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[KSuri]

Sorry to kinda jump the topic but.....Anyone know how you might address whomever is in charge of Antiva City? Presumably Antiva is broken down kinda like Ferelden right? You think there would be some kind of police force in Antiva City?

[LupusYondergirl]

Antiva is more of a direct monarchy, I believe. I don't know if the king and queen would be the ruler of the city, being the capital, or if there would be a duke of some sort. Ferelden is sort of a parliamentary monarchy, in that the nobles vote for the king, and nobles get their power from the direct support of the landowners. That's remarked on a few times as unique in Thedas.

One of the devs said Antiva was based on the renaissance era Italian city-states, and in my mind I always think of them them as very much like the Republic of Florence under the de'Medici reign (culturally, at least). Very forward-thinking, decadent, huge interest in the arts, etc.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 24 août 2010 - 04:59 .

[KSuri]

What do you think their law enforcement would be like? City guards? The wiki says Antiva doesn't have an army of her own so I was thinking that there wasn't a formal royal army. maybe a vanguard or something?

[Corker]

The Doge of Venice, for other inspiration.  Also, the Lombard League, for an alliance of Italian city-states.  Neither of these things really seems to directly correspond to Antiva, though.

For whatever it's worth, London had a Lord Mayor while also serving as the chief seat of England's kings. 

[LupusYondergirl]

Maybe guards belonging to whoever rules that specific city? If the whole nation is broken into city states there might not be a unified army, but each region may have their own defense forces.



I'd go with guards, though. An actual police force, as we'd think of it, didn't really exist until the enlightenment or so IRL, I'd be surprised if Thedas is that much further ahead.

[KSuri]

I was thinking city guards but didn't know who I'd make them belong to seeing as how the ruling family of Antiva is more a symbol than anything else. Something like the Lord Mayor idea might work for practical purposes.



Also....if an elven Warden Commander were abroad....outside the word of mouth radius. You'd think they'd have some kind of papers or something proving who they were as Wardens don't usually sport colors.

[LupusYondergirl]

In the books Wardens wore tunics with a griffon on them. Duncan complained about his, though, so maybe when he became in charge he abolished the practice for Ferelden (or animating cloth tunics over armor in a game is too costly... hehe). Outside Ferelden it may still be common.

[KSuri]

I could see it with Orliasean Wardens. Seems feasible. Since we never saw any in the game I'm opting out of any formal colors. Maybe an amulet or signet that is only give to Wardens. Like the one you receive at the Joining. Warden Commander not withstanding, probably has something indicating rank for official purposes.



Thanks for the help. Trying to plug through Ch. 6 and put a halfway realistic spin on current events.

[DreGregoire]

Actually if you see a guy on a griffon, oh darn, they are extinct.... Well seriously I believe that you would expect your warden to have some type of crest. Saddle bags with the warden crest, cloak, ring, or some such. I would think you would want to announce who you are in that circumstance. The game doesn't talk too much about paper work for the individuals but I wouldn't think it would be abnormal to have some type of letter or some such. If you were smart (not you but your warden hehe) and concerned about it I'm sure you could get any number of letters from the leaders of ferelden

Modifié par DreGregoire, 24 août 2010 - 05:28 .

[LupusYondergirl]

A commander would probably have a signet ring with their heraldry that they could also use to seal letters, that sort of thing was common. The commander's heraldry isn't the same as the normal Wardens. The dual griffons back to back is only used by the Warden Commander.

[KSuri]

As my Warden is an elf she had papers made for her from the Queen giving her the right to travel where she wanted as well as who she. I also didn't think it out of place to have something from the First Warden as well. As for the heraldy she's without her signet ring at the moment.



I kinda think of the Wardens in Ferelden as not having a formal uniform. Like there is basic equipment issued to new Wardens but as time passes they kind of grow into their own individual weapons and armor. Like we do in the game, getting the best bang for buck out of our stuff and tailoring it to our fighting style.



My Warden just chopped up a few would be thieves and I can't imagine that she'd be able to stroll around splattered and not have someone notice and report it.

