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ERJAK2 wrote...

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That has to be a joke...That'd be awful....and impractical. They can't correctly implement six corretly, and you want them to try everyone...


Just one. that's it. Take Kelly, Liara, and Ashley/Kaiden out if you have to. All I want is one.



All YOU want. Screw how that effect the character, or how they have the change the character. BW should go out of their way to alter a character to YOUR liking...sure. If they did that, you and countless other whould just say it's too boring, and mean, or not pretty enough or something else.

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Lmao, I couldn't give a rat's arse if someone is bi, I'm not against that, it's a waste of my time to feel that way personally. I just think it's annoying and stupid to think like it's such a calamity if there isn't one, sort of like the OP is feeling. Bioware wanted to make them straight, then ok.

What is the huge deal? It's not like they were afraid of anyone, they obviously just made DA with gay relationships galore in it, so pretending like they're cowering back because of public backlash or something is a vain argument. They wrote the characters to be that way, then that's how they'll be. This is not difficult to understand.


What's difficult to understand is how vehemently you try to shoot down somebody saying that they simply want a lesbian relationship.

You try to argue that it's not realistic for there to be multiple bisexual women on the same ship when BioWare already has 3-4 bisexual women on the ship. 3-4 is okay for you, but 6 would suddenly be so unrealistic as to warrant multiple rants on the forum. And that's keeping in mind this is a video game.

So, back to my original post to you, what is your problem?

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The problem is this:



There's a pool of potential bisexual women that could have been a romance option for Female Shepard. Bioware picked none of them for her LI's.



There's a pool of potential straight men that could be romance option for Female Shepard. Bioware picked three of them for her LI's.



Some people, understandably so, think this is unfair.

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tmp7704 wrote...

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Jack never says she's straight either... at least not in my game.

She does say as much eventually. (when you exhaust the standard dialogue options) Basically to the effect she thinks Shepard keeps coming to talk to her because she's "member of all-girls club" but Jack isn't so Shepard can stop wasting their time.


She says that she's not a "girl's club kinda person" which to me says she's not a friendly share your feelings person. 

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CarolSephard wrote...
Samara and Morinth are asexual


Asari are NOT asexual. :pinched:

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Samara and Morinth are asexual, Jack and Kelly are bi. But you can't have a relationship with any of this characters. OP said he wanted someone to be bisexual, not all the galaxy.


How can Morinth be asexual? She lures you to her apartment with promises of sex? And Samara's had three children. I don't think this word means what people think it means.

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ERJAK2 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Jack never says she's straight either... at least not in my game.

She does say as much eventually. (when you exhaust the standard dialogue options) Basically to the effect she thinks Shepard keeps coming to talk to her because she's "member of all-girls club" but Jack isn't so Shepard can stop wasting their time.


She says that she's not a "girl's club kinda person" which to me says she's not a friendly share your feelings person. 


I took it the same way as you.  My Shepard didn't flirt with her at all, so why would she have to stop her advances?

Jack just isn't a 'let's be bestest girlfriends and go to the mall shopping for new shoes and stay up late talking about boys' kind of gal.

Modifié par jlb524, 06 février 2010 - 04:54 .


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DeathCultArm wrote...

ERJAK2 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

That has to be a joke...That'd be awful....and impractical. They can't correctly implement six corretly, and you want them to try everyone...


Just one. that's it. Take Kelly, Liara, and Ashley/Kaiden out if you have to. All I want is one.



All YOU want. Screw how that effect the character, or how they have the change the character. BW should go out of their way to alter a character to YOUR liking...sure. If they did that, you and countless other whould just say it's too boring, and mean, or not pretty enough or something else.


Introduce a new character, use one of the DOZENS of established ones, give Liara more romance based lines, add content to Kelly's romance, anything. It was in the first game, why is it not in this one?

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Dammit..Miranda should've been blonde, and had bigger boobs,and she shoul've been a nympho, and been BI, and a dominatrix. Yeah BW should cater to my outlandish demands as well!

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Isn't kelly bi-sexual? Should have been a full romance imo.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Isn't kelly bi-sexual? Should have been a full romance imo.


She pretty much is a full romance. She just doesn't count towards the paramour achievement (she's not a squadmate), and she doesn't have a really cheesy "sex scene" where they fade away before anything even starts.

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This seems to come up far more often for female to female romance then it does for male to male romance.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

What's difficult to understand is how vehemently you try to shoot down somebody saying that they simply want a lesbian relationship.

You try to argue that it's not realistic for there to be multiple bisexual women on the same ship when BioWare already has 3-4 bisexual women on the ship. 3-4 is okay for you, but 6 would suddenly be so unrealistic as to warrant multiple rants on the forum. And that's keeping in mind this is a video game.

So, back to my original post to you, what is your problem?


Can you comprehend anything I'm saying? I said I don't CARE if there are bisexual characters, don't care. I don't care if someone wants a bi relationship. Big deal, if they want that, fine. Can you dispute what I just said? I said:  It's not like they were afraid of anyone, they obviously just made DA
with gay relationships galore in it, so pretending like they're
cowering back because of public backlash or something is a vain
argument. They wrote the characters to be that way, then that's how
they'll be. This is not difficult to understand.

Is there anything wrong in that little paragraph? I'm not shooting down anyone, I'm stating the obvious facts. The writers didn't make them to be bi, that's all there is to it. But hey, I have a problem right? Thanks doctor.

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DeathCultArm wrote...

Dammit..Miranda should've been blonde, and had bigger boobs,and she shoul've been a nympho, and been BI, and a dominatrix. Yeah BW should cater to my outlandish demands as well!


She was intended to be Blonde, had as big a boobs as the outfit would allow, she might be a nympho in her free time, she may or may not be bi, she has a black leather outfit in heals that she wears to combat.

Your demands are met, can we work on mine?

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Isn't kelly bi-sexual? Should have been a full romance imo.


She pretty much is a full romance. She just doesn't count towards the paramour achievement (she's not a squadmate), and she doesn't have a really cheesy "sex scene" where they fade away before anything even starts.

Really? I just wished there were more dialogue choices and the romance being a little deeper. Felt like a fling to be honest.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Isn't kelly bi-sexual? Should have been a full romance imo.


She pretty much is a full romance. She just doesn't count towards the paramour achievement (she's not a squadmate), and she doesn't have a really cheesy "sex scene" where they fade away before anything even starts.


She's actually pretty shallow, the consort gets about the same amount of romance related dialogue.

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shinobi602 wrote...

Is there anything wrong in that little paragraph? I'm not shooting down anyone, I'm stating the obvious facts. The writers didn't make them to be bi, that's all there is to it. But hey, I have a problem right? Thanks doctor.


Did you completely forget what I said to begin with? You problem seems to be with people who voice their opinion about wanting a female Shepard romance with, say, Tali.

And they did make Jack, Samara, and Morinth bi. They simply didn't make them romance-able to females.

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ERJAK2 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Dammit..Miranda should've been blonde, and had bigger boobs,and she shoul've been a nympho, and been BI, and a dominatrix. Yeah BW should cater to my outlandish demands as well!


She was intended to be Blonde, had as big a boobs as the outfit would allow, she might be a nympho in her free time, she may or may not be bi, she has a black leather outfit in heals that she wears to combat.

Your demands are met, can we work on mine?


*sigh*...Why I just want to know why, oh WHY in a game where the romances are so crappy...you care so much about who it consists of, I am genuienly curious, b/c it makes little sense to me.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Isn't kelly bi-sexual? Should have been a full romance imo.


She pretty much is a full romance. She just doesn't count towards the paramour achievement (she's not a squadmate), and she doesn't have a really cheesy "sex scene" where they fade away before anything even starts.

Really? I just wished there were more dialogue choices and the romance being a little deeper. Felt like a fling to be honest.


It was a fling!!  <_<

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ERJAK2 wrote...

She says that she's not a "girl's club kinda person" which to me says she's not a friendly share your feelings person. 

Maybe; it didn't really feel to me this way though given Jack is otherwise very direct in her speech so i'd rather expect to hear from her she wasn't looking for a friend if that was the case, plus that dialogue occurs at the point where otherwise romance would start.

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Naltair wrote...

This seems to come up far more often for female to female romance then it does for male to male romance.


That's because it was in the first game and the absence is glaringly obvious because of it. If it hadn't no one would have cared.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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Samara and Morinth are asexual


Asari are NOT asexual. :pinched:


Sorry, i meant "they doesn't care about gender" but they don't see themselves as bi ( I think) hahaha. I'm spanish so I don't know if there's a word for that. If so, how could they be called? :happy:

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ERJAK2 wrote...

She's actually pretty shallow, the consort gets about the same amount of romance related dialogue.


What? Not even remotely close. Kelly has specifically flirty dialogue after almost every story mission. Sha'ira doesn't say a damned thing about romance or sex in her dialogue. She tells Shepard to "close her eyes" and nothing else is ever said that even resembles romantic dialogue. Unless you count her saying she'd be "grateful".

Kelly has 100x more romantic content.

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Bioware can't please everyone, thus they design for the majority
Male Hetero playing a male shep, the only character I like is Tali - para shep, makes sense
Mainly due to the background, the character, and Liz's ability to portray emotions and tone/inflection without a face to show it is awesome - but that's just me
They have the 3 types on either side
Nice - Tali/Thane
Neutral - Miranda/Jacob
"Bad boy" - Jack/Garrus (Why Garrus is a renegade badass by default when my Shepard was like "Don't roll like that Garry, go apply for Spectres again!, but anyway)

I guess to appease everyone, they coulda made Kelly a more indepth choice for either sex rather than a bit of flirting then some alone time at the end (but i mean come on, she dances for you, omg), she's a great character and I really hope she's around for ME3 - seriously, she wasn't even an interest for my Sheppy, but seeing her facemelt traumatised me terribly

Would female sheps have preferred someone like Joker as an option? I can't really see Seth Green doing that seriously (wouldn't be surprised if they did approach him... hello making EDI jealous after she becomes more aware!), but he seems like a character that could make for some entertaining conversations
Who knows, maybe Bioware will add DLC characters to make everyone happy! Add some Hanar to the game.... even to the crew.... even as an option!
"This one is going to rock your world"

Modifié par AussieLokken, 06 février 2010 - 05:02 .


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How was it in the first game? Lirara isn't a woman thus no lesian sex...thus...WTH?