I wasn't going to respond to this thread because, frankly, it's a tired topic at this point. But then I read Stanley Woo's responses and felt I had to say something. (I'm sure it's been said already, but whatever.) Woo states that we, the gamers complaining about the lack of nudity, are immature. (That was his comment in a nutshell. Not putting any words in his mouth here.) To clarify, Mr. Woo - we aren't clamoring for more sex and more nudity. I wish to remind you right now of your previous game, which had very tasteful nudity. BioWare was then besieged on all sides by the Conservative right, and you know the rest of the story.
In Mass Effect 2, there is no nudity. That is fine with me - I thought several of the sex scenes were done very well. What I am concerned about is that there is no more artful nudity, and several of the scenes don't get past the kissing (or head bumping) stage. This is not a problem in the sense that I want to see some TAV. It is a problem in the sense that I get the feeling that BioWare succumbed to the cumulative pressure from all the people who threw stones at them.
So no, I don't want to see HBO sex scenes. You took our comments completely out of context, and the way you responded to us was a bullsh*t cop-out at best. I am quite sure that at least someone at BioWare must have realized by now that the majority of the complainers who were upset by ME2's lack of partial nudity were upset not because they were denied soft porn, but because they see this event as the developer they love bowing down to the demands and threats of people less intelligent than said developer. We are upset because we feel that BioWare has compromised its own artistic integrity as well as its public image of a cutting-edge developing company.
In the end, I was really not bothered by the lack of nudity at all. Some of the climactic romance scenes were underdone, but the ones that were finished properly (Jack's, Miranda's, Jacob's, and Tali's to a somewhat lesser extent) were done very well. But I refuse to believe that there is not one person at BioWare who has the intelligence to understand where their clamoring gaming community is coming from when they complain about the lack of nudity. Please don't insult our intelligence anymore.
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#502
Posté 15 février 2010 - 02:29
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(animated) )nipples aren't the whole story.
Appreciate the (animated) person they belong to
Appreciate the (animated) person they belong to
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 03:10
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Agamemnon2589 wrote...
I wasn't going to respond to this thread because, frankly, it's a tired topic at this point. But then I read Stanley Woo's responses and felt I had to say something. (I'm sure it's been said already, but whatever.) Woo states that we, the gamers complaining about the lack of nudity, are immature. (That was his comment in a nutshell. Not putting any words in his mouth here.) To clarify, Mr. Woo - we aren't clamoring for more sex and more nudity. I wish to remind you right now of your previous game, which had very tasteful nudity. BioWare was then besieged on all sides by the Conservative right, and you know the rest of the story.
In Mass Effect 2, there is no nudity. That is fine with me - I thought several of the sex scenes were done very well. What I am concerned about is that there is no more artful nudity, and several of the scenes don't get past the kissing (or head bumping) stage. This is not a problem in the sense that I want to see some TAV. It is a problem in the sense that I get the feeling that BioWare succumbed to the cumulative pressure from all the people who threw stones at them.
So no, I don't want to see HBO sex scenes. You took our comments completely out of context, and the way you responded to us was a bullsh*t cop-out at best. I am quite sure that at least someone at BioWare must have realized by now that the majority of the complainers who were upset by ME2's lack of partial nudity were upset not because they were denied soft porn, but because they see this event as the developer they love bowing down to the demands and threats of people less intelligent than said developer. We are upset because we feel that BioWare has compromised its own artistic integrity as well as its public image of a cutting-edge developing company.
In the end, I was really not bothered by the lack of nudity at all. Some of the climactic romance scenes were underdone, but the ones that were finished properly (Jack's, Miranda's, Jacob's, and Tali's to a somewhat lesser extent) were done very well. But I refuse to believe that there is not one person at BioWare who has the intelligence to understand where their clamoring gaming community is coming from when they complain about the lack of nudity. Please don't insult our intelligence anymore.
You couldn't have said it better, I had trouble expressing my thoughts cuz english isn't my native language. Nice composing skills.
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Agamemnon2589 wrote...
I wasn't going to respond to this thread because, frankly, it's a tired topic at this point. But then I read Stanley Woo's responses and felt I had to say something. (I'm sure it's been said already, but whatever.) Woo states that we, the gamers complaining about the lack of nudity, are immature. (That was his comment in a nutshell. Not putting any words in his mouth here.) To clarify, Mr. Woo - we aren't clamoring for more sex and more nudity. I wish to remind you right now of your previous game, which had very tasteful nudity. BioWare was then besieged on all sides by the Conservative right, and you know the rest of the story.
