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Liara T'Soni - This one is a tricky one for me to try and deduce, personally. Because it has two folds to it. This is what I am thinking. Let us say that the Shadow Broker is, indeed, one individual. I foresee her taking his position wants her revenge on him is through. The reason why I say this is two-fold;

1.) She's beginning to act like her indoctrinated mother - stone cold.

2.) She's nearing her matron stage. I'm thinking - if you romanced her and stayed loyal - she'll eventually mate with you and you also have the Shadow Broker on your side.

If you romanced her and cheated - you'll lose her not only as a friend, but as a very strong ally.

If you never romanced her and befriended her - I think you'll gain a great ally.

With all that's happened between ME1 and ME2 - I don't think Liara will rejoin us back on the Normandy. I think her fate is elsewhere - helping you, like she always has.




Already been confirmed she will back as a squad member in some capacity. :)



Oh...and more Miranda pics tomo for you all :)

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Well, I'm just throwing out theories, haha.



Back to Miranda!



In honor of Meg - who's currently missing out on the fun!



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I'm afraid I don't have time to read all 165 pages of comments, but I'd just like to add my vote to the Miranda appreciation thread. In ME2 Bioware have created by far the two most fascinating, in depth and believable characters I have ever come across in a video game, Miranda Lawson and Mordin Solus. Both are quite brilliant and raise this game from entertaiment to a real work of art.

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bobito64 wrote...

I'm afraid I don't have time to read all 165 pages of comments, but I'd just like to add my vote to the Miranda appreciation thread. In ME2 Bioware have created by far the two most fascinating, in depth and believable characters I have ever come across in a video game, Miranda Lawson and Mordin Solus. Both are quite brilliant and raise this game from entertaiment to a real work of art.

 
Thanks for dropping in!

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I would thunder-hit Yvonne/Miranda with the platinum-plated, rock-hard hammer of Thor.


Who so ever holds this hammer, if he be worthy....

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. And I know from the Deadpool reference earlier that I'm not the only one who will get this joke.)

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Rathias0114 wrote...

Well, I'm just throwing out theories, haha.

Back to Miranda!

In honor of Meg - who's currently missing out on the fun!

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I'm gone for one day and miss the Mass Effect avatars! Funny, Bioware! (translates to: I love you, and thank you very much. Posted Image)

I love this picture. What a good way to catch up with this thread.

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ComTrav wrote...

Irrumare wrote...

I would thunder-hit Yvonne/Miranda with the platinum-plated, rock-hard hammer of Thor.


Who so ever holds this hammer, if he be worthy....

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. And I know from the Deadpool reference earlier that I'm not the only one who will get this joke.)


That was a really off-the-wall issue. Almost as good as the time he had the Rhino as a keychain...

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bobito64 wrote...

I'm afraid I don't have time to read all 165 pages of comments, but I'd just like to add my vote to the Miranda appreciation thread. In ME2 Bioware have created by far the two most fascinating, in depth and believable characters I have ever come across in a video game, Miranda Lawson and Mordin Solus. Both are quite brilliant and raise this game from entertaiment to a real work of art.


Thanks for swinging by!

Mordin is one of my favorite characters, too...I actually started a Mordin thread around the same time I started this one. It didn't take off...but despite his lack of big thread, Mordin consistently scores at or near the top of some popularity polls. That's the power of Salarian SCIENCE!

And you're right, characters like Mordin and Miranda really force gaming to be taken more seriously. It was actually ME1 that made me start really thinking about the potential of games as a storytelling medium. I had obviously played games that have told a story before, but few have drawn me in as powerfully as ME. I think a huge part of it is the interactive element. If Mass Effect is a movie, Shepard's going to end up with whichever woman the director decides. In  ME the game, Shepard ends up with which woman you decide, or she can be a woman, or have lots of different possibilities.

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So anyways - was reading up on our lovely social group board's about how they are going to be handling squadmates and love interests in Mass Effect 3 since.. well.. some of them can die in ME2 - and here is my theory;

This game is, to be put bluntly, a cow - that EA is probably going to put as much money into in order to get the most milk out of it.

My theory is this;

Let's say you lose everyone sans one person (Because you need someone to pull you up during the suicide mission - else everyone plus Shepard dies) - should that person, who survived hell with you, be reduced to a cameo?

I think not.

