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[Shadow of Light Dragon]

My dad read me The Hobbit every night before bed. ;D



And Firky...because all of Tolkein's female characters had really really small parts: Arwen, Galadriel, Rosie, Goldberry, Eowyn and that mean Sackville-Baggins hobbit woman.



Maria's avatar looks like something out of LO5R...typical pretty white-haired Crane samurai.

[sabreene]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

My dad read me The Hobbit every night before bed. ;D

And Firky...because all of Tolkein's female characters had really really small parts: Arwen, Galadriel, Rosie, Goldberry, Eowyn and that mean Sackville-Baggins hobbit woman.

Maria's avatar looks like something out of LO5R...typical pretty white-haired Crane samurai.

We read the Hobbit every night before bed too! And watched those old cartoon movies of The Hobbit & Return of the King. Gollum gave me two week of nightmares when I was 5, after watching the latter cartoon.

I was pretty much raised on Sci-Fi -- First movie -- Star Wars, at the drive-in! And then all of Heinlein's books before I was 10. (and not just his juvenile books). My dad wanted to make sure I got what he considered the "classiscs of sc-fi before it became ruined. Although, to tell the truth, if thise is ruined, give me more! lol

[Sarah1281]

Must be unique here, don't particularly like Tolkien, too... Stodgy?

I haven't tried to read him for a few years so that might explain it but it took me forever to get through The Hobbit and I couldn't get past that first night out of the Shire or so when Frodo slept in a fox hole in the second. It just had WAY too much description and I've never been even remotely fond of that.

[Raonar]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Must be unique here, don't particularly like Tolkien, too... Stodgy?

I haven't tried to read him for a few years so that might explain it but it took me forever to get through The Hobbit and I couldn't get past that first night out of the Shire or so when Frodo slept in a fox hole in the second. It just had WAY too much description and I've never been even remotely fond of that.

Hmm, I didn't find the decriptions too overwhelming. Actually  I kind of enjoyed them since Tolkien actually seemed to convey visuals really well.

In other news, chapter 18 of my fanfiction is up and I feel like I'm being a bit too cruel to the characters.

Sigh... the world of Dragon Age is really harsh.

[DreGregoire]

I think I read LOTR. I think I must have. Well I have leatherbound copies anyways. So I must have liked them but they weren't where I got my start reading that type of book. hmmmm ah Aslan!

I'm not convinced that glowing swords to warn of danger weren't around before LOTR

Modifié par DreGregoire, 19 septembre 2010 - 03:08 .

[LupusYondergirl]

sabreene wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

My dad read me The Hobbit every night before bed. ;D

And Firky...because all of Tolkein's female characters had really really small parts: Arwen, Galadriel, Rosie, Goldberry, Eowyn and that mean Sackville-Baggins hobbit woman.

Maria's avatar looks like something out of LO5R...typical pretty white-haired Crane samurai.

We read the Hobbit every night before bed too! And watched those old cartoon movies of The Hobbit & Return of the King. Gollum gave me two week of nightmares when I was 5, after watching the latter cartoon.

I was pretty much raised on Sci-Fi -- First movie -- Star Wars, at the drive-in! And then all of Heinlein's books before I was 10. (and not just his juvenile books). My dad wanted to make sure I got what he considered the "classiscs of sc-fi before it became ruined. Although, to tell the truth, if thise is ruined, give me more! lol

Same here!  And those movies?  My god... I just watched them recently out of nostalgia and all I could think was "was my dad HIGH to show me these?!"  Clearly the people who made them were.  Ah, the 70s.
My first movie was apparently The Empire Strikes back when I was barely more than an infant.  I was far too young to understand what was going on, but according to my father from the moment it started I was completely silent. 

I do remember going to see Return of the Jedi when it came out, and I have vague memories of seeing all three at the drive in, sitting in the back of my mom's old hatchback with the boy who lived next door to us.

