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[Terror_K]

I'd pay for this as a DLC. I really would.



Please BioWare... put this in.

[TheSpaceHamster]

If you don't like a human + alien romance...then don't take part in it when playing. By having in the game for the player to choose (yes, choose) BioWare can make everyone happy.

[eydeeb]

probstjl wrote...



Skip to about 7:30.  I wonder why they changed it?

Maybe you forgot to read the NO SPOILERS ALLOWED text in the forum title.

[Mordigan]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

I don't care about bloody Captain Kirk frankly the alien LIs in this game make ZERO sense to me and are at the heart of things. Meaningless fanservice making them fanservice for both genders isn't a huge leap.

There is "meaningless fanservice" for both genders.  FemShep has more "Kirkitude" in ME2 than DudeShep even, because she has two "malien" love interests as opposed to DudeShe's one.

Mordigan wrote...
Right because "parts fiting." is all that matters in a romance right? And the fact that she has a bloody fever after M!Shep has sex with her tells it all.

You sound bitter.. 

Mordigan wrote...

You do indeed have a point there still doesn't mean she'd be sexually attracted to Shepard.

 
I'm not as skeptical as you.  If Tali was real and she had cute face under that mask, I'd hit it in a heart beat   She has the same body type as a human woman, so why not?

Maybe Tali feels the same way about Shepard, ever thought of that?  

I do however hope FemShep x Tali is in 3 or some DLC or something.

Seriously.....do you ever do the straight romances in these games?  Or are you only interested in the same sex ones?

[Mordigan]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Ok, wow. I don't even want to get into how you know the two species evolved in such similar ways, but if a human penis goes inside a quarian or visa versa, someone is going to die. Crassness, apologies, etc. 

You heard Mordin go on about how their saliva could make you go into anaphylactic shock, what do you think those other...fluids would do? 

Psshh..  An anaphylactic shock isn't going to stop my DudeShep from tapping some Quarian tail

And if he does die, at least he'd die with a smile on his face

[Kolaris8472]

Mordigan wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Ok, wow. I don't even want to get into how you know the two species evolved in such similar ways, but if a human penis goes inside a quarian or visa versa, someone is going to die. Crassness, apologies, etc. 

You heard Mordin go on about how their saliva could make you go into anaphylactic shock, what do you think those other...fluids would do? 

Psshh..  An anaphylactic shock isn't going to stop my DudeShep from tapping some Quarian tail

And if he does die, at least he'd die with a smile on his face

Yes, well, divulged medical risks and probability of fatality. Mission with Collectors likely to preclude any other means of death, statistically in more visceral, less pleasing methods. Done all I can.

Good hunting Commander Shephard. 

[Console Cowboy]

with both sides were recorded...why take it out? i don't really buy the "time constraints" thing.

[Homebound]

Console Cowboy wrote...

with both sides were recorded...why take it out? i don't really buy the "time constraints" thing.

Might have been a character-influenced decision.

[Mordigan]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

 So its fine for BioWare to turn her into a romance despite not planning her as such from the beginning but making her for Both Sheps is ruining her characterization.

Riiight.

I wouldn't necessarily say "ruined."  Bioware is already straining the integrity of the ME Universe by making her available to DudeShep, so why even bother to make her bi, which would add even more strain?

Also, it's not even known whether homosexuality exists amongst Quarians.  Homosexuality isn't a universal trait in sexually reproducing creatures, so there's no guarantee that Quarians can be gay/bi.

[Kolaris8472]

Just_mike wrote...

Console Cowboy wrote...

with both sides were recorded...why take it out? i don't really buy the "time constraints" thing.

Might have been a character-influenced decision.

Which would bring me back to questioning why, if you're already altering a squadmate to fanservice to a particular character, do you not realize that this is actually going to hurt the playthroughs of another type of character? I can't get into it on the non-spoiler forums, but there are a couple possibilities when it comes to Tali and they all spell out very little involvement with a Female Shephard in ME3, despite how close they became. 

[Terror_K]

Console Cowboy wrote...

with both sides were recorded...why take it out? i don't really buy the "time constraints" thing.

Especially when modders have discovered that all it would take is changing/allowing a tag and having the femshep dialogue actually recorded/present in order for it to work. The only problem beyond that is what issues it could cause for an import to ME3, which is why a mod isn't really sufficient to solving this problem and we really need BioWare to provide an official fix. If all they need to do beyond making sure it carries over to ME3 is record a couple of extra bits of dialogue from Jennifer Hale and remove the tag restriction, then I see no reason they shouldn't do it.

