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[JamesMoriarty123]

You're right in that the partial nudity of the first games scenes completely made the mood feel more natural and intimate for us adult gamers. I mean when I have sex, I get naked. So do most people. Only part of the game where Bioware dropped the ball in my opinion.

[SkullandBonesmember]

As posted by llinsane1ll in the thread that just got locked.

Lol how pathetic. You guys want more sex in a video game. How about worrying on how to actually improve the game in gameplay...

That's right. Pfft. We want more SPLOSHUNS' in our games. That's what makes video games great! We don't want immersive character development.

Modifié par SkullandBonesmember, 15 février 2010 - 07:28 .

[ME2Shephard]

Ok. I know this hasn't been stated in a while but for those that think Bioware Downplayed the sex scenes in Mass Effect2 because of EA, all I have to say is play the Demo of Dante's Inferno. You will see a plethora of boobs in that EA title within the first 5 minutes. I agree with most people in here, sure Bioware downplayed it but if Bioware downplayed them to give the game more story... I will take it 10 times over than have a more MATURE scene. Like many have said, its a video game. I bought it to play a good story, not to see individuals making whoopy the whole time.

[peterflam]

it's not going to affect the story. that's a garbage argument. and there are romance scenes, just not sex scenes. and they probably took as much time on those as they would for a realistic sex scene.

[Agamemnon2589]

 I love how many people are still taking this discussion out of context! "Oh, you're upset because they took out nudity so you must just want to ******! You don't care about character development or good games - you just want porn! Nyeehhhh!"
Holy CHRIST you people are stupid! Grow up already!

[SkullandBonesmember]

ME2Shephard wrote...

I agree with most people in here, sure Bioware downplayed it but if Bioware downplayed them to give the game more story... I will take it 10 times over than have a more MATURE scene.

Are you serious? The story DID suffer. Partially because of some of the romance scenes, but as a whole.

[Xpardox91X]

Agamemnon2589 wrote...

 I love how many people are still taking this discussion out of context! "Oh, you're upset because they took out nudity so you must just want to ******! You don't care about character development or good games - you just want porn! Nyeehhhh!"
Holy CHRIST you people are stupid! Grow up already!

Totally agree... I dont hear anybody saying that you go to strip clubs in GTA to ******, ya do it because you can.
Point: It's not about that, it's about the fact of realism.

[Blind Lark]

I see it as the game is a rpg/shooter morph with strong emphasis on story telling...Nudity isn't relevant to that, and I think it would make the actors/actresses whose character models are based off of them just feel...awkward.

[guise709]

Only way we will ever get a decent sex scene is if they release a toolset for Mass Effect 3 like they did with Dragon Age Origins. And I really do hope they do release a toolset not for the pron but for the user created content.

[Phonantiphon]

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.

This post FTW 

[Agamemnon2589]

bassmunkee wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.

This post FTW 

Sure, if being a hypocrite is "win".

[FataliTensei]

I really think what you get in ME2 is enough as far as sex scenes go, the ME1 ones were very well done, aristic more than erotic even, but if they want to leave it out, then so be it

[Ryzaki]

Agamemnon2589 wrote...

bassmunkee wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.

This post FTW 

Sure, if being a hypocrite is "win".

Oh this sooo much.

Because having a bad striptease from Ms.Fanservice is oh so "mature" and "tasteful" . Ugh. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 février 2010 - 10:58 .

[Lopake]

I just want to know if Jack's ass is the only part of her without tats

[Livemmo]

Stanley Woo wrote...

drkl0rd2000 wrote...

I don't think we need nudity in movies either, oh lets remove violence in games and movies too. Lets next censor news media so that they can no longer show war footage on broadcast T.V.

To the original point of this post, I find it sad that in the "land of the free" that we allow such a twisted set of views. We americans have no problem allowing our 13 year old son to play GTA with the cop shooting, prostitute beating, robbing houses and car jacking. But put in a TASTEFUL plot device such as the wonderful gift of love making(MASS EFFECT 1) between two characters who have developed a relationship with each other and parents flip and the media wants to burn the producers alive.

Let's keep the politics out of the discussion, please. Eavh region will have its own laws, cultural bias, and tolerances, and this discussion tends to put people on the defensive. This leads to arguments that we'd rather not have on our forums.