In Mass Effect 2, there is no nudity. That is fine with me - I thought several of the sex scenes were done very well. What I am concerned about is that there is no more artful nudity, and several of the scenes don't get past the kissing (or head bumping) stage. This is not a problem in the sense that I want to see some TAV. It is a problem in the sense that I get the feeling that BioWare succumbed to the cumulative pressure from all the people who threw stones at them.
So no, I don't want to see HBO sex scenes. You took our comments completely out of context, and the way you responded to us was a bullsh*t cop-out at best. I am quite sure that at least someone at BioWare must have realized by now that the majority of the complainers who were upset by ME2's lack of partial nudity were upset not because they were denied soft porn, but because they see this event as the developer they love bowing down to the demands and threats of people less intelligent than said developer. We are upset because we feel that BioWare has compromised its own artistic integrity as well as its public image of a cutting-edge developing company.
In the end, I was really not bothered by the lack of nudity at all. Some of the climactic romance scenes were underdone, but the ones that were finished properly (Jack's, Miranda's, Jacob's, and Tali's to a somewhat lesser extent) were done very well. But I refuse to believe that there is not one person at BioWare who has the intelligence to understand where their clamoring gaming community is coming from when they complain about the lack of nudity. Please don't insult our intelligence anymore.
Again, QFT.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 03:53
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For note, I just came in on this page, I support this side of the argument(Which is actually a 4 sided one), and I couldn't have said it better myself.
I'll elaborate on the four sides as I see it:
It seems there's those who want western culture's taboos kept firmly in place out of fear of chaos or intense corruption amongst the youth by strange perversions. These tend to be people who fear their own perversions either for persecution from their open-social peers or just flat out insecurity and conflicting ideals.
There's those who want it blocked off and limited to keep the previous quarter at bay, this group is split up among homophobes who want to keep anyone they can in the closet. The other half are all genuinely worried about moral decay, not from the "gay menace" or anything like that, but from the prospect of culture devolving into a pool of decadence and worldly pleasures. These are pretty much cynics who see other humans as fickle and self serving. I would describe this demographic as bitter intellectuals.
On the other side, there's really those who want this simply for the pornographic qualities, there's no real regard for the other sides, although this rather slim group may understand the others' concerns, but they simply don't want to hear it.
I consider myself and anyone who agrees with the above few posts on this page(21, should responses knock my post back a couple in the time I type it.) This is the group that believes one or more of the things below:
Sexuality can be seen and represented in an artistic light, not so much as a carnal urge for procreation, but as a bond binding two people together. There are those who take such a bond lightly and treat it as a drug, just looking for the next fix, but that also represents the human condition. Granted, Mass Effect isn't about humans alone, sure, they're making their place in the galaxy, but there's a little humanity in each of the bipedal, humanoid races represented throughout the game, even the Geth(Curiosity is what I refer to here). Most humans seek to find a meaning to accompany our feelings. Yes, for the most part, we're all driven to obey our biology and find a mate(whether the relationship is reproductive or not), but what sets us aside from animals is that we, or most of us, try to find someone whom we can tolerate in the long run, we no longer seek traits that are simply good for the survival of our species, but we look for ones that appeal to us individually. This is demonstrated every day of every year, it's a constant and a variable and if we we're all just horny little perverts, then we probably wouldn't be discussing this right now, it would instead be about the detail the dev's should go into in the next game about Quarian and Turian physiology. Either that, or we'd be posting elsewhere on 4chan or something about how we need more rule 34. I'm typing this from the perspective of an Artist(sculpture), 3D animator, and future game developer.
I'll elaborate on the four sides as I see it:
It seems there's those who want western culture's taboos kept firmly in place out of fear of chaos or intense corruption amongst the youth by strange perversions. These tend to be people who fear their own perversions either for persecution from their open-social peers or just flat out insecurity and conflicting ideals.
There's those who want it blocked off and limited to keep the previous quarter at bay, this group is split up among homophobes who want to keep anyone they can in the closet. The other half are all genuinely worried about moral decay, not from the "gay menace" or anything like that, but from the prospect of culture devolving into a pool of decadence and worldly pleasures. These are pretty much cynics who see other humans as fickle and self serving. I would describe this demographic as bitter intellectuals.
