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[soignee]

I need internets to write. I NEED IT.

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

I need internets to write. I NEED IT.

Seconded.

[DragonRacer13]

mousestalker wrote...

Vent

I hate typos! Really really hate them! I just looked at a story I wrote a while back and it was riddled with the pesky things. I can proofread other people's writing, why do I suck so much at proofing mine?

/Vent

Proofing your own writing is incredibly difficult. It's something, I believe, that's actually been scientifically proven. If it's your own writing and your own idea, your brain already knows what you mean to say. So, it's easy to gloss over mistakes and typos because your brain is reading what it already knew it wanted to say. If that makes sense.
Whereas, when reading someone else's writing, it's new to your brain and much easier to pick out typos.

That's why authors have editors, after all. A different pair of eyes ALWAYS needs to look over something you've written.

But I feel your pain. I consider myself very adept at spotting and fixing typos, even in my own writing. My beta is more for making sure I'm staying in-character and not completely jumping the shark on anything, moreso than for catching typos. So, an occasional one still sneaks by. Now, what I DON'T understand is how the brain can read and re-read a chapter and miss a typo... but will see it after you've posted the thing live on the Internet! I thought I had my two current chapters perfect... and then spotted one minor typo in each. So, guess I'm good for one typo a chapter.

[DragonRacer13]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

I have to say that proof-reading is a hellovalot easier if done on paper, but I never do that for fanfiction.

This is also very true. Again, I think it's just something in the way the human brain works... reading from a computer screen is just honestly a bit different than reading a piece of paper. Heck, my English professors used to always tell us to print our papers to proofread them... not to just trust proofreading them on the monitor.

And you know, they were right. I almost always found things in the printed version that I'd missed when simply looking at it on the screen.

[Creature 1]

DragonRacer13 wrote...
If it's your own writing and your own idea, your brain already knows what you mean to say. So, it's easy to gloss over mistakes and typos because your brain is reading what it already knew it wanted to say. If that makes sense.
Whereas, when reading someone else's writing, it's new to your brain and much easier to pick out typos.

I found reading out loud helps, maybe not so much with typos but with general flow and sentence structure.  It makes your brain think about the writing differently. 

Though there are some passages I've gotten past having to write with my eyes closed, but still don't think I could read them out loud. 

Modifié par Creature 1, 24 septembre 2010 - 06:29 .

[Sialater]

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

I need internets to write. I NEED IT.

Seconded.

Thirded.

[LupusYondergirl]

Sialater wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

I need internets to write. I NEED IT.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed.
I'm constantly checking the wiki for lore references, other sites for general historical references, etc etc.  I'd be lost without the internet.

[Sarah1281]

Asking people on this site can also come in handy. Just today, for instance, I was writing something and I couldn't think of what Shale would call Anders and so someone here (SurelyForth) came up with something for me.

[SurelyForth]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Asking people on this site can also come in handy. Just today, for instance, I was writing something and I couldn't think of what Shale would call Anders and so someone here (SurelyForth) came up with something for me.

Agreed. Sometimes I have to go running to my beta to test plot ideas I'm not entirely certain are going to work. 

[Maria13]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

I need internets to write. I NEED IT.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed.
I'm constantly checking the wiki for lore references, other sites for general historical references, etc etc.  I'd be lost without the internet.

Fifthed...

Hubby reading the other day: Oh I see you like mentioning all the different pieces of armour

Things reasearched: Bedding ceremonies, armour, absinthe, body language, whether there were windows on ships (there were), types of ship, bows, stages of pregnancy and birth (I'm childless so what do I know?), medieval underwear (unknown but bras were only invented in 20th century)...

Oh yah and Andraste was an Icean goddess of war invoked by Boudicca...

Modifié par Maria13, 24 septembre 2010 - 10:52 .

[nefand]

Maria13 wrote...

Things reasearched: Bedding ceremonies, armour, absinthe, body language, whether there were windows on ships (there were), types of ship, bows, stages of pregnancy and birth (I'm childless so what do I know?), medieval underwear (unknown but bras were only invented in 20th century)...

Oh yah and Andraste was an Icean goddess of war invoked by Boudicca...

*raises hand*  Guilty as charged.

Luckily in my line of work I have access to medical lit, so the details on pregnancy & complications are pretty easy for me to gather.  The real problem was isolating the loopholes in existing canon that allowed me the wiggle room I needed to legitimize a Grey Warden pregnancy... but I found five. 

After that, I had to branch out to the interwebs to compile the science I needed to support where I wanted to go with whichever one I was working with at the moment, which is really more for me probably but I like to have the logic worked out for my own sanity.

Another good resource is youtube, since I can usually find game clips to refresh my memory on game details without having to go back and load old save files.  The only thing I had problems finding were Loghain-as-secret-companion bits, and I eventually broke down and loaded Sylfie to play it through *cries at the memory*.  And of course I have the two prequel books handy for reference.

The DA Wiki is slim pickins' still for all three of those particular items.

[Gilgamesh1138]

Okay, can I complain and **** about how much I hate Real Life?  I miss being on here with the sucks thread. I miss you all.  Work hates BSN and won't let me log on. And work has been crazy busy. I am soooo tired, too tired to write. I hate that!  Anyone else here have a soul sucking job that keeps them from doing what they love?

