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#4251
sabreene

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Undergrad honors. I'm writing it on... the witch, wizard, and magician figure in Shakespeare.
I'm kinda embarrassed to admit that.


You are in good company. Dame Frances Yates was knighted for her research into Renaissance occultism, and you might find her "The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age" a good source.  It's been a few years since I read that, but I believe she goes into some length discussing Prospero.  It *is* rough reading if you're new to the history of the occult, though.  This was my introduction to the subject - it's rather short and quite readable, and I think I got ahold of it sometime near the end of my undergrad years.  Definitely recommended to anyone interested in medieval and Ren magic.

(And totally unrelated, I'll pimp Ginzburg's "Night Battles" because it's  just... so... totally this perfect minature study of an isolated and unique community, and how it changes into the mainstrain.  If you've ever read Guy Gavriel Kay's "Tigana," this is where all the stuff about the benandanti comes from.  I am possibly the only person who read "Night Battles" first and then had someone say, "Benandanti? Are you reading Kay?  If not, then you should!")


I second that pimp! :P Ginzburg's Night Battles is wonderful, and if you read it first, and then read Tigana it will give you fuller insight into the benandanti. Tigana is one of my favorites of his, I just finished it last week (again for the umpth time). Your rarity is still intact -- I read Tigana first, then picked up Night Battles since it sounded like the benandanti, and then had to read Tigana again, after that.

#4252
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When I did some teaching later on, I loved having adult students. They were so much more focussed and self directed than your typical undergrad.


Word.  I was a traditional student, but one of those boring in-bed-by-ten, up-for-7 am-labs, overachieving studious sorts.  (Except Fridays, when I went out, not to bars, but to play RPGs or Magic: The Gathering. Or SCA events on Saturdays.  Geeeeeek.)  We occasionally were subjected to group projects as engineers, and aside from my one same-age overachieving buddy, I greatly, GREATLY preferred to work with the nontraditional students.  They were there to learn, and they learned by doing, and they had real-life experience with teamwork and deadlines.  The younger ones seemed to think that it was okay to do nothing, secure in the knowledge that Buddy and I would move mountains by ourselves to get the grade.  <_<

Katherine and Charles, wherever you are - you rocked!  I still remember them both, eleven years later.

#4253
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Corker wrote...

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Undergrad honors. I'm writing it on... the witch, wizard, and magician figure in Shakespeare.
I'm kinda embarrassed to admit that.


You are in good company. Dame Frances Yates was knighted for her research into Renaissance occultism, and you might find her "The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age" a good source.  It's been a few years since I read that, but I believe she goes into some length discussing Prospero.  It *is* rough reading if you're new to the history of the occult, though.  This was my introduction to the subject - it's rather short and quite readable, and I think I got ahold of it sometime near the end of my undergrad years.  Definitely recommended to anyone interested in medieval and Ren magic.

I have the Yates book on my desk right now, actually.  Along with Melbane's Renaissance Magic and the Return of the Golden Age.  I'll definately check the other one you recommended out, though.

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OOoooOO, haven't seen the Mebane before. Reading the review, it'll be more useful to you than the Kiechhefer. He's a sort of soup-to-nuts overview, everything from amulets to unguents, and more medieval than Renaissance. I think it's a very interesting little book, but I don't know if it has as much on Agrippa, Paracelsus, and the other philosophers as the Mebane apparently does.

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The Mebane is VERY interesting so far. I ended up splurging and buying a copy since I suspected it would be a book I'd reference repeatedly and checking it out from the library that long would be a pain, so far it seems I was right. It helps that, so far, I've read all the plays he talks about, and a lot of the philosophers.

I find the way the three major playwrights of the era treated magic so differently to be fascinating. I know I couldn't compare/contrast all three in an undergrad thesis- there's just WAY too much there to cram into 40 pages, but I suspect that may become the basis of my PhD. I have a huge history-crush on Marlowe, though. HUGE. He was like an Elizabethan literary genius and James Bond all rolled up into one adorable live-fast die-young package!

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Just wanted to pop in and thank everyone who told me to have patience and wait for my betas. One's gotten back to me now with GREAT stuff and I'm so pumped up and jacked up now... sooo close to finally unveiling the first chapter, once it gets tweaked a bit. Posted Image
*sigh* Work cannot end soon enough so I can go home and write some more. I'm so wired... I was half-tempted to call in sick today and stay home writing instead! lol Probably shouldn't start down that road... Posted Image

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Are hits back up or is it just me? School getting out for the summer, everyone cramming their reading in before the next semester starts up? lol It's kind of fun to watch stats jump up over lunch break....

#4258
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Mine are a little. Not much, but that's understandable since I haven't updated my big hit-getting story in a few days and have been focusing on my new one instead.

Damn you Duncan, release my muse!

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Sandtigress wrote...

Are hits back up or is it just me? School getting out for the summer, everyone cramming their reading in before the next semester starts up? lol It's kind of fun to watch stats jump up over lunch break....

Are they? That's excellent news since I plan to update today. Posted Image

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Sandtigress wrote...

Are hits back up or is it just me? School getting out for the summer, everyone cramming their reading in before the next semester starts up? lol It's kind of fun to watch stats jump up over lunch break....