[LupusYondergirl]

Ooh. and a lore question for you fine folks. Do we think that they will ever establish who Wynne's son is?

[TanithAeyrs]

jackkel dragon wrote...


(PS: Has anyone else read all of "the Hobbit" more than seven times? Just wondering... Hoping I'm not alone...)

ROFL, I think I've only read "The Hobbit" 4 or 5 times but I wore out my first set of LOTR (30+ times) and waded through  the "Silmarillion" three times.  I'm a compulsive re-reader though- "The Once and Future King" at least 20 times, the first three Anne McCaffery books (Dragonflight, Dragonquest, The White Dragon) at least 15 times (and no less than 3 for any of her other books), all of the Katherine Kurtz Deryni books at least 3 times (the first three many more times than that), Zelazny's Amber series 4 or 5 times.   Now that there is more fantasy and sci-fi published I don't re-read as much, the genre has grown quite a bit.  I still pull my old favorites down for a re-read once in a while though.

@Lupus: so I'm a rotten mom who is guilty of naming her kids after fantasy characters too.  My oldest is Sturm (after Sturm Brightblade from Dragonlance) and my youngest is Durin (Dwarf King of Moria). 

My parents raised us on MASH and Star Trek (the original series with Kirk, Spock and McCoy), so I was ruined early.  Read Tolkien the first time at 8 and did a book report on the whole LOTR series at 10 (then had a fight with my teacher because she said I couldn't have read all of them - so I quoted a bunch of stuff to her and got in trouble for "sassing" her).

Modifié par TanithAeyrs, 19 septembre 2010 - 05:28 .

[FutileSine]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Ooh. and a lore question for you fine folks. Do we think that they will ever establish who Wynne's son is?

It's Hawke!!!!!!!  JK.

Anyways, hurrah for questions that can distract me from homework/housework!

Personally, I doubt it. I always interpreted that conversation as giving more detail in how life at the circle worked as well as some insight into Wynne's personal development.  I think one FF story  came up with the idea that Cullen was Wynne's son (at least thats what I got from reading reviews of said story...), which would be intriguing...

I will be impressed if Wynne's son plays any sort of future role or even gets mentioned again, because there are definitely some clever things one could do with that plot line.  But another reason I think that it is unlikely is that I think that conversation isn't one that can get instigated at camp (IE, it only happens when you have Wynne in your party and your walking across a bridge-like structure)  Thus Its something that wouldn't be available to all the players....I would think if it was important, or at least was going to be delved into further the developers/writers would have ensured the player knew about it.  Of course my memory could be failing me and it DOES get mentioned at camp, and so this entire paragraph is bunk.  Ah well..

To finish I'll just restate my original sentence and say that it was just something the dialogue writers/Wynne writers sounded cool for the history of Wynne....but I doubted DG concerned himself with it.  

[SurelyForth]

Actually, DG said they might mention Wynne's son again at some point. Maybe. It was in a thread about Anders' parentage, and was more than likely him fanning the flames of rampant speculation. I'll see if I can dig up the quote...

Here it is...

David Gaider wrote...

Anders is a little too old to be Duncan's son.


As for Wynne's son, you may one day hear more about him. We'll see.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 19 septembre 2010 - 05:33 .

[mousestalker]

My cousin/best friend and I used to write each other in Sindarin and Quenya when we were fourteen or so. We were such total geeks it isn't funny.



What's sad is that after all that effort to learn two made up languages, neither of us did very well at real foreign languages in class and I don't remember any of it now.

[TanithAeyrs]

The name for one of my main characters in one of my original fic story lines is derived from Quenya. I've used the name for years in tabletop RPG's and now it belongs to the main character in the second series of my original stuff - don't know if I'll ever finish it or get it published but it's fun to write.

[LupusYondergirl]

SurelyForth wrote...

Actually, DG said they might mention Wynne's son again at some point. Maybe. It was in a thread about Anders' parentage, and was more than likely him fanning the flames of rampant speculation. I'll see if I can dig up the quote...