[LupusYondergirl]

Hm... did they ever say how much the bounty was on the wardens in-game?

[Raonar]

Don't think so...

Anyway, I finally got some constructive criticism and apparently I use too much ellipsis. And I checked and... I think it's true LOL.

BTW, does anyone know for sure how long the Warden is unconscious in Flemeth's hut? As in, how much time passes between getting struck down by the darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal and waking up naked with Morrigan in the room?

(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

Modifié par Raonar, 24 août 2010 - 06:16 .

[KSuri]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Hm... did they ever say how much the bounty was on the wardens in-game?

I don't think they ever did. From my perspective and how I played the game. I did the contracts with the Crows and am working under the impression that the original contract was negated as a professional curteousy. And you kinda saved the world....even the Crows could appreciate that.

The skirmish with the theives came about because my Warden lost her way in Antiva City and attracted unfavorable attention by just being well outfitted, female, and alone.

[KSuri]

Raonar wrote...



(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

Kept you drugged an unconscious and had their way with you to up the odds of the god child.  lol

[Maria13]

DragonRacer13 wrote...

maxernst wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Doesn't every village have a chantry? Lothering was, indeed, a crossroads of sorts, but still, kind of small. And yet it had a pretty large one.

IMO every village having a chantry is a little far fetched. Definately any main villages or ones at points of interest would but just because there is a tavern and a town gathering place doesn't mean that it would require a full chantry. It's very possible that their may be a chantry member and a templar or two, but I would think that would depend on how you choose to write your fic. I'm thinking more of a farming village, similiar to lothering really but off the beaten path where the chantry wouldn't profit from having a full chantry

Based on analogy of churches in medieval Europe, I would expect every village to have a chantry, though most of them would be very small and probably just be one revered mother.  And there should be lots of tiny villages in Ferelden...a couple hundred at least.  Most of the population would live in farming villages.  In fertile areas you would expect to encounter a village every few kilometers because people would not want to walk further than that to tend their fields.

I agree with this. Probably a chantry, even if just a little one, in every community, at the very least -- even if said community is just made up of several neighboring farms and such.

I also find it completely unbelievable that there wouldn't be many little towns, villages, etc. all over. We only see a handful of places on Ferelden's map, but that's just probably what's considered major towns (and cities, in the case of Denerim). So, a fic that didn't include stops in random (even if unnamed) places would not seem believable to me.

What surprised me going in to Orlais is that there appear to be no towns or villages on the shores of the Wakening Sea, the few that appear are clustered around the Imperial Highway.  Now come on! If you look at your basic geography you can't go a mile down a cost without finding at least a fishing village.  So I invented Port Lydes, basically Lydes on sea, ha!

[maxernst]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

A commander would probably have a signet ring with their heraldry that they could also use to seal letters, that sort of thing was common. The commander's heraldry isn't the same as the normal Wardens. The dual griffons back to back is only used by the Warden Commander.

Yes, I used the idea that the Warden Commander has a signet ring in my ff.  Also, I had Alistair repaint Howe's shield with the argent griffon segreant on azure, which is supposed to the coat of arms according to the wiki.  I don't recall Duncan wearing it in any obvious way, though.

[DreGregoire]

Raonar wrote...

Don't think so...

Anyway, I finally got some constructive criticism and apparently I use too much ellipsis. And I checked and... I think it's true LOL.

BTW, does anyone know for sure how long the Warden is unconscious in Flemeth's hut? As in, how much time passes between getting struck down by the darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal and waking up naked with Morrigan in the room?

(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

I was under the impression it was a few days... so three maybe. But I could be wrong

[DreGregoire]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Hm... did they ever say how much the bounty was on the wardens in-game?

Loghain's bounty on the warden or the crow contract?

edit
The crow contract was actually initiated by Howe But there is mention of another bounty put on the wardens by Loghain

Modifié par DreGregoire, 24 août 2010 - 06:38 .

[LupusYondergirl]

DreGregoire wrote...

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Hm... did they ever say how much the bounty was on the wardens in-game?