I think what Bioware has planned is this - they are going to develop full dialogue and mission sequences for every character from the original Mass Effect - with the exception of those who didn't score to high on the popularity list.
In example - not many people like Zaeed.. with my theory, he'll probably be reduced to a cameo.
For the other side of the fence - let's take Miranda - who, as is being shown, is a fan favorite - will probably get the whole kit and kaboodle come ME3.

Now, I know Bioware said that they are working on Mass Effect 3 squadmates, but what I'm thinking is not fully developed characters. I think what we will be seeing are "filler" characters - people to fill the spots in for those who die.
Of course, then again, some of the people who live - and are high in popularity - might not be able to join your squad due to other situations.
Let me give some examples.

Wrex - he couldn't join you in ME2 because he is uniting the clans of Tuchanka. Come ME3 - it might be safe to say that he has succeeded in his goal and now you have a krogan army at your disposal. Is Wrex going to join your squad? No - because he has to lead his people, still.

Kaidan - I can see him as one of those "filler" squadmates. The only way I could see him being more is if you had him as a love interest. But, if you were like me, who had him as a bromance - then I don't think he'll be more than the Alliance military representative to help support the war against the Reapers. Hell, I saved his ass on Virmire, got told off on Horizon - and I got no email. Which leads me to believe he won't make much of an appearance for me in ME3.

Ashley - Same boat as Kaidan.

Liara T'Soni - This one is a tricky one for me to try and deduce, personally. Because it has two folds to it. This is what I am thinking. Let us say that the Shadow Broker is, indeed, one individual. I foresee her taking his position wants her revenge on him is through. The reason why I say this is two-fold;
1.) She's beginning to act like her indoctrinated mother - stone cold.
2.) She's nearing her matron stage. I'm thinking - if you romanced her and stayed loyal - she'll eventually mate with you and you also have the Shadow Broker on your side.
If you romanced her and cheated - you'll lose her not only as a friend, but as a very strong ally.
If you never romanced her and befriended her - I think you'll gain a great ally.
With all that's happened between ME1 and ME2 - I don't think Liara will rejoin us back on the Normandy. I think her fate is elsewhere - helping you, like she always has.

Garrus - This man's life, I think, is destined to be at Shepard's side.. love interest or not. He left C-Sec because he learned from your ideals, to be blunt - and has followed you to hell and back. This is a guy I am very positive about making a comeback in ME3. He has nowhere else to go - unless he becomes a Spectre.

Tali - I can see Tali's situation being very similar to Liara's.. in the sense of how you played her out will be critical to what she ends up doing. Her father's spot on the Admirality Board is vacant - and many people have voted for her to take his spot. I believe - if you romanced her, she'll turn down the offer and stay with you.
If you befriended her, she'll take up the offer, and you'll have a quarian fleet with you in the final stand against the Reapers.

Grunt - I really don't know what to think about Grunt. Personally, I think he would return to Tuchanka to serve his clan and help them become glorious - ultimatly becoming Urdnot's champion. Good popularity - on the fence whether or not a comeback is for sure or not.

Jack - On the same boat as Grunt for me. If she's your LI, I think she'll stay with you.. if not, then I don't think she'd stick with you. She's not the kind've person to stay with a group of people for long. Even with Miranda and Jacob leaving Cerberus - I still think she won't let her history go and will eventually leave. Highly popular though for some people, but not as many as Miranda or Tali - whether or not she'll reappear in ME3 is on the fence.

Jacob - Not sure about this guy. I think he's going to end up like Garrus, a fellow gunman who will see the end of the Reaper threat come to fruition. With his resignation from Cerberus (Which I'm assuming he did alongside Miranda) - he has nowhere else to go. I however, don't think he'd be returning as a squadmate - his popularity, or lack thereof, amongst the ME community is probably sealing his fate for him.

Legion - This is the guy I can see leading the "reformed" Geth to battle against the Reapers with Shepard. I think he fits in the same boat right now as Wrex - but with the Geth. Someone needs to lead them - and who else than the unit who fought against the Collector's with the man himself? Very high chance of returning - though as more than a cameo is unsure.

Mordin - I can easily see Mordin becoming the main scientist against the reaper threat. He has the experience and knowledge to do such. I don't Mordin will return as a squadmate, however, I do feel he will have a very flashy cameo sequence - and I personally think he'll be a guy you can go to for those "special" upgrades. I think he'l be making a reappearance.