Here it is...

David Gaider wrote...

Anders is a little too old to be Duncan's son.


As for Wynne's son, you may one day hear more about him. We'll see.

That does sound like one of those "you WILL hear more about him" hints. 

[FutileSine]

SurelyForth wrote...

Actually, DG said they might mention Wynne's son again at some point. Maybe. It was in a thread about Anders' parentage, and was more than likely him fanning the flames of rampant speculation. I'll see if I can dig up the quote...

Here it is...

David Gaider wrote...

Anders is a little too old to be Duncan's son.

As for Wynne's son, you may one day hear more about him. We'll see.

Hmmm.  Interesting.  Thanks for digging up that old quote, BTW.:happy:  

Like I said much more poorly before, I'll be very impressed if they can weave this loose thread back into the DA story again....

[SurelyForth]

Actually, they wouldn't have to weave it back if they didn't want it to. If they don't show him, it's just something that Wynne brings up to give her and Alistair a connection of sorts (and to give insight into Chantry/Circle relations). If they do show him, his being related to Wynne will be enough of a connection.

It would be a bit like Delilah in Awakening. Unless you play a Male Cousland, you have no idea that Delilah Howe exists. So for a non M!Cousland, when you meet her in Amaranthine she's just Nathaniel's sister who helps him come to terms with his issues. If you are a M!Cousland, she makes a comment about not wanting to marry that Cousland boy and that ties back to Origins without breaking anything else.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 19 septembre 2010 - 06:07 .

[KSuri]

I'm afraid I've only read the Hobbit twice, Similarian once and I never read the LOTR books. I couldn't get past the older English way they were written so I read the appendix. My husband tells me the movies are pretty spot on so I content myself with those.



I'm afraid I'm a bit of a geek for historical fictions and pulled my daughter's name from the Illiad and borrowed a shortened version from Steven Pressfield's The Last Amazon. My son got stuck with a name from Arthurian legend, a personal fav from childhood. In all we ended up with Breseis, Thessoli, and Gareth. Yes, we be a family o geeks!

[TanithAeyrs]

KSuri wrote...

I'm afraid I've only read the Hobbit twice, Similarian once and I never read the LOTR books. I couldn't get past the older English way they were written so I read the appendix. My husband tells me the movies are pretty spot on so I content myself with those.

I'm afraid I'm a bit of a geek for historical fictions and pulled my daughter's name from the Illiad and borrowed a shortened version from Steven Pressfield's The Last Amazon. My son got stuck with a name from Arthurian legend, a personal fav from childhood. In all we ended up with Breseis, Thessoli, and Gareth. Yes, we be a family o geeks!

The movies are pretty close, a few changes (like Arwen's role) are significant.  Aragorn was also more decisive in the books and never denied his role as Isildur's heir.  The Frodo/Smeagol dynamic was very well done in the movies.

Yay to geek moms and fun names for our kids.  Don't know if they will forgive us when they grow up, but they can choose boring names for their kids if they don't like our creativity.

[Sarah1281]

I wish my parents had been more creative with my name and those of my brothers. But no. They honestly claim they didn't realize how popular our names were at the time. And then they further justify their decision by not wanting us to have to explain how to pronounce things every time we turned around.

[FutileSine]

SurelyForth wrote...

Actually, they wouldn't have to weave it back if they didn't want it to. If they don't show him, it's just something that Wynne brings up to give her and Alistair a connection of sorts (and to give insight into Chantry/Circle relations). If they do show him, his being related to Wynne will be enough of a connection.

It would be a bit like Delilah in Awakening. Unless you play a Male Cousland, you have no idea that Delilah Howe exists. So for a non M!Cousland, when you meet her in Amaranthine she's just Nathaniel's sister who helps him come to terms with his issues. If you are a M!Cousland, she makes a comment about not wanting to marry that Cousland boy and that ties back to Origins without breaking anything else.

