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[akintu]

I don't have a problem with cheating to play the game how you want. But...it does seem quite odd to cheat in order to play on insanity in order to get an achievement. I mean, I think it is possible to like the way the game mechanics work on insanity in terms of enemy health/defense, and to cheat to make it a bit less painful. But cheating for an achievement? Weird. Why not just edit some file to give yourself the achievement?

[kaff33nd]

Hahaha... In the words of Garrus "I'd have never thought of that!".

[LxLegend]

senojones wrote...

BewareTheDrow wrote...

I used one of the coalesced.ini "cheats" in order to get rid of the ammo system. (flagged infinite ammo for all player weapons) I like Mass Effect 1's ammo system, thank you very much.

God forbid you are required to conserve your ammo Course some people just like an easier game, running around with infinite sniper ammo would just seem so bland.

Running around with infinite ammo is fun.  All that really changes is that you don't have to stop fighting to pick up some pre-placed ammo clips you  still have to reload.

Also self-righteous arguments against cheating just make the poster seem like an jack a55.

Modifié par LxLegend, 08 février 2010 - 03:16 .

[senojones]

Running around with infinite ammo is fun. All that really changes is that you don't have to stop fighting to pick up some pre-placed ammo clips you still have to reload.

It changes so much more then that, coming from an Infiltrator perspective. There is a reason weapons like the Widow have a default of 1/12, and that's because the developers want you to conserve and use the weapon when its needed most, the weapon can literally 1 shot most enemies on insanity difficulty. Also running around with infinite heavy weapon ammo would do the same thing.

To give you an example, the Reaper IFF mission, a large portion of the of that whole mission consists of normal Husks constantly attacking you. Normally it is smart to use your less powerful ammo + team abilities + environment to overcome them, while you are using the more powerful ammo for Scion Husks (the ones that constantly shoot Shockwave at you), or a Abomination Husk that has gotten to close for your own comfort. And if you really feel overwhelmed at some point, its a smart choice to take out your heavy weapon to give yourself some breathing room. If you take away this aspect, you now simplified the whole mission. You can mow down whole waves of enemies on your own with nothing but your Widow and the occasional help from your team, that is changing the whole dynamics of challenges the game provides. On the topic of looking for ammo, I will admit it can be somewhat a pain constantly checking a room for missed ammo packs, due to their small size, but making a more visible indication of where ammo is would fix that problem.

I am not trying to argue against cheating, there are legit reasons when it can become useful (getting stuck, which has happened to me). I'm arguing the concept of ammo adds something very good to the game and to the players experience.

But like I said, some people just like an easier game, that equals more fun.

Modifié par senojones, 08 février 2010 - 03:56 .

[Bryy_Miller]

senojones wrote...

I hope never. ME2 isn't hard, you don't need any of those.

I'm on my second playthrough and would like to get my paragon to 100% so Miranda is loyal again. Cheating isn't always bad.

[senojones]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I'm on my second playthrough and would like to get my paragon to 100% so Miranda is loyal again. Cheating isn't always bad.

Like I said, cheating isn't always bad, thats a situation I agree with. I'm was sitting at a little less than 80% paragon and lost my loyalty to Miranda because I thought I could get it back before my suicide mission, and yet even though I'm at 100% paragon and ready to start my suicide mission, my option is greyed out.

This is on Insanity too, so its that much more of a pain in the ass.

Modifié par senojones, 08 février 2010 - 04:15 .

[gr00grams]

You know what I find funny?

The anti-cheater comes here, says he doesn't like cheats.
Then the cheaters come in to justify cheating.

I am very, very, very, extremely anti-cheat.
Regardless, I keep that to myself.

However, to you 'cheat is good' folks, do NOT justify why you cheat. It just makes you seem less than, even worse than the 'anti-cheat' guy.

"I cheated to get paragon to 100%!!!!"
So what. I can do that legit. You suck.

"I cheated to have infinite ammo!"
You suck too.

etc. Don't back it up. If you cheat, fine. Don't give us reasons. Anti-cheaters shouldn't bash either though. Play how you like. If this was online though, I would totally want to sledgehammer anyones face who cheated. Totally pathetic, and you suck.

