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[Corker]

Another random question!

I finally found Gwaren on a map.  I knew it was southern, but I didn't realize it was a stone's throw from the Korcari Wilds.  Does one wave one's hands and say, "Oh, the darkspawn horde just passed to the west of it and it's not Blighted at all"?  Or is the Teyrn of Gwaren a "fixer upper" for anyone who takes that boon?  (Anora, you sly fox...)

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

*laugh* It looks about as close to the Wilds as Ostagar according to the map. I suppose being in the Brecillian Forest (or beyond it? it's on the coast) might have afforded some protection. Although, according to the wiki, Gwaren had/has access to the Deep Roads? *eyes Anora suspiciously*



(Didn't realise you couldn't find it on the map! I could have pointed it out for you.)

[Raonar]

From what I understand, it's hard to reach, only through a pass I think, so the darkspawn likely weren't able, or inclined, to take the whole horde that way.



I might be wrong though.



Also, since Ferelden had, pretty much, been thoroughly sacked by the darkspawn, I doubt there were any places, save many Highever, that managed to come out of the whole deal unscathed. And since Gwaren is a Teyrnir, it basically means that banns and arls are your vassals, so wealth won't be a big problem there.

[DreGregoire]

I seriously doubt Loghain spent much time in Gwaren anyways. When you're a leader of armies I would guess you are more likely to be at the capital (or whatever you want to call it) more than anywhere else.

[Corker]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

(Didn't realise you couldn't find it on the map! I could have pointed it out for you.)

:happy:  I just hadn't been looking for it; I haven't needed it for much.  I actually spotted it by accident while looking for... I don't even remember now.  And I was kind of like, "Heeeyyyyy... I think somebody's been selling real estate in Jersey Shore, PA."  

@Raonar - IMO, there's a difference between "Darkspawn rolled through and tore stuff up" and "This land is Blighted."  Darkspawn rolled through, say, Redcliffe and tore stuff up, but you can still eat the fish in Lake Calenhad.  Blighted lands, where the darkspawn taint has lingered for some time, would be dead and infertile. 

My working assumption has been that most of the territory around Ostagar and south of Lothering would have a good chance of being Blighted, and Gwaren is right there in the heart of Taint Country.  Well, more to the side.  But you get my drift.

If it's on the other side of a pass, then I could probably buy the darkspawn moving past it.  That might make a nice war fic for someone - The Defenders of Gwaren.  

[Raonar]

I know about the land being Blighted, what I meant was that darkspawn have a habit of destroying/burning (practicing fireballs) on everything they come across, especially villages and towns.



I know there wasn't enough time for the blight to really do the earth itself much damage (a year or so)

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

It was enough to sicken animals though. Do we know much about the grain shortages in Awakenings? Were they all due to darkspawn raids, or was blighted land mentioned?

[TanithAeyrs]

In Awakening I got the impression that the grain shortages were due to the raids since it was stated that the Warden was able to do something about it (if he or she chose to).



Also in "The Stolen Throne" there was an exit from the deep roads in Gwaren, but it was sealed. I have read a few fics where that passage was reopened so I think this is an area where a writer has a lot of latitude without breaking the lore.

[DreGregoire]

So like the map of Ferelden is kinda skimpy. I would think it wouldn't be far fetched to create a little town that you could have a bunch of stuff going on. Have any of you created a new town or environment within Ferelden for your stories? I'm thinking of creating one to have a character disappear into. A town that would be a good size but not large enough to attract alot of attention. Large enough to have a tavern but maybe not a chantry. heh. I just can decide where I'm going to stick it on the map. Northern Ferelden is probably less damaged than Southern Ferelden. Guess I'll work more on this for a while since I'm blocked with my other stories right now. LOL. Nooooooooooooooo writers block. It might kill me. LOL

[LupusYondergirl]

Constantly. They're always stopping at nameless villages, towns, etc. I've also turned places like Kinloch Hold into full towns since, really, why would there be an inn there otherwise? For the bustling Circle tourism?

[DreGregoire]

I don't know which map you are looking at but to me this one makes the areas seem much further apart.
Might just be the way I'm loooking at it.

http://images2.wikia...elden_Map_1.jpg

Modifié par DreGregoire, 24 août 2010 - 02:38 .

[TanithAeyrs]

I had my characters pass through a tiny farming hamlet in northern Ferelden early in my fic, the village tavern had four tables and one tiny room to rent. I have seen a number of authors use small, unnamed villages in their fics.



I think your idea is plausable, but I would set the village off of the main roads if you intend for your character to disappear. Haven certainly wasn't on any official map of Ferelden, so the Frostbacks would be another good option for village location.

[Raonar]

Doesn't every village have a chantry? Lothering was, indeed, a crossroads of sorts, but still, kind of small. And yet it had a pretty large one.

[TanithAeyrs]

social.bioware.com/group/445/discussion/6818/

This is a link to a discussion on Ferelden distances.  Some of it has been posted on this thread previously.  The calculations are based off the scale given on the map that comes with the table top RPG set.  Some of the distances are calculated as the crow flies, but many of them are based on traveling the roads of Ferelden.  Lots of room for villages of any size.

