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Do you have to send Mordin back with the crew?


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The_mango55

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Just finished my second playthrough. Both times Mordin was the only one to die, both times I had his loyalty.

The first time I tried to get him to do the tech expert thing, he died closing the doors. The second time I didn't have him do anything, and he died in the final part while everyone except my squad was holding the door.

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BigKahuna25

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You can take him to fight the boss too thats how I saved him the first time out of pure happenstance.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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No, you don't have to. You don't have to bring him to the boss fight either.



I left him behind at the door and he lived just fine.

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You don't have to. I've beat the game twice so far with independent play throughs each following their own paths on the upgrades and loyalty missions and I've never had Mordin die. I can't say with any certainty why that is.

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GnusmasTHX

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

No, you don't have to. You don't have to bring him to the boss fight either.

I left him behind at the door and he lived just fine.



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I've heard that Mordin can die holding the door for no real reason, but it's not 100%. I did nothing with him and he lived for me. As for the tech expert dying while holding the door, that depends on the fire squad leader. From what I've heard anyway.

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Yeah, he survived for me too, didn't have him be tech expert or in my team or anything. I did have loyalty, and I didn't allow him to kill his student. (I had loyalty with _everyone_. Maybe that affects it?)

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I sent Grunt, and Mordin came through fine. Only person I lost was Legion, only because his lilt was all the way up.

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If you do it right it won't matter who you fight with at the end. Pick a true tech option for the vent. Legion or Tali. Pick a true biotic for the escort, Jack or Samara/Daughter. And send a soldier back with the survivers. Jacob or Grunt. If you finished the loyalty quests and unlocked all the unique upgrades, you can take any two of whoever is left and be successful. No one will die.

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Gill Kaiser

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I was lucky, because I took him with me to the final fight without knowing that he's one likely to die. I used Mordin quite a lot, for Incinerate.

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I didn't select Mordin for any role, he was not on any of my team selections, and he survived. Details:



1. Had all loyalties, acquired all upgrades

2. Sent Legion in the tubes, Garrus first fire team. Took Miranda and Tali with me

3. Samarra for biotic shield, Miranda led second fire team. Took Grunt and Tali with me

4. Thane went back with survivors

5. Took Tali and Miranda for final fight.



No one died.

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Gill Kaiser

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Yes, but apparently Mordin can die even when people do everything right.

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GnusmasTHX

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

Yes, but apparently Mordin can die even when people do everything right.


I did everything right and he lived.

I'd rather believe that people did something wrong than that BioWare made some magical, hidden factor that makes Mordin and no other character die by chance.

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Here's a rehash of what I posted on another thread regarding squad options, team leaders, and escorts.

Regardless of your specialty role choices, in order for you to save everyone (apart from having loyalty across the board) your second team leaders *MUST* be chosen from these three:

Jacob, Miranda, Garrus.

It doesn't matter in what combination or order they are placed. You can even have any one of those three be a Team2 leader twice in a row. However, puting anyone else in a leadership role will cause inevitable deaths, regardless of loyalty and full squad equipment upgrades. If anyone else has been -completely- successful using any other Team2 leaders and escorts, feel free to add to that list.

Addendum:

Took out the part about the escort. Indeed, it seems that all it takes to protect the crew on their way back to the ship is any loyal party member.

Modifié par Forest03, 06 février 2010 - 03:15 .


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The_mango55

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Just did it again, took him with me instead of having him hold the door. Everyone lived.

I honestly think Mordin can just die randomly.

^ I don't know if the escort matters. I sent legion back and no one died.

Modifié par The_mango55, 06 février 2010 - 12:50 .


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I did everything right and he died. I had his loyalty.

I had Garrus for team leader both times, Justicar for biotic
Legion as tech and Zaeed for team escort. Took grunt and Garrus to face the reaper.

Modifié par RequiemValorum, 06 février 2010 - 12:52 .


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GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I didn't select Mordin for any role, he was not on any of my team selections, and he survived. Details:

1. Had all loyalties, acquired all upgrades
2. Sent Legion in the tubes, Garrus first fire team. Took Miranda and Tali with me
3. Samarra for biotic shield, Miranda led second fire team. Took Grunt and Tali with me
4. Thane went back with survivors
5. Took Tali and Miranda for final fight.

