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[Brockololly]

The whole Morrigan/ Old God Baby plot line is the one big loose end from DAO (especially if you romance Morrigan). If they can resolve this in DLC or an Expansion pack, then I would be fine with DA2 being a clean break from Ferelden, even though I would prefer a direct sequel, as unlikely and unwieldy as that would be to make.

[David Gaider]

Since we've moved onto plot spoilers, I'm moving this into the appropriate forum.

[TheBlackBaron]

Well, a direct sequel in the ME2 sense (e.g. set two years after the original with a single overarching plotline) seems unlikely for the reasons listed previously.

However, just because something is not set-up like that does not mean it isn't a direct sequel or that one isn't possible. A game set in Tevinter or Orlais twenty or thirty years down the road, featuring some of the same characters and maybe the option to keep using your current Warden would be just fine for me. As I recall there was a good deal of party changeover between BG1 and BG2, and Shadows of Amn had a significantly different plot while still keeping a number of ties to BG1.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 06 février 2010 - 07:04 .

[errant_knight]

I'd much prefer that it continue in the known timeframe, unless they're planning some very large expansions to do that. There were too many dangling thread to just abandon them, and DLC just won't do some of these things justice.

Modifié par errant_knight, 06 février 2010 - 07:37 .

[Zugin]

First war between Qunari and Humans would be fun setting also fall of the Dales.. also they HAVE to do more stuff that has Dwarfs in it, perhaps story at the time of Paragon Aeducan?

[SusanStoHelit]

I'd love to see the first blight and the founding of the Grey Wardens, personally.

[Sabriana]

SusanStoHelit wrote...

I'd love to see the first blight and the founding of the Grey Wardens, personally.

Agreed. Why ignore the past and only focus on the future?

Oh, all these possibilities...., and we get to enjoy speculating, assuming, dissecting press reports, and being made fun of by the devs in their offices over their morning cup of coffee.

[Maria Caliban]

I'd like to see something about Kal-Shorak. "Giant nugs are people! Peeeeople!"

Abriael_CG wrote...

I'm quite sure that morrigan's son/daughter will be either the hero or the villain of a future DA game.
Myself, I'm more leaning towards the hero.

I can tell you're an optimist. "I like X, and while there's no evidence X will happen, I'm quite sure it will."

pixieface wrote...

rock_brm wrote...

I'd actually prefer if it was unrelated to origins - at least to the Darkspawn/ Grey Warden angle. Maybe a more personal type of quest rather than the saving the world from unspeakable evil kind of thing. Something that gives you a bit more moral flexibility on how you like to play it.

Eh? It wouldn't really be a DA game, then.

How wouldn't it really be a Dragon Age game? There's more to the setting than Wardens and Blight. We'd know this IF THEY RELEASED THE DAMN PNP GAME ALREADY.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 février 2010 - 11:00 .

[Stompi]

The great thing about Dragon Age is that there are so many possible settings for future games. But I hope that we will also learn more about Morrigan's child in one of the next games.

Modifié par Stompi, 06 février 2010 - 11:33 .

[Terra_Ex]

Moving out of Ferelden I'm fine with, there's a few loose ends and potentially one big one for male PCs (which failure to provide a fitting conclusion to would constitute it as imo, Bioware's singularly greatest ever blunder).

That said, I think ME2 demonstrates that there's a lot that can be done with cameos and old allies crossing paths again so I think it'd be pretty foolish to throw everything away - seeing circumstances change based on your actions in a previous game is a massively powerful gameplay device. BG2 built on its predecessors successes, removing less popular characters while keeping old favourites and mixing in new blood in a dynamic new environment - I'm hoping for more of the same rather than a series of loosely connected tales within the "Dragon Age" period.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 06 février 2010 - 12:54 .

[Maximus741000]

I wouldn't mind if a sequel was set during the First Blight, with the founding of the First Grey Wardens. With new and unique origins set around Tevinter, The Anderfels, Kal-sharok, even Ferelden and other pre-founded realms. It could see the rise of historical figures like Andraste and Maferath, and introduce unknown figures who were pivotal for ending the Blight, like the first Anderfel grey wardens, the Magisters who allegedly brought the darkspawn into being and if they were truly responsible for as much as the Chantry holds. And of course, the Archdemon, Dumat revealed.

