don't have to do romance part-simple
u don't want others to see it? don't buy the game and stop bothering yourself-also simple"P

Modifié par Marcin R, 14 février 2010 - 07:35 .


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Marcin K

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Cancermeat wrote...

Are we talking about them just in Bioware games or in general?

i think we talk about Mass Effect series only...
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for some it may seem as i double-posted.
answer: no, that was not my intention
for some unknown reason to me, editing the post moves it to the bottom of the board....

Modifié par Marcin R, 14 février 2010 - 07:38 .


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Going back to BG2, the romance's there grew over the adventure, it was about building the relationship and bonding with whomever it was you chose. In ME2 i would much rather have had more building the relationship/bond with these characters, you can't help but feel connected to Garrus and Tali as they have been through it all with you. The actual sex scene is unimportant, i think its more about having that connection with the character you choose thru the game, in my humble opinion...

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Daskworx wrote...
 i think its more about having that connection with the character you choose thru the game, in my humble opinion...

DING DING! i think you've just hit 10 spot!:)

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Completely agree, Daskworx.



(I still like a little bit of sexytimes at the end, but still, I'd rather the time and energy went into the relationship if there had to be a choice.)

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Marcin R wrote...

[i myself thought that EA & BIOWARE would expand somewhat love scenes and all that's around it a little more in 2 than in ME 1 but it in my opinion ,sadly, ME 2 is going opposite direction, the're "shutting the door" so to say literally

the game has 18+ rating on the box anyway, so for me it would be good if they expanded love thread in ME3 to something like permanent relationship and dragged scenes a bit more futhurer. i not say a lot but a bit more [in comparison with scenes form ME1]
so to sum up: BIOWARE & EA as to love thread/scenes don't go current path[ME2] expand it a bit [from ref. point ME1]
it wont hurt!


Ditto!

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catabuca wrote...

Completely agree, Daskworx.

(I still like a little bit of sexytimes at the end, but still, I'd rather the time and energy went into the relationship if there had to be a choice.)


Thankyou! Good point yourself!

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Stanley Woo wrote...
ironically, insisting on sex and nudity tends to make people look immature.


QFT

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Mostly, I'd just like to understand Bio's decision-making here. If they feel it's really not worth it to go the ME1 route because of USA right-wing lunacy, I can live with that.

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I didn't get my question answered, but i noticed many ppl saying "get a girlfriend". Now this just shows total misunderstanding. It's not about seeing the naked flesh, it's not a goddamn porn game, if ppl want porn they'll go and get some porn or get laid. You are not the ones to tell people to get a girlfriend or a boyfriend or a dog or frekin whatever. The topic is about the sex scenes in the game, I don't really got a sense of accomplishment when i "scored" Miranda. I mean, you can have dinner with Kelly and they don't show it, i thought it would be an interesting talk or flirt or anything,but no, you just go in and get out. Why didn't they do the same with the sex scene? Either do it properly or just don't bother imho. It's like them saying to the player: See her/him? You like her/him? Wanna get em in bed? Sure, wanna watch it? Ok here you go...NOT. It's like teasing a dog with 5 grams of meat. Either give it smthin to eat or just leave it alone.

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Didn't go through the whole thread, but what I think is really funny is the fact that the Kelly scene (don't know about the other romances, since my femshep immediately fell for Kelly ;-)) is actually more "pornographic" than the sex scene of ME 1.
I mean, seriously, she is just being objectified (not that I as a dude have a problem with that), while the sex scene in ME 1 is rather sensual. Sure, you get to see a naked alien butt and a sideboob.. but seriously, am I the only one who thinks context is more important than what is actually shown? It's a nice sensual love/sex scene, while as I said, the dance in ME 2 is rather objectifying of women. OK, I had no problem with that, but I think after the rather sensual scene of ME 1 it was a bit disappointing and I thought it was more explicit, even though she was dressed.

To draw a comparison: I think it's the same as if in an anti-war movie/game there is explicit violence and gore, nobody would think it to be a bad thing, since it's in the context. And then take a film that is not as explicit, but where the violence/gore is only in there for the sake of showing it... I hope that kinda made clear what I meant... I don't need nudity in my games, but I the romance in ME 2 (at least with Kelly - as I said, haven't tried any others yet) was rather disappointing in the end, especially after she is so cute when you first start firting with her... kinda felt like a big letdown in the end, after a great start!
At least my femshep should have been able to kiss her... <3

Modifié par TheTrooper1138, 14 février 2010 - 09:11 .


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xxxKenseIxxx

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She's not really a romance option ya know, maybe in me3 i dunno, but u can score anyone and still have a personal stripper...not that it's exciting or anything.

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I think it avoiding it was a good choice for this game. It will probably return in 3 tho.



Too bad we dont get to see what tats jack has on her ass

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Lopake

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they need a sex scene on a wii game, wouldnt that be fun

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I for one really liked the clothed scene between Shepard and a certain biotic crazy woman. It seemed much more touching and sweet.

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Lopake wrote...

they need a sex scene on a wii game, wouldnt that be fun


Not to mention ironic.
Still, leaves plenty of room for interactivity - swing the wii remote! To... fall off the bed or something =3

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xxxKenseIxxx wrote...

She's not really a romance option ya know, maybe in me3 i dunno, but u can score anyone and still have a personal stripper...not that it's exciting or anything.


I know, sucks, since she was the most interesting LI in the game imao. Well, in my book she and my femshep are having a romance and I hope they don't ignore her in ME3! <3

Modifié par TheTrooper1138, 14 février 2010 - 11:33 .


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yuncas wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.


Is bunky the wonder clown glen beck?


Glenn Beck is my hero.

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I guess I'll never understand what's so bad about nipples. I like them, personally.

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durasteel wrote...

I guess I'll never understand what's so bad about nipples. I like them, personally.


who outside America and Islamic countries doesn't? :whistle: