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[Sarah1281]

I've had that with 'okay, there's really nothing more to say' feeling when it comes to one-shots but not with chapter stories (except for 'Run That By Me Again?' but that doesn't really count as it's a story of one-shots). For me, if it's not at least 3K then it doesn't matter if I have to reach for something to say or add another paragraph of introspection to get it up to that length, I have to get it there or it just won't feel finished. That's just my own quirk though.



If it's at least 1-1.5K then it can probably stand on its own as a chapter but anything less could probably just be added to the beginning of the next chapter.

[DreGregoire]

Thankies for the responses. I just realized after you all's help what I've been doing. Heh. This is a story book not a paper for college hahahah. *hugz all* Puts on the reverse jets and starts anew.

[Gilgamesh1138]

Chapters are as long as long as they are. Don't worry if they are long or short. I have super long ones and short ones.

[Gilgamesh1138]

Okay I am really excited by my next arc in my epic, but I am so tired. Someone, slap me!

[DreGregoire]

*a large slapping sound fills the forum because a person can't pass up that offer*

[Miri1984]

You know, I really hate living on the other side of the world to everyone. I miss out on good conversations .

[Sarah1281]

Has anyone ever gotten a review response that made them stop reading a particular story?



A while back there was the Star Wars author who wrote epics about Padme and Anakin and after reading a few of them I noticed how EVERYONE seemed to like them and always commented on how 'remarkable' they were. It wasn't like the characters were even Mary Sues, either, just that no one who wasn't evil/realized later that they were mistaken/or shown clearly to be wrong ever disliked them no matter how brief their appearance was. I asked the author why this was the case and got a really snippy reply about how she didn't want to add in pointless characters that disliked them and how it was her story so she could do what she wanted and if I didn't like it I could go read something else.



Which I did.



Anything like that happen to anyone else?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Miri - I hear you! I just saw the thread explosion XD



re: Chapter Length - Speaking personally, I've read (and writte) stuff where the chapters were huge (25k was the biggest I think) and stories where they hovered above or below 1k a pop, and I've enjoyed both. My only rule was keeping length relatively consistant throughout the story so people get to know what to expect. My DA fics (except for a one shot) have been 2-4k in length per chapter. I think they would be longer if I had more time to write during the week. As it is, they are short for my convenience and desire to get at least one chapter out fairly frequently.



re: the whole shame of fanfiction stuff, I'll get back to that once I wake up after a good hot shower.

[DreGregoire]

Zyanic wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

I think that's the biggest problem I have; worrying that sharing my style will reveal to others that I am not worth their time or that they will mock or downgrade me.

So I just skirt around this board because I don't write proper grown up stuff like everyone else does but This above, Is so much how I feel about sharing stuff that I had to jump in and go "THIS! THIS! THIS! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!"

Um...please continue I'll just go back to under my rock.

*borrows a red-bearded dwarven companions two handed axe to crack the rock in pieces so you can't hide anymore*

[ArawnNox]

DreGregoire wrote...

Zyanic wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

I think that's the biggest problem I have; worrying that sharing my style will reveal to others that I am not worth their time or that they will mock or downgrade me.

So I just skirt around this board because I don't write proper grown up stuff like everyone else does but This above, Is so much how I feel about sharing stuff that I had to jump in and go "THIS! THIS! THIS! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!"

Um...please continue I'll just go back to under my rock.

*borrows a red-bearded dwarven companions two handed axe to crack the rock in pieces so you can't hide anymore*

I lurk this particular thread because I'm afraid of whatever I write ending up getting lost in the sea of fics.
Despite the fact that I started writing one the other night.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Ok, so I've been writing game-based fanfics since before FF.Net existed, before we even had an internet connection and before I knew what I was doing was called 'fan fiction'. They were pretty crappy, but I was young. Usually it was writing myself (yes, self-insert) and a group of friends into a game. I wrote them on A4 lined paper and drew pictures (also crappy)  to go with them. My parents knew. My siblings knew. Heck, my brother even read them and started writing fanfics of his own for a while. I wrote them at home and at school and put them on little shelves with other student-written stuff for all to see.

I was blissfully ignorant of any negative connotations associated with fan fiction for a great number of years. I even submitted a piece as an assignment in university and got a pleasing mark for it. My parents even read Star Wars novels (essentially fan fiction, although the writers actually get paid for it. I must be in the wrong genre...).

It was actually *gamers* who first started making me feel like I should be ashamed of fan fiction. It wasn't as simple as them saying 'Why not write something original?'...I think my favourite term was 'Writing fan fiction is like masturbating to someone else's fantasies.' Yay. It never stopped me writing, but at some point I stopped saying 'fan fiction' whenever people asked what I was writing, unless I thought they'd understand the answer.