Thane - I love this, man. He is a total bromance for me alongside Garrus. I wish he could make it into the third game, but I think he will ultimately let his disease take him - and I think his reformed son, if you chose that path, might take his spot. I know a lot of people want to see Thane live for the final game - but I personally think Thane is finally ready to accept his death, and I think he wants it. Like he said, saving the humans from the Collector's will probably be his last mission. As much as I want him in the finale, I ultimately think he will pass.

Samara - A tough one to judge. She makes an oath to you that she will help you see your mission through to the end, and after that she will depart. However, after speaking with her consistently over the course of the game - she eventually tells you that she will stay with you, which leads me to think one thing - she might be a love interest in the final game. I **** you not. She initially rejects you - but over the course of the relationship - she begins to act like she is interested - and the comment about staying with Shepard AFTER the suicide mission gives off that alarm to me. I think she might be a squadmate in ME3 - but can't be sure.

MIRANDA LAWSON - I think 165 pages of theories and love for this woman is enough for us to be sure that this amazing woman will make an appearance in the final game - as more than a cameo. She has nowhere else to go. Her father won't have her back after all that she has done - and she resigned from Cerberus. She is now bound to Shepard, which I have no complaints about. I think she will be a very key asset in the final showdown with the Reapers. I believe over the course of ME3 - we will learn more about her past and eventually given the option to take out her father, a second loyalty quest - if you will. I do believe wholeheartedly that she will make an appearance - due to not only her popularity but also because of how open they leave her story.

My theories.. since we seem to get off-topic about sex, nachos, and chocolate all the time. ;)
Agree or disagree, Miri-maniacs?


God, you're good. I agree. (Like you didn't know I would say that.) I really doubt they would just write off all of the characters they worked so hard to build in ME2. I think you're totally right about not everyone coming back. Wrex is an obvious one. Grunt is probable. As much as I hate to say it, I think you're right about Thane as well. I would love for him to live on, but it would be sort of odd for Bioware to create this storyline about him having an incurable terminal disease only for him to be cured in the following game. (Though I'm not writing off the chances of Mordin finding a cure completely.) Maybe your choices in ME1 and ME2 will decide if certain characters come back. Like perhaps if Mordin died in ME2, Thane will die in your ME3 playthrough, but if Mordin lived then he'll find a cure in ME3 and Thane will live. Just a random, probably not too likely scenario, but I wouldn't put it past Bioware.

Anyway, that's my two cents on the topic.

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Meg--did you get your laptop fixed?

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I'm not worried about the ME2 squadmates not being in ME3- provided they survived, I would think at least they will have decent cameos. Even Zaeed, arguably one of the least popular ones ( although I like him) could easily be rebuilding the Blue Suns or a new Merc outfit. I'm just worried that we won't get any more character development on any already existing squadmates like Miranda since everyone seems to think that ME2 skimped on the main plot, when IMO, doing the loyalty missions was half of the main plot of ME2.



The thing that concerns me though is that if you had told people right after ME1 came out that ME2 would have your LI reduced to cameos, Shepard would be killed off and forced to work for Cerberus and only 2 from the ME1 squad were recruitable, then people would have gone nuts. But people got used to that over time; the problem with ME3 is that if Bioware tries to force a whole new squad on us, it won't fly because ME3 is the last chapter of Shepard's story and for most people, they want to use the crew from ME2 and ME1 to finish the Reaper fight. New characters are fine and totally expected, but at least give us the option to have our ME2 squad be the ones fighting the Reapers with Shepard.



Oh and on an unrelated note, I totally have Mordin's Gilbert and Sullivan song stuck in my head...

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Tali thread OP chiming in here. While I still hate her guts, I really enjoy that you guys have started putting pictures up in your OP. Also I will give her credit in the since that her biotics just saved my infiltrator on Insanity. That is all.

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antilles333 wrote...

Tali thread OP chiming in here. While I still hate her guts, I really enjoy that you guys have started putting pictures up in your OP. Also I will give her credit in the since that her biotics just saved my infiltrator on Insanity. That is all.


I'm glad to see you stop by in between your manic race to keep up with your front-page updates!

Shouldn't your thread be locked by now? ;)

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ComTrav wrote...

antilles333 wrote...