[DreGregoire]

Raonar wrote...

Doesn't every village have a chantry? Lothering was, indeed, a crossroads of sorts, but still, kind of small. And yet it had a pretty large one.

IMO every village having a chantry is a little far fetched. Definately any main villages or ones at points of interest would but just because there is a tavern and a town gathering place doesn't mean that it would require a full chantry. It's very possible that their may be a chantry member and a templar or two, but I would think that would depend on how you choose to write your fic. I'm thinking more of a farming village, similiar to lothering really but off the beaten path where the chantry wouldn't profit from having a full chantry

Modifié par DreGregoire, 24 août 2010 - 02:48 .

[DreGregoire]

TanithAeyrs wrote...

social.bioware.com/group/445/discussion/6818/

This is a link to a discussion on Ferelden distances.  Some of it has been posted on this thread previously.  The calculations are based off the scale given on the map that comes with the table top RPG set.  Some of the distances are calculated as the crow flies, but many of them are based on traveling the roads of Ferelden.  Lots of room for villages of any size.

heheh a good resource which I have made sure to bookmark.

[maxernst]

DreGregoire wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Doesn't every village have a chantry? Lothering was, indeed, a crossroads of sorts, but still, kind of small. And yet it had a pretty large one.

IMO every village having a chantry is a little far fetched. Definately any main villages or ones at points of interest would but just because there is a tavern and a town gathering place doesn't mean that it would require a full chantry. It's very possible that their may be a chantry member and a templar or two, but I would think that would depend on how you choose to write your fic. I'm thinking more of a farming village, similiar to lothering really but off the beaten path where the chantry wouldn't profit from having a full chantry

Based on analogy of churches in medieval Europe, I would expect every village to have a chantry, though most of them would be very small and probably just be one revered mother.  And there should be lots of tiny villages in Ferelden...a couple hundred at least.  Most of the population would live in farming villages.  In fertile areas you would expect to encounter a village every few kilometers because people would not want to walk further than that to tend their fields.

Modifié par maxernst, 24 août 2010 - 02:58 .

[DragonRacer13]

maxernst wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Doesn't every village have a chantry? Lothering was, indeed, a crossroads of sorts, but still, kind of small. And yet it had a pretty large one.

IMO every village having a chantry is a little far fetched. Definately any main villages or ones at points of interest would but just because there is a tavern and a town gathering place doesn't mean that it would require a full chantry. It's very possible that their may be a chantry member and a templar or two, but I would think that would depend on how you choose to write your fic. I'm thinking more of a farming village, similiar to lothering really but off the beaten path where the chantry wouldn't profit from having a full chantry

Based on analogy of churches in medieval Europe, I would expect every village to have a chantry, though most of them would be very small and probably just be one revered mother.  And there should be lots of tiny villages in Ferelden...a couple hundred at least.  Most of the population would live in farming villages.  In fertile areas you would expect to encounter a village every few kilometers because people would not want to walk further than that to tend their fields.

I agree with this. Probably a chantry, even if just a little one, in every community, at the very least -- even if said community is just made up of several neighboring farms and such.

I also find it completely unbelievable that there wouldn't be many little towns, villages, etc. all over. We only see a handful of places on Ferelden's map, but that's just probably what's considered major towns (and cities, in the case of Denerim). So, a fic that didn't include stops in random (even if unnamed) places would not seem believable to me.

[maxernst]

Thinking about Lothering, though--Lothering has a big chantry and an inn, so it's not a humble farming village. It's kind of odd that it doesn't have a Bann. Is it possible that some towns and villages are run by Revered Mother's that function similarly to Banns?

[SurelyForth]

maxernst wrote...

Thinking about Lothering, though--Lothering has a big chantry and an inn, so it's not a humble farming village. It's kind of odd that it doesn't have a Bann. Is it possible that some towns and villages are run by Revered Mother's that function similarly to Banns?

I thought Lothering had a bann and it was a big deal that Loghain had summoned him back to Denerim, leaving Lothering to fend for itself. Or did I make that up?

[LupusYondergirl]

It does have a Bann. Lothering is part of the Southern Banneron, I believe. If you ask the farmer on the edge of town when you enter what happened to the local lord, he tells you the bann and all his men went to ostagar.

[SurelyForth]

Ah, there is also a dialogue with Ser Bryant saying the bann went north with Loghain, thus abandoning Lothering. That makes me feel a bit less mental.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 24 août 2010 - 03:46 .

[LupusYondergirl]

Makes sense. I think it's Cerolic, who always sides with Loghain at the landsmeet. He may have gone north after the battle.

(So we're both right!)

[DreGregoire]

hmmm hey I totally missed the pen and paper Dragon Age RPG coming out, I was too busy playing the computer game to notice I guess. LOL. What an awesome resource for writing fan fiction. I won't play the game of course so I ordered the pdf form.

[LupusYondergirl]

I have the PDFs, they're handy. The game isn't bad, either. Strange dice system, though. Really bare bones.