P.S. That was a no-holds barred response. I do not mean to offened, but if you cannot do something legit, don't do it at all.

I want you to know, that what you cheat to do, there are those of us who can and do, do it all legit. You having to cheat to do what I accomplish legit, well,.... what do you want me to say? Weak. Any excuse is just that, an EXCUSE.

Modifié par gr00grams, 08 février 2010 - 04:16 .

[Bryy_Miller]

gr00grams wrote...

However, to you 'cheat is good' folks, do NOT justify why you cheat. It just makes you seem less than, even worse than the 'anti-cheat' guy.

So we're not allowed to defend ourselves?

"I cheated to get paragon to 100%!!!!"
So what. I can do that legit. You suck.

Did you even read my post? I am on my second playthrough, right before the IFF goes online. I have tried doing it legit. 

[gr00grams]

I have solved both miranda nad jack in three playthroughs with the blue paragon options both times, to save them both.



Once was an ME1 import, twice not. Seriously, don't defend it.

I don't care if you do it, it's your game.



But yeah it's pretty freaking simple to do without.

If you can't, that's not my issue.



I do apologize for my brashness, I really honestly don't mean to offend, but I have like zero tolerance for any cheaters. It's totally pathetic regardless anything stated as 'reasons for'. You can't figure out how to do it legit, so you cheat. The end.



Aplologies.

[senojones]

Bryy_Miller, I don't think his response is really towards your problem. There's a difference between wanting to alter your game to fix an annoying aspect of loyalty and altering the game to have infinite ammo/health (which I think is what gr00grams is mainly replying to).

[gr00grams]

Just note, I don't meant to offend any.

I realize, that I am extremely anti-cheat. If you like to cheat, go nuts.



I cannot change this view I have, I'm sorry.

Acomplishments etc are that, because they require you to acomplish something.



I'm sorry, but please, if you cheat, fine. Just please don't defend it. Acknowledge your means.

[Novadove]

is looking at planet statistics for anomly on website considered cheating? because i am sick of the hours after hours of mouse scanning =(

[gr00grams]

Once you beat the game once, you need to scan perhaps 5 or so planets to have all upgrades.

Starting with 50k each will set you for the game almost. It does totally for element zero.



You need like at most 200k the others, that is with the 50k included. I think on runs 2 and 3 I spent a total of 5 minutes getting resources.



Biggest tip; Don't scan until you need to. That, and I play PC where you can 'scan' a planet in about 30 seconds with the upgrade.

[tortuga8831]

Lolhaxx wrote...
On a side note, I'm appalled at how uncivilized these forums can be compared to the original Bioware forums.

That's because now everyone has to have an account inorder to get dlc, where as before only the people who wanted to be here would have an account.

[Sgt-Berner]

I thought that this thread was about cheat options but how wrong was I.

Instead of finding how to get upgrades by the easy way to have little fun whit my game, I find a s...storm on how terrible cheating is and blabla.. instead for a cheat thread..

So... is there any cheats like the ini file or in that order?

[Shizly]

senojones wrote...

I hope never. ME2 isn't hard, you don't need any of those.

It's for fun, not for completing the game cause you can't to it on Easy. I did cheats sometime's with the console, it's fun to play Garrus or heavy unlimited bullets with the Spectre rifle's. That's why there are cheats.

I didn't find anything in the .ini, but I really didn't search for it. Only quick scanning. And on google I can't find anything. I think the only way is with trainers.

Modifié par Shizly, 08 février 2010 - 08:34 .

[ShadowPlay 14]

Personally I think that if you can finish up the game, without much of a problem, then why not cheat? It alters the experience for a second (or fifth, iin ME's terms) playthrough, adds a little more replayability to it, and sometimes it can be damn funny. Just putting that out there, no need for hate.

[senojones]

Its a personal opinion of what cheating is, nothing more, my intention wasn't to offend. There is a difference between some of the perspectives people have posted.



Key words like 'god mode' or 'infinite ammo' are things what my opinion was aimed towards, with the intention of simplying the games first time experience, which were both in this threads title.



If you are capable of beating the game legit on all difficulties, and only have the intention of creating a different experience for your 5th new game or trying to make a quick fix to a problem with your game, then I have no problem with that, nor was my comment ment towards you.