On the other side, there's really those who want this simply for the pornographic qualities, there's no real regard for the other sides, although this rather slim group may understand the others' concerns, but they simply don't want to hear it.
I consider myself and anyone who agrees with the above few posts on this page(21, should responses knock my post back a couple in the time I type it.) This is the group that believes one or more of the things below:
Sexuality can be seen and represented in an artistic light, not so much as a carnal urge for procreation, but as a bond binding two people together. There are those who take such a bond lightly and treat it as a drug, just looking for the next fix, but that also represents the human condition. Granted, Mass Effect isn't about humans alone, sure, they're making their place in the galaxy, but there's a little humanity in each of the bipedal, humanoid races represented throughout the game, even the Geth(Curiosity is what I refer to here). Most humans seek to find a meaning to accompany our feelings. Yes, for the most part, we're all driven to obey our biology and find a mate(whether the relationship is reproductive or not), but what sets us aside from animals is that we, or most of us, try to find someone whom we can tolerate in the long run, we no longer seek traits that are simply good for the survival of our species, but we look for ones that appeal to us individually. This is demonstrated every day of every year, it's a constant and a variable and if we we're all just horny little perverts, then we probably wouldn't be discussing this right now, it would instead be about the detail the dev's should go into in the next game about Quarian and Turian physiology. Either that, or we'd be posting elsewhere on 4chan or something about how we need more rule 34. I'm typing this from the perspective of an Artist(sculpture), 3D animator, and future game developer.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 04:31
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I find Mr Woo's comments in this thread both heartening and slightly hypocritical.
An earth shattering affirmative to the point about wanting a constant stream of sex and violence in every aspect of media being decidedly immature..but also a 'how the hell can he say that with a straight face?' when you look at how DA was marketed. It hit all the 'mature' buttons, but was then all wrapped up in a big blood soaked, screw anything, ball (complete with angsty rock track) absolutely designed to appeal to a demographic they knew fine well they weren't supposed to be aiming at.
Here's a revolutionary thought.. given the axiom,about sex, that the more you put in the more will be wanted. Why not take the undeniably mature route and accept that the entire internet knows what sex is.... and simply leave it out of your next game.. then the writers can concentrate less on pandering to slack jawed spotty oiks and more on the actual and subtle nature of platonic friendship and bonding (instead of the horrible brickwall subtley and cliche that we get at the moment).. and you never know, somewhere along the line someone might come to the revelation that the whole of human interaction doesn't have to be with the ultimate goal of filling up holes in various parts of the anatomy with various other parts of the anatomy.
Oh, damn... I forgot.. that's quite difficult to sell to children.
An earth shattering affirmative to the point about wanting a constant stream of sex and violence in every aspect of media being decidedly immature..but also a 'how the hell can he say that with a straight face?' when you look at how DA was marketed. It hit all the 'mature' buttons, but was then all wrapped up in a big blood soaked, screw anything, ball (complete with angsty rock track) absolutely designed to appeal to a demographic they knew fine well they weren't supposed to be aiming at.
Here's a revolutionary thought.. given the axiom,about sex, that the more you put in the more will be wanted. Why not take the undeniably mature route and accept that the entire internet knows what sex is.... and simply leave it out of your next game.. then the writers can concentrate less on pandering to slack jawed spotty oiks and more on the actual and subtle nature of platonic friendship and bonding (instead of the horrible brickwall subtley and cliche that we get at the moment).. and you never know, somewhere along the line someone might come to the revelation that the whole of human interaction doesn't have to be with the ultimate goal of filling up holes in various parts of the anatomy with various other parts of the anatomy.
Oh, damn... I forgot.. that's quite difficult to sell to children.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 05:21
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Remember, Half-Life's target demographic was twelve year olds, but was an M game, supposedly for 18 years and up, the plot was thin, but doable, and the action was heavy. When you look at the plot and layers of detail, not just put into the cliche of the romance scenes, there's a lot to the background of the whole universe created for this. Mass Effect's plot seems a little thick for a child with a 6th grade reading level to grasp to its entirety. I didn't buy DAO, as you may be able to tell, because it wasn't Sci-Fi, I'm not big on fantasy or revenge trips. So I wouldn't know much about it, other than what my friends tell me. As far as the artistic expression goes, art isn't about compromise, it's not about sales, if you put your ideas out there in an original form, it will be successful in its own right. Mass Effect 2 is a game with a very strong suspense of disbeliefe aspect that was obviously very carefully woven in. Afterall, that's part of what the term 'well polished' refers to. Sex isn't a matter of maturity, the only immaturity is those who can't live without it, or those who can't live without acting like it's their business(within reason, not saying it isn't someone's business if their partner is cheating).
