Fanfiction Sucks
#5601
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 06:11
#5602
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:45
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
#5603
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:01
#5604
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:09
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
So far it's my secret that I only share here with other writers and at home with my husband. Not even with family. I'm afraid if I told anyone else they would think I am soft in the head... But with my husband and here I do talk a lot about it. Sometimes I wish I had more sounding boards on things like plot and character development, although I don't think I'm doing too badly on my only...
So if anyone here wants to swap sounding board thingies, you read my stuff and I'll read yours, I am game...
#5605
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:11
Firky wrote...
Writing about videogames is good, generally, because you get to talk about something you love and connect with gamers. And you learn HEAPS about the games industry. If you want to do it and can string some words together, just pitch some articles somewhere. You'd be surprised how much in demand reliable "games journos" are. But there are also a lot of downsides, notably having to review gigantic games in a couple of days and connecting with the not so nice gamers. I go really hot and cold on it. Thanks for the discussion. It is killing my desire to be creative at the moment, but where do I want to go? Writing for me and for fun? Writing about games for money and for fun but also the bad stuff. Sigh.
Also, in follow up to last night, I found someone to play Civ V against and got smashed. It was very, very fun and I learned a couple of important lessons. I'll be making an idiot out of myself again on Steam chat tonight, I'm sure.
This sounds helpful and fun... How about blogging it? "Trials and tribulations of a female game journo"?
#5606
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 11:35
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
I perform some of mine in front of dozens of strangers, blog about process, and teach classes on it.
The fanfic, I'm more shy about, but if someone were to ask me about it, you probably couldn't shut me up. That's... pretty typical with me, actually.
#5607
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 12:42
Maria13 wrote...
Firky wrote...
Writing about videogames is good, generally, because you get to talk about something you love and connect with gamers. And you learn HEAPS about the games industry. If you want to do it and can string some words together, just pitch some articles somewhere. You'd be surprised how much in demand reliable "games journos" are. But there are also a lot of downsides, notably having to review gigantic games in a couple of days and connecting with the not so nice gamers. I go really hot and cold on it. Thanks for the discussion. It is killing my desire to be creative at the moment, but where do I want to go? Writing for me and for fun? Writing about games for money and for fun but also the bad stuff. Sigh.
Also, in follow up to last night, I found someone to play Civ V against and got smashed. It was very, very fun and I learned a couple of important lessons. I'll be making an idiot out of myself again on Steam chat tonight, I'm sure.
This sounds helpful and fun... How about blogging it? "Trials and tribulations of a female game journo"?
Haha. My monthly column is exactly about that. This month I'm going to talk about inventory in RPG games - and how I love the old school tetris style ones - girls and organising their handbags, you know?
And I'm still creepy - When I was trying to find a partner for Civ V MP tonight, I have to ask them for permission to provide quotes and screenshots, so I asked people for a "private chat" beforehand to make sure I wasn't wasting 3 hours if they didn't agree to be quoted. I didn't want to reveal myself as a games journo in public chat. Anyway, one person freaked out. Another came private, said "What's a games journo?" and then, after I explained, didn't play me but gave me a quote about how cool he was and said "That's my quote, if you really are a games journo." Sigh.
Anyway, tonight I had a brilliant Civ V MP game lasting 3 hours against a really nice US guy and I just scraped a win. JUST. And he gave 2 perfect quotes. One more to go! 3 in total I need for my article. How much creepier can I get tomorrow?
On the issue of do we tell people we write creatively? No. Except to writers. Why? I think until I have something creative published I'll feel illegitimate. Which is dumb because I would never automatically think "you are crap because you are unpublished" about anyone else.
#5608
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 12:54
Firky wrote...
Maria13 wrote...
Firky wrote...
Writing about videogames is good, generally, because you get to talk about something you love and connect with gamers. And you learn HEAPS about the games industry. If you want to do it and can string some words together, just pitch some articles somewhere. You'd be surprised how much in demand reliable "games journos" are. But there are also a lot of downsides, notably having to review gigantic games in a couple of days and connecting with the not so nice gamers. I go really hot and cold on it. Thanks for the discussion. It is killing my desire to be creative at the moment, but where do I want to go? Writing for me and for fun? Writing about games for money and for fun but also the bad stuff. Sigh.
Also, in follow up to last night, I found someone to play Civ V against and got smashed. It was very, very fun and I learned a couple of important lessons. I'll be making an idiot out of myself again on Steam chat tonight, I'm sure.