Seriously game Devs need to grow some nads, it the game is rated M then let the rating speak for itself, it is NOT your job to parent the child. If the actual parents lack that ability and decide to use media to parent the child then perhaps they should invest in any number of parents for dummies books out there that might help them!!!

You are absolutely correct. It is not our job to parent the child or determine what content is acceptable or unaceptable for our players. But on the other hand, it is not your jobe to dictate what content we include or don't include in our games. Game development is not a collaborative effort between developers and gamers; it is a dictatorship, where we alone determine what content goes into our game. You the player make the choice whether that content is acceptable to you (and/or your family) or not.

As long as it's being done by CHOICE by Bioware I'm fine with it. Now if you were afraid to do something because of what may or may not be said then it's a different story. In my oppinion however, sex and nudity doesnt ruin a story if done in moderation. It must be shown as art and not pornography. This oppinion of course means nothing since it's Bioware who chooses. Like I said, as long as they're not afraid of doing it because of Fox News or something I'm fine with their choice.

[bombUp]

 Its not a problem in my eyes. 

But my guess would be that this was never Bioware's decision but the ESRB's. 

[SunglareAK]

I would like to know why they chose not to have more intimate love scenes.They explain why they made a lot of the other changes but don't want to go into detail about the love scenes. Seems odd.

Last i checked Nudity and sex were a mature matter and the game is rated mature. Seems some of the posters think nudity = immature. It's only immature if you deal with it in a immature way.
The ESRB allows nudity in Mature games, There are a lot of games out there with nudity and only have a muture rating not an AO rating, but I digress. People aren't really asking for nudity they are asking for the awesome intimate love scenes they had in the first game. The ones in ME2 see kinda corney.

Personally I blame Stanley Woo, in a lot of the responses I've read by him he seems to have issues with sex and nudity. I can picture him starting somekind of protest in the office to have the love scenes toned down. "But that is just my personal opinion, no need to go spreading it around."

Modifié par SunglareAK, 16 février 2010 - 12:01 .

[TheTrooper1138]

SunglareAK wrote...
 

Personally I blame Stanley Woo, in a lot of the responses I've read by him he seems to have issues with sex and nudity. I can picture him starting somekind of protest in the office to have the love scenes toned down. "But that is just my personal opinion, no need to go spreading it around."

You just made my day... 

[Lopake]

Is anyone else other than me glad that there wasnt any in this one?

[Policyofnoreturn]

bassmunkee wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.

This post FTW 

Wow - so we have Miranda's aerodynamic ****** and ass, Tali's hips, Kelly's silly strip-tease in full crimsom spandex, Samara's cleavage, Jacob's ripped body, etc, which all reeks of sex because sex sells. And then we have explosions, blood, murder, etc. but oh no explicit nudity because that's just not what we wanted.

I wonder what did Bioware want? The sexuality portrayed in ME2 is cheap (and not all that cheerful) as well as arguably vulgar - a wide departure from the artistic and tastefully portrayed almost-nudity of ME1. Who is Stanley Woo kidding?

Modifié par Policyofnoreturn, 16 février 2010 - 01:31 .

[Murmillos]

I dont' think many people were looking for anything more then what we got in ME1 (but yes.. those PERVS do exist ) But figuring we went from back side nudity and showing of a bare butt to nothing - is a strange behavior for a company whom clearly wants to you feel close to your squad mates, then goes and cuts something out like this.

[oldgass]

Exactly it is a circle. Some will argue for it, some will argue against it. While in fact most of us could care less if there was or wasn`t any. So I am sorry there is nothing serious here at all, just the same old story. Repression versus Expression it doesn

[Ryzaki]

Policyofnoreturn wrote...

Wow - so we have Miranda's aerodynamic ****** and ass, Tali's hips, Kelly's silly strip-tease in full crimsom spandex, Samara's cleavage, Jacob's ripped body, etc, which all reeks of sex because sex sells. And then we have explosions, blood, murder, etc. but oh no explicit nudity because that's just not what we wanted.

I wonder what did Bioware want? The sexuality portrayed in ME2 is cheap (and not all that cheerful) as well as arguably vulgar - a wide departure from the artistic and tastefully portrayed almost-nudity of ME1. Who is Stanley Woo kidding?

QFT