[Sialater]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Okay, can I complain and **** about how much I hate Real Life?  I miss being on here with the sucks thread. I miss you all.  Work hates BSN and won't let me log on. And work has been crazy busy. I am soooo tired, too tired to write. I hate that!  Anyone else here have a soul sucking job that keeps them from doing what they love?

Yes.  I'm a land secretary for an oil company.  Which means I'm sorta like a REALLY specialized paralegal.  Doesn't require a whole lot of imagination or creativity.  But at least I have unfettered internet.

[Gilgamesh1138]

I have unfettered internet, but if I take calls in a call center. So, if we are busy, well...yeah. I am so tired I can't even think straight. I want to write on my chapter so bad! *whines*

[mousestalker]

Sialater wrote...

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Okay, can I complain and **** about how much I hate Real Life?  I miss being on here with the sucks thread. I miss you all.  Work hates BSN and won't let me log on. And work has been crazy busy. I am soooo tired, too tired to write. I hate that!  Anyone else here have a soul sucking job that keeps them from doing what they love?

Yes.  I'm a land secretary for an oil company.  Which means I'm sorta like a REALLY specialized paralegal.  Doesn't require a whole lot of imagination or creativity.  But at least I have unfettered internet.

Yes. I'm a partner in a real estate title examination firm and a real estate attorney. Both roles require lots of attention to detail, great research skills, and zero creativity. The only saving grace is working from home.

[Sarah1281]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Okay, can I complain and **** about how much I hate Real Life?  I miss being on here with the sucks thread. I miss you all.  Work hates BSN and won't let me log on. And work has been crazy busy. I am soooo tired, too tired to write. I hate that!  Anyone else here have a soul sucking job that keeps them from doing what they love?

...classes can get really boring? Particularly Anthropology? 

[LadyJaneGrey]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Aaarrrggghh! Did I hit my head and forget how to proofread today?
Days like this are when I wonder if I should get a beta.
Fixed that, too.
Can I blame Dostoevsky for this? I think I'd like to. Discussing Crime and Punishment for three hours today has caused part of my brain to shut down.

When I finish my PhD can I have their job?

I would definitely blame Dostoevsky.  I know I always walk around in a bit of brain fog after reading/dissecting/writing about his books and philosophy.

[Sialater]

mousestalker wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Okay, can I complain and **** about how much I hate Real Life?  I miss being on here with the sucks thread. I miss you all.  Work hates BSN and won't let me log on. And work has been crazy busy. I am soooo tired, too tired to write. I hate that!  Anyone else here have a soul sucking job that keeps them from doing what they love?

Yes.  I'm a land secretary for an oil company.  Which means I'm sorta like a REALLY specialized paralegal.  Doesn't require a whole lot of imagination or creativity.  But at least I have unfettered internet.

Yes. I'm a partner in a real estate title examination firm and a real estate attorney. Both roles require lots of attention to detail, great research skills, and zero creativity. The only saving grace is working from home.

I wanna work from home.

[SurelyForth]

I work in an office dedicated to women's advocacy at a university. By all rights, it should be the most awesome job in the world. I design publications and hang out with professors and do all sorts of stuff that makes life a little bit better for others. But my boss is crazy and she's hired crazy people (note, she did not hire me), so what should be great is terrible.



But I do have access to the internet, the chance to be creative, and a pretty sweet office to cry in every day at lunch.

[Gilgamesh1138]

My job is talking to cancer patients. While rewarding on one level...very very difficult on another. Many people are frightened, or sick, or they are about to lose everything due to meds and copays for treatment. Or they have lost their insurance and are about to lose everything because they can't work or got fired...yeah.. and breast cancer awareness month is next month and we are swamped with calls. I am soooo brain dead right now, and I want to write and get Anders his Pounce. I dont' think it is going to happen tonight. *sigh* or can I do Soignee's FFFFFFfffffffff

[Gilgamesh1138]

And I feel for you guy, no creativity at work or crazy boss and co-workers...ewww. Sarah, anthro can be verrrry boring, been there done that! *hugs you all*

[SurelyForth]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

My job is talking to cancer patients. While rewarding on one level...very very difficult on another. Many people are frightened, or sick, or they are about to lose everything due to meds and copays for treatment. Or they have lost their insurance and are about to lose everything because they can't work or got fired...yeah.. and breast cancer awareness month is next month and we are swamped with calls. I am soooo brain dead right now, and I want to write and get Anders his Pounce. I dont' think it is going to happen tonight. *sigh* or can I do Soignee's FFFFFFfffffffff

*quietly slips Gil the pervstache for moral support*

Also, you're a star. I wouldn't last ten minutes doing what you do. 

[LupusYondergirl]

Gil, seriously, I don't know how you can handle that job, but hats off to you. I couldn't manage it.





(and is ffnet being a hot mess for anyone else right now? Tons of error messages and so forth...)

[Gilgamesh1138]

Thanks Lupus, that helps a lot. And yes, ffnet is being a right git!

[Gilgamesh1138]

Goodnight talented, wonderful, hard working people. *HUGS*