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[Average Gatsby]

So far as I can tell, there is no difference between the two. It doesn't seem like enemies vary the type of damage they do, like no enemy uses disruptor/warp/armor piercing rounds. Did bioware simply make two of the same ability with different names and looks or am I missing something here?

[Fizzeler]

I think it has to do with resistance to tech vs resistance to biotics

In other words Shields are better when fighting biotics while barriers for engineers

Modifié par Fizzeler, 06 février 2010 - 12:11 .

[Mal_Luck]

Engineer enemies do use Incinerate and Combat Drones, Biotic enemies use Warp, never seen anyone use Overload though...

[Inverness Moon]

They look the same to me, but I believe with the Geth Shield you can evolve it to add a damage bonus.

[Average Gatsby]

Inverness Moon wrote...

They look the same to me, but I believe with the Geth Shield you can evolve it to add a damage bonus.

That's something that actually bugged me. Legion can upgrade his geth shield to give him a damage bonus. Shepard on the other hand, just gets either more shield or longer duration, same as barrier.

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

What about Fortification? Isn't it essentially Immunity? How do the 3 compare?

[matt654321]

Average Gatsby wrote...


That's something that actually bugged me. Legion can upgrade his geth shield to give him a damage bonus. Shepard on the other hand, just gets either more shield or longer duration, same as barrier.

That's simply not true. Shepard has the same evolve options as Legion - 10% extra damage or 25% extra shields.

[Average Gatsby]

matt654321 wrote...

Average Gatsby wrote...


That's something that actually bugged me. Legion can upgrade his geth shield to give him a damage bonus. Shepard on the other hand, just gets either more shield or longer duration, same as barrier.

That's simply not true. Shepard has the same evolve options as Legion - 10% extra damage or 25% extra shields.

Your right, my bad. That 10%, if it stacks with ammo damage bonuses, is probably better in the long run than 25% extra shields.

Also, you wouldn't happen to know if the Geth shield upgrades you get on your ship apply to your Geth Shield boost would you? I may start another thread on that question.

[matt654321]

Average Gatsby wrote...

matt654321 wrote...

Average Gatsby wrote...


That's something that actually bugged me. Legion can upgrade his geth shield to give him a damage bonus. Shepard on the other hand, just gets either more shield or longer duration, same as barrier.

That's simply not true. Shepard has the same evolve options as Legion - 10% extra damage or 25% extra shields.

Your right, my bad. That 10%, if it stacks with ammo damage bonuses, is probably better in the long run than 25% extra shields.

Also, you wouldn't happen to know if the Geth shield upgrades you get on your ship apply to your Geth Shield boost would you? I may start another thread on that question.

People say that it does, but I think they're just saying that off-the-cuff. I tested it myself - my Vanguard had 495 shields both with and without the Geth Shields research project (both times with the ability turned on, of course). I'm pretty sure it only boost Legion's base shields.

[Lolhaxx]

I'm pretty sure the Geth Shield upgrades specifically says to upgrade all Geth party members' shields only. Shepard is not Geth.... hopefully.

[matt654321]

Lolhaxx wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Geth Shield upgrades specifically says to upgrade all Geth party members' shields only. Shepard is not Geth.... hopefully.

It says "All party members with Geth Shield technology," which would include Shepard if he has Geth Shield Boost. However, it doesn't actually help him.

[LothAintLucky]

I assumed the Geth Shield Technology upgrades were only for Legion since they're listed in the Prototypes category and those are usually character specific.

[atheelogos]

Wrex.the.next.spectre wrote...

What about Fortification? Isn't it essentially Immunity? How do the 3 compare?

Basically they all do the same thing. But there is some lore in there as well. Geth shield is for tech classes, Fortification for soldiers, and Barrier is for biotics. But again they all do pretty much the same thing.

[Arrtis]

Barrier gives me back full shields.On my sent.

Its all the same thing.From what i can tell.

Only name and origin is different.

[Maxiric]

Barrier is a biotic power, and is affected by getting Biotic power upgrades like duration increase and cooldown reduction.



Geth Shield is a tech power and is affected by getting Tech power upgrades like duration increase and cooldown reduction.



Fortification is just a combat power, and is not effected by Tech/Biotic upgrades, so its not nearly as useful.

[Spartas Husky]

NVm, found what I was looking for.

But for the record. All shields go down just as fast, no matter the enemy firing at you. I dont think it matters whether the enemy fires at you with SMG or AR. At least from what I been trying, all go down at the same speed in my eyes.

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 22 mai 2010 - 08:56 .

[SolitaireOne]

Maxiric wrote...

Barrier is a biotic power, and is affected by getting Biotic power upgrades like duration increase and cooldown reduction.

Geth Shield is a tech power and is affected by getting Tech power upgrades like duration increase and cooldown reduction.

Fortification is just a combat power, and is not effected by Tech/Biotic upgrades, so its not nearly as useful.

Yessirree!

I used Fortification until I unlocked Geth Shield, then I traded up!  Way better graphically, boosts weapons 10% w/ lvl 4 AND takes advantage of all my Tech duration and power upgrades!   I haven't played a Biotic just yet, so Barrier hasn't yet been a draw for me.

[Ecael]

If going for pure survivability (and not weapon damage), I think Barrier would be the best.

Fortification is automatically inferior because it doesn't benefit from any bonuses.

Geth Shield boost has a +10% weapon damage upgrade.

Barrier, on the other hand, seems to activate a split second faster than Geth Shield Boost because it doesn't use an animation. I've been able to Barrier while stunned and move back from pyro-type enemies (the ones that somehow manage to surprise me) or even while getting hit-stunned by multiple Husks.

Modifié par Ecael, 22 mai 2010 - 05:39 .

[Spartas Husky]

Ecael wrote...

If going for pure survivability (and not weapon damage), I think Barrier would be the best.

Fortification is automatically inferior because it doesn't benefit from any bonuses.

Geth Shield boost has a +10% weapon damage upgrade.

Barrier, on the other hand, seems to activate a split second faster than Geth Shield Boost because it doesn't use an animation. I've been able to Barrier while stunned and move back from pyro-type enemies (the ones that somehow manage to surprise me) or even while getting hit-stunned by multiple Husks.

Since my soldier uses viper, and stays clear of baddies. GEth +10% dmg is fairly good.

Now, on the other hand, when it comes to a bit closer range, the barrier improved with 180 secs, I enjoy better.

The 25% extra barrier goes gown just as fast so, I tend with the 180 secs, which adds up to around 3:58-4:00 with upgrades, so thats 4 minutes that I can use Adranaline Rush with impunity without worrying about barrier expiring in 60 secs.

[VampireCommando]

Geth shield boost as it can be upgraded by 50%, a massive diffrence which -in my eyes- makes it much better than barrier.

[Spartas Husky]

They both have the same increase in shield power at the end of all upgrades.



Neither one of them comes out top, I checked it myself.

Now, I am not sure if Shield powers are affected by "power dmg increase" like Commando, or armor pieces.



Anyone knows if they increase the % of shield increase?



Also.



They both have the same cool down reduction, same shield increase. No difference between the two, if you have heavy GSB or heavy barrier is the exact same thing. Have not tested fortification though.



Only difference between GSB and barrier, is that their improved versions yield different results; with time active and dmg bonus, but shield increase is the same.

[MadCat221]

Roleplaying? One's biotic, the other's techy.

[Spartas Husky]

Or just get both. Improved barrier so it lasts longer, and improved geth so u get 10% dmg. If you already passed the game once or twice, just go nuts and get both bonus powers