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MegWithAMouth wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

I like Miranda's romance because it mutually benefits both parties involved. I get the feeling Miranda can actually help Shepard and support him. I didn't really get this impression with Jack, and I thought Tali seemed way too young for Shepard.

Anyone else find the fact that Miranda is 35 years old hot?


I couldn't agree more with this. I felt like Tali was more like a little sister than a LI. Plus, Shepard has spent his entire career(life?) taking care of other people. With Miranda, it feels like he can finally get some of that back.


Exactly. My Shepard lost his unit on Akuze and has kept his emotions carefully guarded until Miranda. He would have been devastated if she'd have died on the Collector Base (I nearly screamed when she almost dropped off that ledge).

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i found her loyalty quest to be one of the best. sure there wasn't THAT much action compared to some others but it really made you discover more about her character and who she really is behind this tough attitude she gives herself. i'm happy the loyalty quest was about her personal past life and not some random cerberus related mission. the part where you convince her to go talk to her sister...very powerful stuff there. oh and she's awesome


Powerful indeed. The part where she confronted Niket was really sad to me. Her voice got all shaky and you could tell she felt completely betrayed. Where was my Shep's hug interrupt for THAT scene, Bioware?

Also, the part where she contemplates talking to her sister and just kind of closes her eyes and tries to regain composure is really well done. I don't understand how people can see that scene and still say she's a cold b****.

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vince0488 wrote...

i found her loyalty quest to be one of the best. sure there wasn't THAT much action compared to some others but it really made you discover more about her character and who she really is behind this tough attitude she gives herself. i'm happy the loyalty quest was about her personal past life and not some random cerberus related mission. the part where you convince her to go talk to her sister...very powerful stuff there. oh and she's awesome


I agree one of the best loyalty quest. It was good to see that even though she was made to be "perfect" she didn't want that fate to be forced upon her sister.

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Her romance worked for many reason. It was layerd you had the multiple dynmaics with her father, her conflicted loyality to Cerberus and TIM, having to be second on the ship, her sister, only being used as a human, being forced enhancement. As well as seeing how driven and passionate she was about the mission. That coupled with the fact she embrced her enhancements, and didn't see them as a hinderance and didn't complain about them. She was confident, and witty, sarcastic. And her really being able to trust Shepherd and know he wanted her for her, and her enhancements, etc was realyl rewarding.

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vince0488 wrote...

i found her loyalty quest to be one of the best. sure there wasn't THAT much action compared to some others but it really made you discover more about her character and who she really is behind this tough attitude she gives herself. i'm happy the loyalty quest was about her personal past life and not some random cerberus related mission. the part where you convince her to go talk to her sister...very powerful stuff there. oh and she's awesome


It was so touching when she was scared to talk to her sister and you finally convince her. Love that little smirk she does. I also like the emotion in Shepard's voice when he tells her "Dont you want to even say hello?"

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Her loyalty quest was also awesome for her beating the tar out of the elevator. "Why can't this thing go any faster?"

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

I like Miranda's romance because it mutually benefits both parties involved. I get the feeling Miranda can actually help Shepard and support him. I didn't really get this impression with Jack, and I thought Tali seemed way too young for Shepard.

Anyone else find the fact that Miranda is 35 years old hot?


I couldn't agree more with this. I felt like Tali was more like a little sister than a LI. Plus, Shepard has spent his entire career(life?) taking care of other people. With Miranda, it feels like he can finally get some of that back.


Exactly. My Shepard lost his unit on Akuze and has kept his emotions carefully guarded until Miranda. He would have been devastated if she'd have died on the Collector Base (I nearly screamed when she almost dropped off that ledge).


Lol. When I played she was trapped under that beam and wasn't moving and I kept saying "oh God, oh God, oh God..." Then she started moving and I could breathe again. Talk about emotionally engaging!

(My unit died on Akuze too which is why I initially distrusted Cerberus and Miranda. Glad I was wrong about her, at least.)

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I find the message from her sister really improves the romance plot. It sort of gives the two of you this connection. Also, (if we assume Miranda really does read your messages), we know her sister appreciates all your help.

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just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...

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Well, I got to cook some food, be back later guys haha.

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

Anyone else find the fact that Miranda is 35 years old hot?


I like that for once I'm not dealing with an overly emotional teenager or twenty-something year old. Not every spoken word has to be soaked in emotion. I find that off-putting.

Miranda's attitude and demeanor are very appealing to me exactly because she's calm and controlled. Yet when she gets emotional, I can definitely sense the true depth of her feelings without having my ear drums pounded into oblivion.

Again, Yvonne was great.

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

I find the message from her sister really improves the romance plot. It sort of gives the two of you this connection. Also, (if we assume Miranda really does read your messages), we know her sister appreciates all your help.


Lol. I forgot about that last part of the message! That was funny and so spot on. I wonder if we'll get to hear more from her sister through Miranda or e-mail in ME3?

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vince0488 wrote...

just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...


I stopped her. I sort of wrote a bio for my Shepard (this was before ME 2) and I had it so he killed a friend of his back on Earth and always regretted it.

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vince0488 wrote...

just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...


I interuppted. I didnt want her to blame herself for killing someone out of anger. Besides Niket got his due anyway without Miranda having to be the one to pull the trigger.