But in retrospect, there was nothing wrong with sex, or rather implied sex scenes in ME2 from an expressive standpoint, assuming they were made solely of the creativity of the team, rather than the participle support of those who'd censor everything in the name of political ideology. Each scene did a decent job at expressing the nature of the character it portrayed, a mission accomplished in my book.
I guess this is sort of the community's way of asking Bioware "Is everything alright? They didn't threaten you, did they?" I'm sure everyone's fine with Bioware's decisions in their own games, you know, unless the franchise games are a complete and utter departure from what they've done so far in each series.
But in retrospect, there was nothing wrong with sex, or rather implied sex scenes in ME2 from an expressive standpoint, assuming they were made solely of the creativity of the team, rather than the participle support of those who'd censor everything in the name of political ideology. Each scene did a decent job at expressing the nature of the character it portrayed, a mission accomplished in my book.
I guess this is sort of the community's way of asking Bioware "Is everything alright? They didn't threaten you, did they?" I'm sure everyone's fine with Bioware's decisions in their own games, you know, unless the franchise games are a complete and utter departure from what they've done so far in each series.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 05:31
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For those going on about Afterlife and such, not all strippers are dancers, and not all dancers are strippers. Just because Omega is "lawless" doesn't mean everyone needs to run around naked.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 05:48
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Many of you feel Bioware succumbed to outside pressure, I won't say you're wrong (only Bioware knows if they "cracked"), but I will say that I think you are completely missing the point of this game and the purpose behind the character relationships.
#510
Posté 15 février 2010 - 05:58
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Actually lawless or underground clubs are kinda extreme. Women and men wear very little and clothing can be exagerated. Bioware took the easy road. If its an M rated game then it should follow that target market. If 12 year olds are playing this then where is the parents?.. Anyhow Pixel nipples won't hurt them lol....Massadonious1 wrote...
For those going on about Afterlife and such, not all strippers are dancers, and not all dancers are strippers. Just because Omega is "lawless" doesn't mean everyone needs to run around naked.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:15
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G'day, first time poster here.
Rather than pilfer through 21 pages of this subject (don't hate me), I'm just going to post my thoughts and let you lot dissect and discredit it to your hearts content. Mass Effect 2 seems to have taken a few backwards steps and the "sex" is not excluded. In ME1 there was a lead up to the deed, you clearly see there was more then a cuddle and kiss on the cheek then the "talk after". It always cracks me up when Shepard says "Ready for round 2?"
But I digress.. I think, there are many people that say "If you want this, go get a girlfriend or look up porn on the internet" but the point (or the point I'm going to make) is that Bioware included the romantic subplot into their game so why only add in a tiny aspect of it? They are trying to make as a surreal RPG as possible so between the "big stupid jellyfish" and routing dozens of geth why should the romance be put on the back burner? The ME2 love scenes seemed to lack passion, for lack of a better word. Just my 5 cents there.
EDIT Note: On further thought on this, I remember asking Kaiden "Ready for Round 2?" to which he literally shouted "JOKERS WAITING FOR YOU AT THE BRIDGE CONTROLS!" It seemed as if going another round with my femshep was as bad as the mission that followed. Do'h!
Rather than pilfer through 21 pages of this subject (don't hate me), I'm just going to post my thoughts and let you lot dissect and discredit it to your hearts content. Mass Effect 2 seems to have taken a few backwards steps and the "sex" is not excluded. In ME1 there was a lead up to the deed, you clearly see there was more then a cuddle and kiss on the cheek then the "talk after". It always cracks me up when Shepard says "Ready for round 2?"
But I digress.. I think, there are many people that say "If you want this, go get a girlfriend or look up porn on the internet" but the point (or the point I'm going to make) is that Bioware included the romantic subplot into their game so why only add in a tiny aspect of it? They are trying to make as a surreal RPG as possible so between the "big stupid jellyfish" and routing dozens of geth why should the romance be put on the back burner? The ME2 love scenes seemed to lack passion, for lack of a better word. Just my 5 cents there.
EDIT Note: On further thought on this, I remember asking Kaiden "Ready for Round 2?" to which he literally shouted "JOKERS WAITING FOR YOU AT THE BRIDGE CONTROLS!" It seemed as if going another round with my femshep was as bad as the mission that followed. Do'h!