No one died.


I noticed you take Tali alot of places. I approve.

(because I took her everywhere too)

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I sent Samara back with crew escort, with the logic that she's good at protecting people and won't mind missing out on the final fight, and everyone lived. The only thing you need for that is loyalty, I think. Mordin was fine, and he was with the defensive line.



No offense, but you must be doing something a little off. According to the mewiki, it goes like this:



Techie - Legion and Tali live

Biotic - Samara/Morinth and Jack live

The fireteam leaders must be Jacob, Miranda or Garrus, with loyalty.

The person protecting the crew must have loyalty, other than that it can be anyone.



I followed this guide and everyone got through all right.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Yes, but apparently Mordin can die even when people do everything right.


I did everything right and he lived.

I'd rather believe that people did something wrong than that BioWare made some magical, hidden factor that makes Mordin and no other character die by chance.


I have to say I was totally surprised when people made it sound like he was hard to keep alive. On my first playthrough I screwed up a few things. I kept Grunt and Legion in their respective cages out of paranoia, I sided with Miranda over Jack and never got her loyalty. In my zeal to get Jack killed I ended up losing 3 people in my squad, and none of them was Mordin (lost Jacob, Garrus and Jack). So I am very suspicious when people make it sound like its a real effort to keep Mordin alive. I finished the game 3 times so far and haven't lost him once.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

I did everything right and he lived.

I'd rather believe that people did something wrong than that BioWare made some magical, hidden factor that makes Mordin and no other character die by chance.

Could be related to how his personal quest gets resolved.

I've let him shoot the other Salarian and deleted the data afterwards, he lived through the final mission. Maybe either of these somehow factors into it.

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Forest03 wrote...

Here's a rehash of what I posted on another thread regarding squad options, team leaders, and escorts.

Regardless of your specialty role choices, in order for you to save everyone (apart from having loyalty across the board) your second team leaders and crew escort *MUST* be chosen from these three:

Jacob, Miranda, Garrus.

eg. Team2FireLead: Miranda || Team2DistractionLead:Jacob || CrewEscort: Garrus

It doesn't matter in what combination or order they are placed. You can even have any one of those three be a Team2 leader twice in a row. However, puting anyone else in a leadership role will cause inevitable deaths, regardless of loyalty and full squad equipment upgrades. If anyone else has been -completely- successful using any other Team2 leaders and escorts, feel free to add to that list.



regardless of your listed choices Mordin still randomly dies , i reloaded a quick save to bring him with me and everyone else survived

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Did you have his personal omni-tool upgrade? I had that and he lived.

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I read that Mordin sometimes randomly dies despite having loyalty. I brought him to the last fight with the human reaper thing, and he survived. If it matters, I had his loyalty and his upgrade.

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Did everything right, had all the upgrades, and he still died.



The only reason I can think of why he did is because I took too long on the Reaper fight. My first game he survived and I stopped him from shooting. Second game he died and I let him shoot the guy.



I don't think that factors into it. Loyalty is loyalty. Its either some horrible bug or it has something to do with the length of the reaper fight.

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Zero9999 wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I didn't select Mordin for any role, he was not on any of my team selections, and he survived. Details:

1. Had all loyalties, acquired all upgrades
2. Sent Legion in the tubes, Garrus first fire team. Took Miranda and Tali with me
3. Samarra for biotic shield, Miranda led second fire team. Took Grunt and Tali with me
4. Thane went back with survivors
5. Took Tali and Miranda for final fight.

No one died.


I noticed you take Tali alot of places. I approve.

(because I took her everywhere too)


I am not a big fan of shooters (ME is the only one I will play) and I am not particularly good at them. The way I configured the team was to make things easy for me. For my style Tali's combat drone is very effective at keeping enemies occupied (i.e. shooting the drone instead of shooting me). Plus with all the interviews and pre-game media releases, I learned that there was a chance of squad treachery. Tali to be honest was the one I trusted the most, so I kept her at my side throughout the final mission. I did not romance her yet, its a work in progress on my current playthrough.

One more thing, in reference to the mewiki post. Tali/Legion for the tech role does not garantee survival. I have heard of people having them die when assigned that role. From my personal experience, the Tech role survival has far more to do with who leads the first fire team.

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 06 février 2010 - 01:13 .