Origins may include Tevinter Magister/Noble, in which your country is under heavy attacks from the darkspawn, and you are one of the commanders of the Tevinter army. Your palace is destoryed when the archdemon itself launches itself at your castle, levelling it to the ground. You only just escape and pledge your abilities to the Wardens. In the Anderfels, the darkspawn are a constant sight, new men become soldiers every day, but eventually they would succumb to the taint which they've battled for so long, soon you will if you join them, unless you join the Wardens. The tribes of the land that becomes Ferelden haven't experienced as much of the darkspawn as other realms, the Imperium remains your main concern. Dwarven origins would be set in Kal-sharok, and the old thaigs, your people are feeling the full brunt of the darkspawn incursions. And then, there are the Elves, rebellious slaves led by Shartan who've took the Blight as their chance to break down Tevinter

Beggining from the moment the darkspawn reveal themselves to the world and Dumat is first sighted, and ending on the Battle of Silent Plains. You are tied into the events of the Blight, when the darkspawn strike your point of Origin (e.g. Tevinter Noble/Magister, Alamari or Anderfel Barbarian, Dwarven soldier of the crumbling empire, or Elven rebel revolting against the weakened Tevinter). You eventually meet the Anderfel darkspawn veterens who plan to form the Grey Warden order. You must aquire the ingredients of the Joining, and draw blood from Dumat for the ritual. You then become one of the Wardens who undergo the first joining, tame the griffons and lead the first united battle against the Blight. The war saw many extraordinary battles, from the majestic griffon flights to wild Anderfel horse charges, from elven archer skirmishes to shield walls of dwarves. Battle after battle is fought, some lost, others won. Your order gains new recruits every year, but numbers still dwindle. Fortresses are build across the land, and soon the darkspawn are pushed back over much of Thedas.

But soon those years of glory short out, and eventually you must go into battle against Dumat, on the Battle of Silent Plains, with the united armies of Men, Dwarves, and Elves. But as the battle draws to a close, your kind soon lie slaughtered around you, and your companions are soon either killed or cut off. Eventually you find yourself confronting Dumat, and victory dictates that you do the deed.

Much of the original Warden order destoryed, the few surviving veterans and groups of apprentices will be the ones to restore the order.

[_Aine_]

I can just see it, the Ghosts of Wardens Past merged with the Fade trip in The Calling. A way to keep some sort of chronology so the timeliners don't explode with all the force of virulent walking bomb That doesn't matter to me, personally, any more than I don't mind where each story takes place, I have faith in the story-writing team and would look forward to both expanded knowledge/experiences in the old as well as new areas. *shrugs*



I personally would *love* to go back to the origins of the wardens and see the history in action. I have voted for that before and add my vote here for it again. Sign me up

[fanman72]

I'll go against the grain here and hoping for a direct sequel, with the same characters used in the original DA games

[Demx]

I'm fine with DA 2 not being a sequel, but I would find it kinda cool if my character in DA 2 is descended from one of my DA characters, and their name written somewhere in the game or their weapon is passed down through the family.

[oYOSSARIANo]

outlaworacle wrote...

jameslt0 wrote...

What if the sequel was about Morrigan's child? This assumes that someone layed with Morrigan before the final battle and the Archdemon's spirit went into the child.

Precisely why that won't be it.

But Foreshadow (spelling ???) predicts a move to Orlais and something about a 'demon-child'.  Then all endings other than siding with Flemeth, say Morrigan may be with 'demon-child' heading east or spotted in Orlais.

Foreshadow has been pretty reliable in the past.

While 'some' of the story conclusions given at the end of DAO sound pretty final, others don't. For instance I died but Lelianna's ending implied the Maker was upto something and we would be reunited.

I can't imagine they are not going to tell the story of Morrigans child. Whether that is going to be while it is a baby/small child or as an adult  remains to be seen.

I go along with Foreshadow, DOA ?2? will be about  Morrigans child in Orlais. I predict cannon will be Morrigan was used in battle with Arch Demon while pregnant with either Alistair or the PC's child.

Modifié par oYOSSARIANo, 07 février 2010 - 06:41 .