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:22
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Totally agree with the OP. Its a matter of supporting your views and including in your game what you consider a valuable addition. They way ME2 was treated shows that BW pays more attention to the purist minority than to all the gamers that have been following it's works all these years.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:25
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Gamers want boobies!!
No wait, we want good games.
No wait, we want good games.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:33
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Massadonious1 wrote...
Gamers want boobies!!
No wait, we want good games.
That's 3/3 threads of similar content in which I find you "interested" in what I wrote. Bravo, I got myself a fan I guess.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:34
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I'd just like the scenes to be more sensual.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:40
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Agamemnon2589 wrote...
I wasn't going to respond to this thread because, frankly, it's a tired topic at this point. But then I read Stanley Woo's responses and felt I had to say something. (I'm sure it's been said already, but whatever.) Woo states that we, the gamers complaining about the lack of nudity, are immature. (That was his comment in a nutshell. Not putting any words in his mouth here.) To clarify, Mr. Woo - we aren't clamoring for more sex and more nudity. I wish to remind you right now of your previous game, which had very tasteful nudity. BioWare was then besieged on all sides by the Conservative right, and you know the rest of the story.
In Mass Effect 2, there is no nudity. That is fine with me - I thought several of the sex scenes were done very well. What I am concerned about is that there is no more artful nudity, and several of the scenes don't get past the kissing (or head bumping) stage. This is not a problem in the sense that I want to see some TAV. It is a problem in the sense that I get the feeling that BioWare succumbed to the cumulative pressure from all the people who threw stones at them.
So no, I don't want to see HBO sex scenes. You took our comments completely out of context, and the way you responded to us was a bullsh*t cop-out at best. I am quite sure that at least someone at BioWare must have realized by now that the majority of the complainers who were upset by ME2's lack of partial nudity were upset not because they were denied soft porn, but because they see this event as the developer they love bowing down to the demands and threats of people less intelligent than said developer. We are upset because we feel that BioWare has compromised its own artistic integrity as well as its public image of a cutting-edge developing company.
In the end, I was really not bothered by the lack of nudity at all. Some of the climactic romance scenes were underdone, but the ones that were finished properly (Jack's, Miranda's, Jacob's, and Tali's to a somewhat lesser extent) were done very well. But I refuse to believe that there is not one person at BioWare who has the intelligence to understand where their clamoring gaming community is coming from when they complain about the lack of nudity. Please don't insult our intelligence anymore.
Great post, depicts what the majority of the fans supports.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:41
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FiOth wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Gamers want boobies!!
No wait, we want good games.
That's 3/3 threads of similar content in which I find you "interested" in what I wrote. Bravo, I got myself a fan I guess.
You flatter yourself too much.
I comment in these threads because I care about the subject content. If you don't want different opinions, go write in your diary.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:46
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Massadonious1 wrote...
FiOth wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Gamers want boobies!!
No wait, we want good games.
That's 3/3 threads of similar content in which I find you "interested" in what I wrote. Bravo, I got myself a fan I guess.
You flatter yourself too much.
I comment in these threads because I care about the subject content. If you don't want different opinions, go write in your diary.
Its not my place to discuss whether or not what you write has merit - imo you are just spamming, but as I wrote its just my opinion -. I am commenting on the fact that you are trying to make what I - and people with whom you disagree - write seem moronic. In case you don't want to admit it here you go:
http://social.biowar...ndex/1018802/31
http://social.biowar...index/1219527/1
http://social.biowar...index/996475/21
Enjoy.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:53
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I've already made my opinion well known in the 30+ page thread. My long winded, rational reply was on page 27 or 28 of that thread if you care so much. I don't care to repeat myself everytime one of these threads pop up.
I'm sorry that you think you aren't beating a dead horse, but you are. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that BioWare sold themselves out because they wont show flopping ****** or nude dancers on Omega.
I'm sorry that you think you aren't beating a dead horse, but you are. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that BioWare sold themselves out because they wont show flopping ****** or nude dancers on Omega.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:58
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Massadonious1 wrote...
I've already made my opinion well known in the 30+ page thread. My long winded, rational reply was on page 27 or 28 of that thread if you care so much. I don't care to repeat myself everytime one of these threads pop up.
I'm sorry that you think you aren't beating a dead horse, but you are. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that BioWare sold themselves out because they wont show flopping ****** or nude dancers on Omega.