Loghain's bounty or the crow contract?

Loghain's bounty, the one you first learn about from Ser Bryant in Lothering.

[DreGregoire]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Hm... did they ever say how much the bounty was on the wardens in-game?

Loghain's bounty or the crow contract?

Loghain's bounty, the one you first learn about from Ser Bryant in Lothering.

No and that is just wrong. I wanna know how much he thought we were worth lol

[DreGregoire]

DreGregoire wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Don't think so...

Anyway, I finally got some constructive criticism and apparently I use too much ellipsis. And I checked and... I think it's true LOL.

BTW, does anyone know for sure how long the Warden is unconscious in Flemeth's hut? As in, how much time passes between getting struck down by the darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal and waking up naked with Morrigan in the room?

(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

I was under the impression it was a few days... so three maybe. But I could be wrong

I went back to a save and there doesn't appear to be a time frame mentioned but I could have just picked the wrong convo. trees. So it could be much longer than three days depending on how injured you were

[Sandtigress]

Raonar wrote...

Don't think so...

Anyway, I finally got some constructive criticism and apparently I use too much ellipsis. And I checked and... I think it's true LOL.

BTW, does anyone know for sure how long the Warden is unconscious in Flemeth's hut? As in, how much time passes between getting struck down by the darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal and waking up naked with Morrigan in the room?

(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

I dunno, but it was enough time that he was back in Denerim talking to the nobles by the time you got the Lothering, and for Bann Teagan to have arrived there probably from Rainesfaire...It takes about 2 weeks (averaging about 17 miles travel per day) to get from Ostagar to Denerim - I imagine an army would travel slower but maybe Loghain went on ahead.

Lothering to Denerim is about 10 days travel, we know that Loghain passed through there before you.  So I guess I'd have to guess at least a week passed between the events at the Tower and Flemeth's hut.

Redcliffe to Denerim is a little over 2 weeks, and according to Duncan Ostagar to Redcliffe is approximately a week.  So it maybe took a week for Teagan to hear about the fall of Ostagar, and another two to travel to Denerim?  Unless, of course, he was already headed that way because Eamon fell sick or something.

Either way, it sure does seem like a long time.

Modifié par Sandtigress, 24 août 2010 - 07:00 .

[Raonar]

Sandtigress wrote...

Raonar wrote...

Don't think so...

Anyway, I finally got some constructive criticism and apparently I use too much ellipsis. And I checked and... I think it's true LOL.

BTW, does anyone know for sure how long the Warden is unconscious in Flemeth's hut? As in, how much time passes between getting struck down by the darkspawn in the Tower of Ishal and waking up naked with Morrigan in the room?

(By the gods, what did those two women do to you all that time?)

I dunno, but it was enough time that he was back in Denerim talking to the nobles by the time you got the Lothering, and for Bann Teagan to have arrived there probably from Rainesfaire...It takes about 2 weeks (averaging about 17 miles travel per day) to get from Ostagar to Denerim - I imagine an army would travel slower but maybe Loghain went on ahead.

Lothering to Denerim is about 10 days travel, we know that Loghain passed through there before you.  So I guess I'd have to guess at least a week passed between the events at the Tower and Flemeth's hut.

AHA, excellent, my estimate as well, I just needed a confirmation.

I'm starting on chapter 15, the one where Gwenith Cousland and Alistair go through the 'Flemeth hut episode' and I needed to know how much time it was until they could get to Lothering, so that I could properly plan how, where and when they meet up with the others (CE, DC, Elf Mage and DE).

EDIT

So basically... about a month between Tower and Lothering yes?

Modifié par Raonar, 24 août 2010 - 07:01 .

[LupusYondergirl]

I made it a couple weeks recuperating in the hut, but I wanted to make sure I had enough time smashed between leaving the tower and arriving in Lothering for Jowan to poison the arl and everyone to realize how serious his illness was. (since we know after his capture, which wasn't immediate, Jowan was taken to Denerim, and from there went to Redcliffe).

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 24 août 2010 - 07:04 .