Oh, they are back up. This chapter has gotten almost as many hits in one day as the last chapter has in six.

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SurelyForth wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Are hits back up or is it just me? School getting out for the summer, everyone cramming their reading in before the next semester starts up? lol It's kind of fun to watch stats jump up over lunch break....


Oh, they are back up. This chapter has gotten almost as many hits in one day as the last chapter has in six.


Yeah, my new chapter has gotten as many hits half-way through the day as I did all day last week.  The daily update thing is kind of confusing with stats though, no idea whose reading new chapters or hitting it for the first time or what not.

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You know, it just occured to me that I've gotten so sick of people citing 'the wonders of nature' as part of the reason their DN's don't want to go home - and no one's really seems to but mine - that I've ended up making mine absolutely hate it... Posted Image

Ah, the wonders of backlash...

Modifié par Sarah1281, 17 août 2010 - 09:03 .


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Shadow of Light Dragon

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For those who write fanfiction based on books rather than games, do you feel any different working between the two mediums?



(Curiousity, nothing more.)

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

For those who write fanfiction based on books rather than games, do you feel any different working between the two mediums?

(Curiousity, nothing more.)

Books are way easier because you have a more ready access to the source material. With DA in specific there's the toolset but that doesn't show everything and other games don't have that. You have to rely on internet summaries/walkthroughs or else replay part of the sections that you don't remember well and it's a bit of a hassle.

Edit: I also generally feel their's more freedom for interpretation with games although I'm not entirely sure why that is.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 18 août 2010 - 03:48 .


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Okay so anyone ever lost their focus and had trouble posting? I seem to have run into a patch of that.

#4266
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I'm currently realizing how difficult it is to have two stories with one character, in two timelines, Since writing smut in the old story with someone who isn't Anders just feel like she's cheating.



I'm also, evidently, insane.

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So... my stats for the month just changed. Retroactively. Every day is about thirty percent more than it was showing earlier.

Strange.

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Mine are up too and I hadn't even seen that they were down :).

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So, here's a question. If a story has an eventual pairing, is it better to list it from the beginning even when you know it won't be for a while? I have mine listed as just Amell now, since Zevran won't even show up until after Orzammar. But I wonder if I should put it in that category now.

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Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Okay so anyone ever lost their focus and had trouble posting? I seem to have run into a patch of that.


I've had a bit of that but then I have RL probs so....

#4271
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@Sarah - Ah yes, that makes sense. The fun of finding a savegame in the right spot with the right characters etc etc...



@Gil - Yes. I have both lost focus and had it split in several directions. My focus is refracted!



@Lupus - I noticed the same thing with stats...odd. The whole thing is so unreliable, though. I'm just content that numbers exist, and how high/low they are don't matter so much.



(Also, insanity is fun.)

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LupusYondergirl wrote...

So, here's a question. If a story has an eventual pairing, is it better to list it from the beginning even when you know it won't be for a while? I have mine listed as just Amell now, since Zevran won't even show up until after Orzammar. But I wonder if I should put it in that category now.


You'll probably get more hits if you put the Zev pairing in there, but you might get a few annoyed people reviewing with "where is Zev?" I stupidly put Alistair/Morrigan on Shades, because technically YES there is an Ali/Morrigan pairing, but got a few people writing "where's the Ali/Morri love?" and I was like "um, no, they HATE each other, but they had sex, so I put the pairing on there any way..."

Maybe wait until Zev shows up and then put the pairing on. Anyone who follows Apostates will know that Maggie romanced Zev any way.

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Miri1984 wrote...

LupusYondergirl wrote...

So, here's a question. If a story has an eventual pairing, is it better to list it from the beginning even when you know it won't be for a while? I have mine listed as just Amell now, since Zevran won't even show up until after Orzammar. But I wonder if I should put it in that category now.


You'll probably get more hits if you put the Zev pairing in there, but you might get a few annoyed people reviewing with "where is Zev?" I stupidly put Alistair/Morrigan on Shades, because technically YES there is an Ali/Morrigan pairing, but got a few people writing "where's the Ali/Morri love?" and I was like "um, no, they HATE each other, but they had sex, so I put the pairing on there any way..."

Maybe wait until Zev shows up and then put the pairing on. Anyone who follows Apostates will know that Maggie romanced Zev any way.


I'm in a similar situation to you, Lupus, as my current story only has Zevran listed (even though Shianni is also there). FWIW, I only intend to update it once the pertinent character actually makes it into the story. I don't know if it's *better* to do it this way, but it satisfies something in me that dislikes giving away spoilers. :)

If more readers is your primary concern, Miri is right, I think. You might be able to get around the annoyance factor by putting some sort of disclaimer at the start of the story, but if you're writing a Blight-based fic(?) I'm sure anyone reading it will know Zev only rocks up after X task is finished.

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What's really annoying is when you have two characters listed because they're the two main characters and people start complaining because they're not together. I really wasn't aware that the 'character list' was actually the 'pairing list' and to use it for anything else was intentionally trying to deceive the poor pairing fans.

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I put Aeducan & Brosca, even though they're both males and more brothers than anything else.