I am sorry for you too my friend. It seems that by attempting to diminish other people's opinions you make yourself feel better. Its all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Piece.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 07:59
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Nobody really gave Saboteur or Godfather 2 any flack about bare breasts o' plenty. Like so many have said if it was in ME1 shouldve been in ME2. And to those that say "you want nudity go watch porn", that's not very constructive nor is it mature, maybe you're not mature enough for the M rating. Something to think about.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 08:01
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Operative84 wrote...
Nobody really gave Saboteur or Godfather 2 any flack about bare breasts o' plenty. Like so many have said if it was in ME1 shouldve been in ME2. And to those that say "you want nudity go watch porn", that's not very constructive nor is it mature, maybe you're not mature enough for the M rating. Something to think about.
"Think" is the key word my friend. Some times asking people to do that is harder than asking them to run 100 meters on one foot.
#523
Posté 15 février 2010 - 08:05
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FiOth wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
I've already made my opinion well known in the 30+ page thread. My long winded, rational reply was on page 27 or 28 of that thread if you care so much. I don't care to repeat myself everytime one of these threads pop up.
I'm sorry that you think you aren't beating a dead horse, but you are. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that BioWare sold themselves out because they wont show flopping ****** or nude dancers on Omega.
I am sorry for you too my friend. It seems that by attempting to diminish other people's opinions you make yourself feel better. Its all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Piece.
It's your opinion. It doesn't make it wrong or right, nor does it come equipped with a flame shield to prevent people from thinking it's stupid.
Hate to burst your bubble, sport.
But, whatever. Keep trying to deconstruct someone's personality by the .gifs or pithy comments they make on the intertubes. It's quite entertaining.
*Peace.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 08:07
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I feel like this thread makes the same four points over and over in slighty different words.
1. The game is lesser because these scenes lack the sideboob or lovely booty.
2. I would like to see softcore prawns in my vidyagame.
3. I couldn't care less, the scenes in ME1 and ME2 were both fine and different (Myyyy camp)
4. Lol nerds want prawn.
Camps 2 and 4 are stupid. Camps 1 and 3 are valid.
Thread is becoming repetition of same stuff at this point.
Saboteur nudity was stupid and offered as some kind of tantilizing day 1 DLC. Stupid.
Haven't seen it in Godfather 2.
Don't compare nudity appearing in Mass Effect to the nudity that would appear in either of those things, unless you belong in Camp 2. The nudity people care to see implimented here is for intimacy (Which... is its own discussion.) and not for loltits.
Saboteur was loltits.
1. The game is lesser because these scenes lack the sideboob or lovely booty.
2. I would like to see softcore prawns in my vidyagame.
3. I couldn't care less, the scenes in ME1 and ME2 were both fine and different (Myyyy camp)
4. Lol nerds want prawn.
Camps 2 and 4 are stupid. Camps 1 and 3 are valid.
Thread is becoming repetition of same stuff at this point.
Saboteur nudity was stupid and offered as some kind of tantilizing day 1 DLC. Stupid.
Haven't seen it in Godfather 2.
Don't compare nudity appearing in Mass Effect to the nudity that would appear in either of those things, unless you belong in Camp 2. The nudity people care to see implimented here is for intimacy (Which... is its own discussion.) and not for loltits.
Saboteur was loltits.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 08:09
FiOth
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Massadonious1 wrote...
FiOth wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
I've already made my opinion well known in the 30+ page thread. My long winded, rational reply was on page 27 or 28 of that thread if you care so much. I don't care to repeat myself everytime one of these threads pop up.
I'm sorry that you think you aren't beating a dead horse, but you are. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that BioWare sold themselves out because they wont show flopping ****** or nude dancers on Omega.
I am sorry for you too my friend. It seems that by attempting to diminish other people's opinions you make yourself feel better. Its all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Piece.
It's your opinion. It doesn't make it wrong or right, nor does it come equipped with a flame shield to prevent people from thinking it's stupid.
Hate to burst your bubble, sport.
But, whatever. Keep trying to deconstruct someone's personality by the .gifs or pithy comments they make on the intertubes. It's quite entertaining.
*Peace.
/looks left, then right
Who is trying to change your opinion?
This is getting nowhere. Waste of thread space. I liked the "sport" part though, it had weight! (Now, I heard that same line somewhere recently).
Knock yourself out my friend. I wasted as much time in non-productive chatter today as I could. Have fun!