Tali thread OP chiming in here. While I still hate her guts, I really enjoy that you guys have started putting pictures up in your OP. Also I will give her credit in the since that her biotics just saved my infiltrator on Insanity. That is all.


I'm glad to see you stop by in between your manic race to keep up with your front-page updates!

Shouldn't your thread be locked by now? ;)


Shush! It's giving us hope, too - the we will one day be an endless thread of Miranda love.

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ComTrav wrote...

antilles333 wrote...

Tali thread OP chiming in here. While I still hate her guts, I really enjoy that you guys have started putting pictures up in your OP. Also I will give her credit in the since that her biotics just saved my infiltrator on Insanity. That is all.


I'm glad to see you stop by in between your manic race to keep up with your front-page updates!

Shouldn't your thread be locked by now? ;)


Well, I hadn't eaten since 12pm yesterday. And when I was about to leave (since I have the entire thread code) it was at around 369, so I stayed so when it hit 380 and when stanley would come I would go eat.

Well at like 3:30 AM I passed out. I didn't get to eat because Stanley never came. If you go to pages 373-385, you'll probably see my posts begging Stanley to come lock it so I can make 3.0. If you do find those posts, sing what you read to the Scooby-Doo theme.

Currently my Photobucket is ****ed so a couple of awesome .gifs we had are now gone, and i'm finding a new website that won't break my bandwidth. I had about 9.35 gb's to spare, but since I put the .gifs up two days ago, I reached my 10gb limit.

But it's all for Tali and we still love her :P. More and more fanart/fiction is coming in, and tonight I have pizza so no worries!

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Nightvision91 wrote...

Rathias0114 wrote...

We need to get some discussion going about our favorite character - keep this thread on-point.

One of the things I realized about discussing Miranda is truly how little we know about her.

We know she's genetically modified.
We know her father made her to be her dynasty.
At some point, she decided to run away.
She joined Cerberus.
For 20 (guesstimation) years - she was working on getting up in ranks at Cerberus.
Then she helps Jacob.
Then she's given the Lazarus project.
Finds Shepard - Fixes Shepard.
Start of ME2.

I truly wish there was a lot more for us to talk about her.. so let's just think of random topics.

Do you guys think she started at the bottom of Cerberus? Did Cerberus seek HER out?



I honestly think Ceberus found her. In my mind it seems that Ceberus is the one to go to the people they want, and not vice versa. They are so secretive, and such that it would make since for them to go to Miranda with all the information they have.

It would make sense for them to go to her. And they certainly have the resources.

However, Miranda is also one of the most capable people my Shep has ever met. Which is to be expected as she IS the perfect woman. Her father was also a very generous benefactor for Cerberus. (Correct me if I'm wrong) I'm sure he knew quite a bit about Cerberus and wouldn't be surprised if he knew TIM personally or had at least met him the way Shepard does. We don't know who her father is exactly, but we know he is rich, powerful and vastly intelligent. All qualities TIM would be very interested in. Perhaps TIM even knew Miranda as a little girl or at least knew of her before she was even created. (A bit of a stretch, but not totally implausible.) It would explain why he has a sort of fatherly aura about him around her. But then again, maybe that was just my own interpretation. I could see a scenario where Miranda knew of Cerberus through her father, maybe even knew TIM. Perhaps she only knew of him, but it's possible she knew him personally. TIM would have to find her extremely valuable to recruit her knowing that her father would no longer support Cerberus, but maybe he was personally connected to her in an emotional way as well. So Miranda contacted him about leaving her father and TIM brought up the proposition of working for him. Or maybe she asked for the job in the first place. I'm probably way out there, but that's something I could see happening.

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antilles333 wrote...

ComTrav wrote...

antilles333 wrote...

Tali thread OP chiming in here. While I still hate her guts, I really enjoy that you guys have started putting pictures up in your OP. Also I will give her credit in the since that her biotics just saved my infiltrator on Insanity. That is all.


I'm glad to see you stop by in between your manic race to keep up with your front-page updates!

Shouldn't your thread be locked by now? ;)


Well, I hadn't eaten since 12pm yesterday. And when I was about to leave (since I have the entire thread code) it was at around 369, so I stayed so when it hit 380 and when stanley would come I would go eat.