[tempAE0F]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Mordigan wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

 So its fine for BioWare to turn her into a romance despite not planning her as such from the beginning but making her for Both Sheps is ruining her characterization.

Riiight.

I wouldn't necessarily say "ruined."  Bioware is already straining the integrity of the ME Universe by making her available to DudeShep, so why even bother to make her bi, which would add even more strain?

Also, it's not even known whether homosexuality exists amongst Quarians.  Homosexuality isn't a universal trait in sexually reproducing creatures, so there's no guarantee that Quarians can be gay/bi.

Yet they're enough like human beings to have sex with them and be sexually attractive yet not share sexual tendencies? 

Riiiight.

Don't bother beating your head against the wall. You're right, he's wrong.

[Kolaris8472]

How would that work exactly? Wouldn't the lack of a recreational approach to sex mean she wouldn't be interested in a human Shephard at all?



Of course, to be honest that's how I always viewed Quarians until ME2, although I don't follow your approach that fanservicing one set of characters while leaving another out to dry isn't a terrible affront.

[SirGladiator]

I agree completely with most everybody else here, that the Tali-FemShep romance should've been in the game, and as sad as it is to pay for what should've been part of the regular game, I would pay for DLC if thats the way it has to be. MaleShep and FemShep players alike love Tali and asked for YEARS for her to be a LI for ME2, and yet they only made her an LI for MaleShep players, thats just not right. But if they made some DLC, particularly if it included some unique dialogue, to remedy the situation, I would happily buy it and say all is forgiven .

[Mordigan]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Yet they're enough like human beings to have sex with them and be sexually attractive yet not share sexual tendencies? 

Riiiight.

I didn't say that Quarians could never be bi/gay...... just that there's no guarantee that it exists in their species..  Despite what you may believe, homosexuality is not a universal occurrence in sexually reproducing species.

And even in humans it's relatively rare.

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Look, I feel for people playing FemSheps, but you're jumping to conclusions here. They might have made a decision that Tali's just not bi. Or maybe the voice actress didn't find it appropriate for her voice to be used in that way.

[sinosleep]

I asked this earlier and I guess it got lost in the debate but, is the dialogue from 7:30 onwards not supposed to be in the game? Cause on my completely vanilla copy of ME 2 for the PC I got ALL of those options playing a renegade female vanguard.

[Kolaris8472]

Mordigan wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Yet they're enough like human beings to have sex with them and be sexually attractive yet not share sexual tendencies? 

Riiiight.

I didn't say that Quarians could never be bi/gay...... just that there's no guarantee that it exists in their species..  Despite what you may believe, homosexuality is not a universal occurrence in sexually reproducing species.

And even in humans it's relatively rare.

I'm fairly certain its a universal occurrence in species that have sex for recreational, non-offspring producing reasons. 

[Terror_K]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Look, I feel for people playing FemSheps, but you're jumping to conclusions here. They might have made a decision that Tali's just not bi. Or maybe the voice actress didn't find it appropriate for her voice to be used in that way.

Why would Jennifer Hale have a problem with recording Femshep romance dialogue for Tali and not for Liara, Samara, Kelly and, yes, even Ashley in the original game? (romance isn't present, but the dialogue has been found).

Unless you mean Liz Sroka, but then almost all of her dialogue is the same as for Maleshep there. The only bit of romance dialogue that seems gender specific is one line where she says either "his" or "he" at one point when talking about traveling with Shepard the first time.

[Kolaris8472]

sinosleep wrote...

I asked this earlier and I guess it got lost in the debate but, is the dialogue from 7:30 onwards not supposed to be in the game? Cause on my completely vanilla copy of ME 2 for the PC I got ALL of those options playing a renegade female vanguard.

I think the paragon/renegade choices are still there. The neutral one just got changed to "Goodbye" and asking Tali about blushing or if she's suggesting anything were certainly not in my game. 

[VasQuipQuip]

Ok, you know how lesbians have sex right? Like, oral. Now, assuming Quarian women do the same thing human women do when they're doing things I can't say on these boards, there's going to be some ingestion of fluids.



Why am I trying to explain this again?

[Terror_K]

Yeah. I got the piece of dialogue with my femshep where she mentioned linking suits and got to say that I felt the same way, but there was never any way to progress it beyond that.