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[Juxtest]

What would Legion even do besides hang out with Shepard? Hes basically like Garrus. He really doesn't have anything better to do. He'll be back.

[Akrim_Drak]

Dave the Seagull wrote...

I like Legion, so I made this:

That letter is so cute. I could totally see Legion writing something like that too. Definitely one of my favorite mates in the game. Getting him so late sucked horribly though.

[DeathCultArm]

When I heard there was a Geth squadmate I was very interested, but BW dropped the ball. Legion was flat, and boring. Disappointment.

[Annihilator27]

Dave the Seagull wrote...

I like Legion, so I made this:

Lmao win, I am a legion fan. Hes my 2nd fav squad mate next to grunt. "Geth do not intentionally infiltrate"

[Lmaoboat]

DeathCultArm wrote...

When I heard there was a Geth squadmate I was very interested, but BW dropped the ball. Legion was flat, and boring. Disappointment.

Legion > you

[NeoGuardian86]

of all the new squad mates Legion is my favorite. that's why whenever they ask who we'd like to see return, i personally vote



Garrus

Tali

Legion

Liara

[RVonE]

Legion is definitely one of the characters I enjoyed a lot. It's just so frustrating that you can only pick him up right before the endgame.

[Frotality]

omg that letter is great:lol:

but legion fans have learned to communicate thru the high-speed signals of the geth, so most disscussion of him is done in the form of instantaneous telemetry signals directly between fan's brains. here is an example of a heated debate regarding legion's evolving comprehension of sentient behaviour we had a while ago:

110001101001101111010101010011000110001101010101010110101101110000101000011000011111010101
101010 010101010100111 01010110101 010101101010 10011010101 0101 00120101000 01010111010 01001
100 0101110100110101010 01010101010101 101010010 010 01

deep stuff...even had a 2 in there, if you can believe that.

[Argent Csero]

Legion was awesome. He was so...logical.







Almost like he was a machine.

[BigKahuna25]

Love the letter, and I definitely liked Legion and wish we could've gotten him sooner.

P.S. Is Shepard shooting southpaw in Legion's picture?

Modifié par BigKahuna25, 06 février 2010 - 12:07 .

[Gunner-th]

We are all Geth

[MegWithAMouth]

I really enjoyed having Legion around. He's an awesome character. I hope we get to learn more about him in ME3.

[Inverness Moon]

I demand Legion-centric DLC to make up for only getting him at the end of the game.



Legionnaires unite!

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Inverness Moon wrote...
]The geth are what they are, applying organic values of life to them would be inaccurate. Geth are software, this is explained in the codex.

Organics "souls" or personality could also be dismissed as biochemical software. 

If it can think, practice philosophy, and question what happens when it dies. I say that makes it an intelligent lifeform to be respected.

..

You also forget that organic lifeforms can also be "duplicated" in terms of memory.

[Deamon023]

Just thinking, Legion is one of many and hes Shepard commander fan #1  (stalking Shepard and wearing hes/her used armor) doesent that make all non virus infected Geth fans of Shepard commander? since they share a collective (hive) mind.

So another Geth would share what Legion experienced with Shepard commander (Legion 1.2)

[Lord Atlia]

Legion fan here, Tali and Legion need to team up for ME3 and throw a peace rock concert with Bono. There just really isn't much to talk about beyond that. Unlike DA:O the characters say surprising little if there is no romance involved and Legion doesn't have much of a personality beyond giving us a window into geth society (he is sort of the Tali (ME1) of ME2 except with less personality).

[i7206]

DeathCultArm wrote...

When I heard there was a Geth squadmate I was very interested, but BW dropped the ball. Legion was flat, and boring. Disappointment.

What did you expect?  It's a bunch of VI's networked together.  Were you expecting a personality? 

[Dave the Seagull]

Lord Atlia wrote...

Legion fan here, Tali and Legion need to team up for ME3 and throw a peace rock concert with Bono. There just really isn't much to talk about beyond that. Unlike DA:O the characters say surprising little if there is no romance involved and Legion doesn't have much of a personality beyond giving us a window into geth society (he is sort of the Tali (ME1) of ME2 except with less personality).

I for one welcome this new "Geth 8" concert.

[BigKahuna25]

Deamon023 wrote...