Well at like 3:30 AM I passed out. I didn't get to eat because Stanley never came. If you go to pages 373-385, you'll probably see my posts begging Stanley to come lock it so I can make 3.0. If you do find those posts, sing what you read to the Scooby-Doo theme.

Currently my Photobucket is ****ed so a couple of awesome .gifs we had are now gone, and i'm finding a new website that won't break my bandwidth. I had about 9.35 gb's to spare, but since I put the .gifs up two days ago, I reached my 10gb limit.

But it's all for Tali and we still love her :P. More and more fanart/fiction is coming in, and tonight I have pizza so no worries!


I admire your commitment. I actually did drop into the Tali thread around that time because I was sure it was gonna get locked soon...I remember you post "OP is dead *Critical Mission Failure*", lol.

I think a lot of the other fan communities take inspiration from the Tali community in a way. Everyone knows she was really popular in the first game, and lots of people think that's why she was back in ME2 as an LI. It's like the Tali community has shown us what's potentially possible.

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ComTrav wrote...

Meg--did you get your laptop fixed?


Sadly, no. I'm borrowing one. BUT my xbox is working again so I'm not completely cut off from everything Miranda. Though I do miss you guys. Posted Image

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she kinda grew on me, but there was something off about her... she was just close enough to great to make me notice her flaws

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I admire your commitment. I actually did drop into the Tali thread around that time because I was sure it was gonna get locked soon...I remember you post "OP is dead *Critical Mission Failure*", lol.

I think a lot of the other fan communities take inspiration from the Tali community in a way. Everyone knows she was really popular in the first game, and lots of people think that's why she was back in ME2 as an LI. It's like the Tali community has shown us what's potentially possible.


I'm pretty sure I didn't eat for a good 27 hours. I think everyone in our Steam chat said I was speaking of unspeakable things. I also was apparently singing and talking about fries and A1 sauce.

I hope so, I'm not the original OP, in fact I haven't seen him in a while, but I've been around since page 13 and it's nice to have a bunch of people around me who feel the same way I do. We enjoy every minute we have of our nonstop posting (I myself have been reading more due to an essay I've been writing but I'm happy to say I've read every one of the 800+ pages. It's just a bunch of us getting together and having fun with something we love, getting really creative in the process. Read what The_KFD_Case had to say about Tali (It's so mighty I put it in the OP) and that pretty much just sums up about everyone's feelings about her.

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ComTrav wrote...

bobito64 wrote...

I'm afraid I don't have time to read all 165 pages of comments, but I'd just like to add my vote to the Miranda appreciation thread. In ME2 Bioware have created by far the two most fascinating, in depth and believable characters I have ever come across in a video game, Miranda Lawson and Mordin Solus. Both are quite brilliant and raise this game from entertaiment to a real work of art.


Thanks for swinging by!

Mordin is one of my favorite characters, too...I actually started a Mordin thread around the same time I started this one. It didn't take off...but despite his lack of big thread, Mordin consistently scores at or near the top of some popularity polls. That's the power of Salarian SCIENCE!

And you're right, characters like Mordin and Miranda really force gaming to be taken more seriously. It was actually ME1 that made me start really thinking about the potential of games as a storytelling medium. I had obviously played games that have told a story before, but few have drawn me in as powerfully as ME. I think a huge part of it is the interactive element. If Mass Effect is a movie, Shepard's going to end up with whichever woman the director decides. In  ME the game, Shepard ends up with which woman you decide, or she can be a woman, or have lots of different possibilities.


Agreed. But with Mass Effect 2 I don't think it's just potential anymore. The combination of excellent writing, superb voice acting and frankly breathtaking animation and design have made the story of Mass Effect truly cinematic quality. When Miranda asks Shepard for help relocating her sister, the combination of embarrasment and anxiety are portrayed as well as any live actor could.

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Rathias--responding to your wall of text a few pages ago...

Speculating on who will be/who won't be back is one of the great activities of this board. I actually think that's a big reason why Bioware ended ME2 the way they did--if everyone can die, who will be back? I worked so hard to make sure characters I liked survived, will all that effort pay off in ME3?



Bioware has written a few characters obvious 'outs'. Mordin is quite old by Salarian standards, so as much as I love the guy, he might not be in physical shape to be a squadmate in ME3. Thane is in a similar boat with his illness. I like Thane a lot because he's one of the only LI characters to have lots of conversations if you're not romancing him, but I think if you take away the fact he's dying, you take away part of what makes him compelling. Lots of characters can go either way. The Krogan needs Grunt, but your ARE his his battlemaster. (And can you imagine ME without a Krogan squadmate?) I'm pretty confident they'll all be back in some capacity, but the question is always, how big a role?