I appologize for not being so clear

[ItsFreakinJesus]

Cheat codes were made to enhance replayability. Console commands can enhanced replayability. I don't see what the problem is. The experience is only degraded if someone cheats on their first playthrough. On your second, third, fifth, or tenth playthrough, it doesn't do anything but maintains that people continue to have fun with the product they purchased.

[kallikles]

gr00grams wrote...

You know what I find funny?

The anti-cheater comes here, says he doesn't like cheats.
Then the cheaters come in to justify cheating.

I am very, very, very, extremely anti-cheat.
Regardless, I keep that to myself.

However, to you 'cheat is good' folks, do NOT justify why you cheat. It just makes you seem less than, even worse than the 'anti-cheat' guy.

"I cheated to get paragon to 100%!!!!"
So what. I can do that legit. You suck.

"I cheated to have infinite ammo!"
You suck too.

etc. Don't back it up. If you cheat, fine. Don't give us reasons. Anti-cheaters shouldn't bash either though. Play how you like. If this was online though, I would totally want to sledgehammer anyones face who cheated. Totally pathetic, and you suck.

P.S. That was a no-holds barred response. I do not mean to offened, but if you cannot do something legit, don't do it at all.

I want you to know, that what you cheat to do, there are those of us who can and do, do it all legit. You having to cheat to do what I accomplish legit, well,.... what do you want me to say? Weak. Any excuse is just that, an EXCUSE.

A simple suggestion: if people do something that doesn't affect you or anyone else in any way, shape or form whatsoever, mind your own damn business. Nobody is interested in hearing your opinion on how they "should" play games, watch movies, eat sandwiches, take showers, read books or sleep.

As for the "you suck" comments...

It's a game. Not real life. Even if you were the greatest ME2 player in the history of mankind, it would still mean less than the penny in your pocket. Playing ME2  won't make you rich, it won't get you laid, and it won't earn you friends. It's entertainment. Feeling superior because you think you're good at it is like feeling superior because you think you're good at watching South Park.

[Sgt-Berner]

Do I have to remind you all that this thread is for cheat options?

I will ask again.

Is there any form of ini cheat, console cheat option or any form of cheat except a trainer?

Anyone know of any of the above? if not..don`t bother write your opinion about cheating or no cheating at all.

[BewareTheDrow]

senojones wrote...

BewareTheDrow wrote...

I used one of the coalesced.ini "cheats" in order to get rid of the ammo system. (flagged infinite ammo for all player weapons) I like Mass Effect 1's ammo system, thank you very much.

God forbid you are required to conserve your ammo Course some people just like an easier game, running around with infinite sniper ammo would just seem so bland.

God forbid others are allowed to have opinions. I don't like the ammo system. You do. Leave it at that and shut it.

[kallikles]

Sgt-Berner wrote...

Do I have to remind you all that this thread is for cheat options?
I will ask again.
Is there any form of ini cheat, console cheat option or any form of cheat except a trainer?
Anyone know of any of the above? if not..don`t bother write your opinion about cheating or no cheating at all.

The .ini was already mentioned on the first page of this thread.

[Sgt-Berner]

kallikles wrote...

Sgt-Berner wrote...

Do I have to remind you all that this thread is for cheat options?
I will ask again.
Is there any form of ini cheat, console cheat option or any form of cheat except a trainer?
Anyone know of any of the above? if not..don`t bother write your opinion about cheating or no cheating at all.

The .ini was already mentioned on the first page of this thread.

I know it was mentioned.<_<
But there is no response to that query.

[kallikles]

Sgt-Berner wrote...

kallikles wrote...

Sgt-Berner wrote...

Do I have to remind you all that this thread is for cheat options?
I will ask again.
Is there any form of ini cheat, console cheat option or any form of cheat except a trainer?
Anyone know of any of the above? if not..don`t bother write your opinion about cheating or no cheating at all.

The .ini was already mentioned on the first page of this thread.

I know it was mentioned.<_<
But there is no response to that query.

It wasn't a query, it was a hint on where to look.

But anyway:

http://social.biowar...ect/1856/#files

Enjoy.