And so I love these little oasisisis... *checks dictionary* oases(?) of creativity adrift in the internet, where people 'get it'. <3

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

ArawnNox wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

Zyanic wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

I think that's the biggest problem I have; worrying that sharing my style will reveal to others that I am not worth their time or that they will mock or downgrade me.

So I just skirt around this board because I don't write proper grown up stuff like everyone else does but This above, Is so much how I feel about sharing stuff that I had to jump in and go "THIS! THIS! THIS! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!"

Um...please continue I'll just go back to under my rock.

*borrows a red-bearded dwarven companions two handed axe to crack the rock in pieces so you can't hide anymore*

I lurk this particular thread because I'm afraid of whatever I write ending up getting lost in the sea of fics.
Despite the fact that I started writing one the other night.

If you end up posting it, I hope you get a few readers. There are people who will read and review if you ask really nicely, but yes, it's daunting. If you don't get a great response, don't let it discourage you. And always remember that less than 10% of your readers are likely to write a review, whether they like it or not.

[Miri1984]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

was 'Writing fan fiction is like masturbating to someone else's fantasies.' 

Um... what's wrong with this? Some people have GOOD fantasies... *ahem*.

On another note - Neil Gaiman wrote something that I found pretty relevant and others who, like me, get all paranoid and guilty about not posting chapters regularly, might find reassuring:

Entitlement Issues

[Sarah1281]

Oh, I just realized who Neil Gaiman was! I love 'Snow, Glass, Apples'!

[SurelyForth]

Miri1984 wrote...


On another note - Neil Gaiman wrote something that I found pretty relevant and others who, like me, get all paranoid and guilty about not posting chapters regularly, might find reassuring:

Entitlement Issues

This is seriously one of my favorite things ever, and is something I find myself mentally referencing a lot, for various reasons.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 09 août 2010 - 12:42 .

[DreGregoire]

Miri1984 wrote...

On another note - Neil Gaiman wrote something that I found pretty relevant and others who, like me, get all paranoid and guilty about not posting chapters regularly, might find reassuring:

Entitlement Issues

Great Article thanks for sharing it.

[Sarah1281]

SurelyForth wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...


On another note - Neil Gaiman wrote something that I found pretty relevant and others who, like me, get all paranoid and guilty about not posting chapters regularly, might find reassuring:

Entitlement Issues

This is seriously one of my favorite things ever, and is something I find myself mentally referencing a lot, for various reasons.

Yeah, there have been times (I had to study for a difficult final or needed time off to deal with graduation) when I really didn't appreciate being pestered to update or when I've gotten sick of one fandom and started in on another to have people from the onld one badgering me about going back to it. It's seriously not fun and reviewers can sometimes get very entitled. 'Oh, I don't play DA so you need to start writing about something I'm familiar with!'

[tmp7704]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

'like masturbating to someone else's fantasies.'

I'd guess the person who said that didn't discovern porn, yet.

[DreGregoire]

Okay now I'm feeling like writing some more instead of crying over a fanfic I was reading. LOL. My husband is going to come in here any minute and think something is wrong with me. And I'll be like "bbbbut Alistair and...." *sniff sniff.* LOL

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Miri1984 wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

was 'Writing fan fiction is like masturbating to someone else's fantasies.' 

Um... what's wrong with this? Some people have GOOD fantasies... *ahem*.

On another note - Neil Gaiman wrote something that I found pretty relevant and others who, like me, get all paranoid and guilty about not posting chapters regularly, might find reassuring:

Entitlement Issues

Hah, I suppose at the time I just didn't appreciate the comparison.

Nice link. I can't say I stress about disappointing readers by being tardy...general opinion seems to be that people prefer to wait rather than get a rushed result. I just like frequent updates because I feel like it gets me in a good groove.

I also want Neil's levitating cat.

[Miri1984]

Neil is just great. Only found out through Twitter that he was in Australia this week. I really should get my news from more places than John Stewart, Stephen Colbert and the bioware forums...

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Yeah, I just got my hands on 'Where's Neil when you need him?' which is a CD of Gaiman-inspired songs. I've been listening to this track pretty regularly...

[Gilgamesh1138]

I follow him on twitter. Love Mr.Gaiman, and "Snow Glass Apples" is one of my favs. Thanks for the article Shadow.



@Shadow, like you I too was writing (crappy) fanfic before there was an internet or an FF.net sight. ROFL.

[Sarah1281]

That's dedication. It honestly never occured to me to actually write anything down until I realized I could share it with others. The whole 'write for yourself' thing's kind of lost on me, I'm afraid.

[Gilgamesh1138]

I do write for myself, but I am addicted to reviews, posts, and the stats (which are the suck low right now) on FF.net. LOL!