Bioware has lots of inputs to try to make that decision. Part of that is character popularity (which is part of the reason we have this thing of ours ; ).) Part of it is the writer's/designer's creative vision--"do I have a story I want to tell with this character, and is it best served by them tagging along with Shepard?" (The returning DAO companion for the DAO expansion hasn't won many popularity contests, even though I love the dwarf). I honestly think this is part of why Ash/Kaiden weren't back this time around--you've seen them, you know who they are, and the writers didn't have a new one for them like they did with Garrus/Tali. And I think Miranda has a lot of potential here. There's outstanding issues with her favor, and I think she'll be important in whatever role Cerberus has in ME3 or DLC.

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bobito64 wrote...

ComTrav wrote...

bobito64 wrote...

I'm afraid I don't have time to read all 165 pages of comments, but I'd just like to add my vote to the Miranda appreciation thread. In ME2 Bioware have created by far the two most fascinating, in depth and believable characters I have ever come across in a video game, Miranda Lawson and Mordin Solus. Both are quite brilliant and raise this game from entertaiment to a real work of art.


Thanks for swinging by!

Mordin is one of my favorite characters, too...I actually started a Mordin thread around the same time I started this one. It didn't take off...but despite his lack of big thread, Mordin consistently scores at or near the top of some popularity polls. That's the power of Salarian SCIENCE!

And you're right, characters like Mordin and Miranda really force gaming to be taken more seriously. It was actually ME1 that made me start really thinking about the potential of games as a storytelling medium. I had obviously played games that have told a story before, but few have drawn me in as powerfully as ME. I think a huge part of it is the interactive element. If Mass Effect is a movie, Shepard's going to end up with whichever woman the director decides. In  ME the game, Shepard ends up with which woman you decide, or she can be a woman, or have lots of different possibilities.


Agreed. But with Mass Effect 2 I don't think it's just potential anymore. The combination of excellent writing, superb voice acting and frankly breathtaking animation and design have made the story of Mass Effect truly cinematic quality. When Miranda asks Shepard for help relocating her sister, the combination of embarrasment and anxiety are portrayed as well as any live actor could.


You are completely right. I think, however, it's the presentation of ME that's cinematic in quality. The interactive element of ME2 is what makes it superior in some ways to movies. The story can take very different paths depending on your choices, and you see certain characters in very different lights and ways depending on player input.

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Also, glad screen after screen of Mirandas has replaced all those green Asari.

(Nothing against the green Asari, mind you, it was nice to do the sidequest for her on Illium and help Tzu's hope again.)

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ComTrav wrote...
I admire your commitment. I actually did drop into the Tali thread around that time because I was sure it was gonna get locked soon...I remember you post "OP is dead *Critical Mission Failure*", lol.

I think a lot of the other fan communities take inspiration from the Tali community in a way. Everyone knows she was really popular in the first game, and lots of people think that's why she was back in ME2 as an LI. It's like the Tali community has shown us what's potentially possible.


I'm pretty sure I didn't eat for a good 27 hours. I think everyone in our Steam chat said I was speaking of unspeakable things. I also was apparently singing and talking about fries and A1 sauce.

I hope so, I'm not the original OP, in fact I haven't seen him in a while, but I've been around since page 13 and it's nice to have a bunch of people around me who feel the same way I do. We enjoy every minute we have of our nonstop posting (I myself have been reading more due to an essay I've been writing but I'm happy to say I've read every one of the 800+ pages. It's just a bunch of us getting together and having fun with something we love, getting really creative in the process. Read what The_KFD_Case had to say about Tali (It's so mighty I put it in the OP) and that pretty much just sums up about everyone's feelings about her.


I remember what The_KFD_Case said about Tali--when he originally posted it it was directed at me, LOL. And a 'bunch of people getting together and having fun with something we love' should be at the core of any fan community. I think that's what haters of any character don't get--it's more fun to take joy from something then it is to get upset about it.

Sorta wondering--if you're going to be the OP for Tali Love 3.0 (if so, keep up the great work!) or let someone else take over for a well-earned rest?