[Bullets McDeath]

I was really more dismissing the notion that we will be playing as the Godbaby, not the idea that there might be a resolution to the Godbaby storyline in a future Dragon Age product. I very much hope there is more to that story. I just hope it's not implemented in a way where people who didn't make that choice have to deal with it, which they especially would if your character in DA2 is that baby grown up. Not to mention that completely gets rid of having separate origins, or the ability to play non-human characters. Plus, Morrigan would be unlikely to raise the kid as anything but a mage so the idea of the baby being the PC in a future installment is ludicrous and nearly impossible if one thinks about it for like... 10 seconds.

It's just a bad idea that alot of people seem to have latched onto.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 07 février 2010 - 07:05 .

[Gilded Age]

Playing as Godbaby in DA 2 is wishful thinking, imo. MAYBE in DLC, I would imagine. But there are storylines where there is no godbaby because the ritual was not done.

Bioware doesn't strike me as a gaming company that would impose an arbitrary canon when it's not necessary. It completely negates the goal of an RPG and an open world which is shaped by your choices. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a direct continuation in DA 2, because I honestly don't think it will happen.

Modifié par Gilded Age, 07 février 2010 - 07:09 .

[Maximus741000]

then why not allow expansion and establishment of lore take place in the obscure past? Like during one of the past Blights?

Thinking about it more makes me want to see it happen more than before. Or if it were set in the future, the child of Morrigan would have to be human since the children of humans and elves are always human, and dwarves possibly the same. It's more likely that the child appears as an NPC in it's own right.

[odiedragon]

Being set in Orlais (or, somewhere else) is fine.

Having a storyline separate from the original characters is fine.

But I for one would feel a bit (more than a bit) let down to not see our choices in DA:O have some effect on the sequel. Even if it's just in a peripheral sense. Like, I would hate to hear about King Alistair of Ferelden if in DA:O I hadn't put him on the throne in the first place.

I do have a feeling they'll find some loophole for GodBaby though... which doesn't thrill me, but I can't imagine what else Arl Forshadow's "terrible twos" would refer to.

Though I must add, I'd greatly prefer a direct sequel.  Set two years in the future would be fine, but the more that's included from DA:O the happier I'll be

Modifié par odiedragon, 07 février 2010 - 09:59 .

[KahnyaGnorc]

I would not want a sequel to be set in the past because it would restrict the choices and freedom that the player could have, since the outcomes are preordained by the histories within DA:O. Having more choices, more decision points, and more impactful decisions should, imo, be the way the games should go.

[Curlain]

I would like a direct sequel if possible, as I like epic stories spread over a number of games (or books or films etc), I find myself more invested in ongoing characters, and like to see story arcs evolving and deepening over a series of installments, one of many things I loved about BG. It seems likely it will not be a direct sequel sadly, it will still be a great game, but a series of one-shot installments doesn't really provide the wider story arcs possibly in a series of direct sequels (particularly character arcs), still we have Awakening so maybe with a series of expansions first before DA2 :-)

[nYshak]

Personally I'd like DA2 to continue the story of the original Warden. Reasons:



- if Morrigan's story is elaborated on it would be more interesting if there is an established connection between her and the "hero" already



- the more time we get to spend with "our" hero, the more choices we make, the more we become attached to said character; sequels that change the main character are common enough



- being able to somehow import your original DA:O PC into DA:"whatever" 2 would make the game unique if Bioware manages to make choices from DA:O matter to some extend

[odiedragon]

nYshak wrote...
- being able to somehow import your original DA:O PC into DA:"whatever" 2 would make the game unique if Bioware manages to make choices from DA:O matter to some extend

I can't help but agree with this statement.  The uniqueness of the franchise, were it to embrase this mechanic (discounting ME/ME2, since from a business/sales perspective that's comparing apples to apples) would draw a lot of people in.

Modifié par odiedragon, 08 février 2010 - 09:51 .

[odiedragon]

Double post

Modifié par odiedragon, 08 février 2010 - 09:50 .

[Brockololly]

nYshak wrote...

- if Morrigan's story is elaborated on it would be more interesting if there is an established connection between her and the "hero" already

If future installments of DA focus on Morrigan in any way, I totally agree with your reason above. To play as some character that in the game world isn't familiar with Morrigan while the player knows her from DAO would just kind of take you out of the experience, I think.

It might be interesting to see her reaction to someone besides the Warden, but being able to meet back up with her as the Warden from DAO would be more fulfilling, IMO.