Perhaps.  The tricky thing with Wynne's son is that I can't imagine the Chantry would tell him that his mother and father were *gasp* mages, much less their names.  So how could he bring it up  casually in conversation? Maybe I just have a really cruel opinion of the Chantry, though...

Of course they could, I suppose make her son a complete rebel who snuck around in the Chantry record books and found out the names of his parents...(Oh dear...here comes the ideas!)

Hmm...My personal favorite idea for revealing who Wynne's son is, is if we are able to incorporate a character from DA:O into our party (or at least someone who knew Wynne) and if s/he's in the party when you encounter Wynne's son s/he can say something like "You know, you remind me a lot of a Circle Mage I once knew..."  Or something like that.  Maybe not spell it out *exactly*, but give DA fanatics a major rush when they put two and two together....

Or they could make out some wicked sidequest to help Wynne's son discover who his parents were.  So many ideas....that probably don't really belong in this forum.  Ah well.  

[SurelyForth]

My boyfriend has started insisting that we name our hypothetical first son Tiberius Atreides or Samwise Stark. I am not amused, as my geeky name tastes are rooted in a minor obsession with Southern literature and he gives me grief for that.

[LupusYondergirl]

SurelyForth wrote...

My boyfriend has started insisting that we name our hypothetical first son Tiberius Atreides or Samwise Stark. I am not amused, as my geeky name tastes are rooted in a minor obsession with Southern literature and he gives me grief for that.

Really?  Southern literature has some fantastic names.  And most aren't so uncommon they would sound "made up" or anything like that. 

Well, as long as you don't name the kid Tarwater. That would be mean.

[mousestalker]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

My boyfriend has started insisting that we name our hypothetical first son Tiberius Atreides or Samwise Stark. I am not amused, as my geeky name tastes are rooted in a minor obsession with Southern literature and he gives me grief for that.

Really?  Southern literature has some fantastic names.  And most aren't so uncommon they would sound "made up" or anything like that. 

Well, as long as you don't name the kid Tarwater. That would be mean.

or Willie Stark...

[jackkel dragon]

TanithAeyrs wrote...

KSuri wrote...
My husband tells me the movies are pretty spot on so I content myself with those.

The movies are pretty close, a few changes (like Arwen's role) are significant.  Aragorn was also more decisive in the books and never denied his role as Isildur's heir.  The Frodo/Smeagol dynamic was very well done in the movies.

I actually saw the movies first, shame on me. The movies are pretty close to the books, though when I actually read the books I laughed at how many scenes from the second book got into each movie. (The ending of the first movie and the beginning of the third movie are in the second book.) A cousin of mine mentioned that Frodo's conflict with the Ring was more internal in the book (why would a weak-willed person have the thing?) Still, hard to do internal conflicts in movies, so it all works out for me.

[jackkel dragon]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Well, as long as you don't name the kid Tarwater. That would be mean.

Tarwater? Who would be so cruel as to name their child that?!

[SurelyForth]

LupusYondergirl wrote...
Really?  Southern literature has some fantastic names.  And most aren't so uncommon they would sound "made up" or anything like that. 

Well, as long as you don't name the kid Tarwater. That would be mean.

Not Tarwater (although Hazel was kicked around...). I've gotten him to relent on Harper and that involved a compromise of Tiberius as at least a middle name. 

Re Wynne's son: From a lore perspective, meeting Wynne's son could shed some light on the inner workings of the Chantry. I would like to know what they do with a child if it turned out to also be a mage. Do they return it to the same Circle, or a foreign Circle? Would they tell Wynne it was her child, or would they keep it a big secret? If they kept it a secret, what would the motivation be to do so? I find it hard to believe that there aren't relatives in the Circle already (especially since Circle mages can go out and about and some have had children, who could also turn out to be mages). I think it would be interesting to know some of these things.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 19 septembre 2010 - 07:18 .