Just thinking, Legion is one of many and hes Shepard commander fan #1  (stalking Shepard and wearing hes/her used armor) doesent that make all non virus infected Geth fans of Shepard commander? since they share a collective (hive) mind.

So another Geth would share what Legion experienced with Shepard commander (Legion 1.2)

They don't always agree (thus the heretics) thats why they "build a consensus" you can ask Legion at the end of his mission about rewriting and he'll tell you that the programs in him are about a half and half split between rewriting and destroying the heretics so he has you choose.

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Legion can't have emotion, obviously... but you can see emotion because of his "eyebrows".



Especially when he is shocked that some of the Geth are deceiving the others, he couldn't comprehend why would they lie.

[DeathCultArm]

i7206 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

When I heard there was a Geth squadmate I was very interested, but BW dropped the ball. Legion was flat, and boring. Disappointment.

What did you expect?  It's a bunch of VI's networked together.  Were you expecting a personality? 

I expected him not ot be worthless. He was basically a Geth version of Tali. EDI had more of a lasting appeal than Legion, he was just not executed properly.

[Inverness Moon]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...
]The geth are what they are, applying organic values of life to them would be inaccurate. Geth are software, this is explained in the codex.

Organics "souls" or personality could also be dismissed as biochemical software. 

If it can think, practice philosophy, and question what happens when it dies. I say that makes it an intelligent lifeform to be respected.

..

You also forget that organic lifeforms can also be "duplicated" in terms of memory.

You misunderstand.

Legion is quite obviously sapient and most certainly intelligent. His inability or unwillingness to answer Shepard's question about why he used the N7 armor is quite telling and shows that he has some sort if illogical--most likely emotional--reason for doing that. I think this shows that being separated from the geth collective is allowing him to develop more as an individual because he is experiencing new things that the other geth aren't.

However, none of that changes the fact that geth are software only, unlike most other AI. This means it is quite possible for Legion to make a backup of himself to be restored in the event of the destruction of his mobile platform during the suicide mission. If you want to apply organic values of life to him go right head but that doesn't change canon.

That backup, if restored, would be Legion in every way that would matter to the geth.

DeathCultArm wrote...

i7206 wrote...

DeathCultArm
wrote...

When I heard there was a Geth squadmate I was very
interested, but BW dropped the ball. Legion was flat, and boring.
Disappointment.

What did you expect?  It's a bunch of VI's
networked together.  Were you expecting a personality? 

I
expected him not ot be worthless. He was basically a Geth version of
Tali. EDI had more of a lasting appeal than Legion, he was just not
executed properly.

Your opinion seems to be in the minority.

I believe Legion was quite well done, and I fully expect him to develop over time in ME3.

I also think you were one of the Legion naysayers, perhaps you just don't want to like him? :innocent:

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 06 février 2010 - 12:25 .

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

However, none of that changes the fact that geth are software only, unlike most other AI. This means it is quite possible for Legion to make a backup of himself to be restored in the event of the destruction of his mobile platform during the suicide mission. If you want to apply organic values of life to him go right head but that doesn't change canon.



That backup, if restored, would be Legion in every way that would matter to the geth.

And I go back to my earlier point, which isn't an issue of "organic values".



You lose the weight of his death or loss if it is as simple as uploading a backup. And even then, while it may behave the same it still isn't the same Legion.



Just as much as if I duplicated the memories of any organic, killed them, bred a developed clone, and uploaded those memories. I didn't bring Legion or Garrus back from the dead, I only brought their duplicate.

[Lord Badmagic]

Frotality wrote...

omg that letter is great:lol:

but legion fans have learned to communicate thru the high-speed signals of the geth, so most disscussion of him is done in the form of instantaneous telemetry signals directly between fan's brains. here is an example of a heated debate regarding legion's evolving comprehension of sentient behaviour we had a while ago:

110001101001101111010101010011000110001101010101010110101101110000101000011000011111010101
101010 010101010100111 01010110101 010101101010 10011010101 0101 00120101000 01010111010 01001
100 0101110100110101010 01010101010101 101010010 010 01

deep stuff...even had a 2 in there, if you can believe that.

01001001 00100000 01101011 01101110 01101111 01110111 00100000 01001001
00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01110010 01110101 01110011 01110100
01111001 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000
01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100101 01100001
01110010 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01101101 01100101
01100001 01101110 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001
01101110 01100111 00111111