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during the suicide mission there was a cutscene where you needed to hold the door before it closed. Miranda got shot in the stomach i was all WTF NOOOO!!!!! then she just stood back up and said Ready for action (or something like that...) I was still in shock, what a close one

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vince0488 wrote...

just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...


I interrupted because I knew she would regret (I was also going full paragon). I'm glad I did it. So I haven't seen the elevator scene you're talking about. Sounds sad.:(

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Never saw her get shot in the suicide mission....I'd probably rage if I did...

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

vince0488 wrote...

just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...


I stopped her. I sort of wrote a bio for my Shepard (this was before ME 2) and I had it so he killed a friend of his back on Earth and always regretted it.


Yep. Stopped her too. I felt she would regret it if she killed him, since she still had a soft spot for him and couldn't believe he would betray her. She thanked my Shepard for stopping her.

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How could you not interrupt if you're playing a paragon and/or romancing her? I wouldn't want her to have to live with the guilt of killing her admittedly only real friend that she has left. While his betrayal is pretty bad, I don't think he deserves to die over it.

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vince0488 wrote...

just out of curosity..did u guys let her kill Niket or did u interrupt? i was playing paragon but i also wanted to be on her good side so I let her do it. i felt kinda bad when she started being all emotional in the elevator after that and blaming herself and all...


Interrupt.

Bit of an RP decision for me...my Shepard's a biotic adept who got the 'with great power comes responsibility' speech at a young age, so I like RPing him as the full-on paragon, "there's always a way!", Captain America type. I felt like it was an important part of Miranda's arc, getting her to realize that her compassion for others needed to extend beyond just her sister.

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ComTrav wrote...

Because there needs to be a Miranda thread. Character I expected to hate, ended up liking.

Miranda. So, yeah, I really expected to hate Miranda. Importing my
paragon Shepard, seeing her shoot the other researcher right away, and
her initial standoffishness all had me thinking, "Yeah, sticking
with Ashley. She wrote me quite a sweet email after blowing up on
Horizon, and that little picture in my cabin is adorable." But Miranda
slowly won me over; she has a lot of great character moments. She's
caged initially by her father, and then more subtly by Cerebrus; both
her father and TiM see her as a tool, a means to an end. It's almost
like Miranda doesn't feel like she's her own person. Her line
to Shepard about how her genetic advantages made her feel LESS
accomplished was particularly touching to me (and it begged the obvious
response that it's not so much your abilities, but what you do with
them that really matters.)
And the loyalty...well, I knew the ice
queen melting was coming, but it was still well-done and interesting.
Bonus points for yelling at the elevator; she's really upset, here, how
often does someone designed and conditioned to be "perfect" react to
making a mistake? I like how it took some encouragement to get her to
go see her sister--for all Miranda had done for her, she was still
worried about allowing a human connection. And her sister's email
afterwards was sweet.
The confrontation between her and Jack was
poignant for me, because deep down, I think the two have a lot in
common. If TiM had decided to use the all-powerful Biotic as a
lieutenant, and the geneticall engineered woman as an intriguing test
subject, their roles would be reversed. Miranda's 'cheerleader for
Cerebrus' is a slowly collapsing raitonalization, that culminates she
leaves TiM on the collector base (if you choose to destroy it. Like all
dynamic game characters, Miranda requires some player input.)


Agree completely - as for some of the other remarks on this thread:

Grow up and learn to respect others opinions. It's one thing to write a constructive criticism, it's something entirely different to callously flame a character and her supporters - and that goes for every character thread out there. To borrow a quote from Jack:

"Hey, **** you." Image IPB

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Did anyone else think the love scene was more than just "hot"? I mean, it was, obviously, but it felt more intimate than any of the other ones (to me, at least). Every single other love scene had a lot of awkward dialogue or insecurity about it, but with Miranda and Shep there was none. They were so secure with each other by that point that they just kind of fell into a rhythm. I love how he kind of startles her at first and then he just holds her hips for a second. Very sensual and intimate. None of the other love scenes even came close for me.

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Miranda romantically was a medium. Jack was to overbearing and brash, and Tali was just..*shudder*. It was handled well,...the others really didn't compare to a number of reasons.

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vince0488 wrote...

during the suicide mission there was a cutscene where you needed to hold the door before it closed. Miranda got shot in the stomach i was all WTF NOOOO!!!!! then she just stood back up and said Ready for action (or something like that...) I was still in shock, what a close one


Time slowed down for me in that scene. I mean, I had her loyalty and had put in command of the fireteam (she has great leadership skills) and she got shot.  I was stunned, even after she just shrugged it off.

And then Bioware had the audacity of doing it to me again by having her under rubble after the human reaper fight. But she was fine again. Thanks to her genetic mods, I guess she's even more resilient than Shepard.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...

Did anyone else think the love scene was more than just "hot"? I mean, it was, obviously, but it felt more intimate than any of the other ones (to me, at least). Every single other love scene had a lot of awkward dialogue or insecurity about it, but with Miranda and Shep there was none. They were so secure with each other by that point that they just kind of fell into a rhythm. I love how he kind of startles her at first and then he just holds her hips for a second. Very sensual and intimate. None of the other love scenes even came close for me.


it was actually. i was surprised. but it still felt pretty awkward because of some animations lol. but i totally get your point. def the best out there.