This sounds helpful and fun... How about blogging it? "Trials and tribulations of a female game journo"?
Haha. My monthly column is exactly about that. This month I'm going to talk about inventory in RPG games - and how I love the old school tetris style ones - girls and organising their handbags, you know?
And I'm still creepy - When I was trying to find a partner for Civ V MP tonight, I have to ask them for permission to provide quotes and screenshots, so I asked people for a "private chat" beforehand to make sure I wasn't wasting 3 hours if they didn't agree to be quoted. I didn't want to reveal myself as a games journo in public chat. Anyway, one person freaked out. Another came private, said "What's a games journo?" and then, after I explained, didn't play me but gave me a quote about how cool he was and said "That's my quote, if you really are a games journo." Sigh.
Anyway, tonight I had a brilliant Civ V MP game lasting 3 hours against a really nice US guy and I just scraped a win. JUST. And he gave 2 perfect quotes. One more to go! 3 in total I need for my article. How much creepier can I get tomorrow?
On the issue of do we tell people we write creatively? No. Except to writers. Why? I think until I have something creative published I'll feel illegitimate. Which is dumb because I would never automatically think "you are crap because you are unpublished" about anyone else.
Right. Thought so.
People... Don't you love'em? I find the freaker more understandable than the full of 'imself one, who sounds as though he should have been paying a little more attention in school... The media over here in the UK is paranoid about paedophiles and internet grooming and the relationship between games and anti-social behaviour...
No, the reason why I don't tell anyone is because already if I reveal my main hobby is computer gaming, being female and in my late 40s I get these... Looks. So I only 'come out' if the other guy 'comes out'... If I were to say I write fantasy based on a computer game... Well, although I suppose I could say "I write fantasy lit and post it on the internet..." Hummm...
#5609
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:31
#5610
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:35
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
"Hey Soignee, haven't seen you in ages. What you've been up to? How's your art going?"
"Well thanks, been busy with ideas actually. It's not stopped!"
"Awesome! What is it you do now? Still fashion illustration stuff?"
"Sorta. Kinda. I do dwarf porn now."
"..."
"Anyway! How are you? What've you been up to since I saw you at college...?"
#5611
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:51
soignee wrote...
"Sorta. Kinda. I do dwarf porn now."
"..."
I is afeared.
#5612
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:56
jackkel dragon wrote...
soignee wrote...
"Sorta. Kinda. I do dwarf porn now."
"..."
I is afeared.

....This sort of thing, really.
And this- (nsfw), as well of course writing, which has lots of NSFW due to Missa (see icon) being all fighty and sweary and all that fun stuff. Good tiems, good tiems...
So dwarf porn? pretty accurate. Also lulzy to say in public.
Modifié par soignee, 27 septembre 2010 - 03:57 .
#5613
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:13
Oh, I told my mom about my main story. She wants to read it, but I refuse to let her on the grounds that she'd text me every time someone cursed or sex happened and I just don't have time for that.
Modifié par SurelyForth, 27 septembre 2010 - 04:14 .
#5614
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:20
SurelyForth wrote...
Oh, I told my mom about my main story. She wants to read it, but I refuse to let her on the grounds that she'd text me every time someone cursed or sex happened and I just don't have time for that.
lol You could tell her about Worlds Apart maybe, since you practically co-wrote it! There's only one morally questionable scene in it, and it's sort of forced by circumstances, and no cursing, so it might be mommy approved!
#5615
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:25
Sandtigress wrote...
lol You could tell her about Worlds Apart maybe, since you practically co-wrote it! There's only one morally questionable scene in it, and it's sort of forced by circumstances, and no cursing, so it might be mommy approved!
Worlds Apart would break her brain, I think. I could draw diagrams and she'd just sit there sipping her wine, nodding, and then tell me what color she wants to paint the living room.
And she wouldn't disapprove of the sex or language, she'd just have to pretend like she did. So it would be "Oh! I think darn would have worked just as well there...and maybe behind there" or *blushing*, which would just ruin me.
Modifié par SurelyForth, 27 septembre 2010 - 04:25 .
#5616
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:30
SurelyForth wrote...
Sandtigress wrote...
lol You could tell her about Worlds Apart maybe, since you practically co-wrote it! There's only one morally questionable scene in it, and it's sort of forced by circumstances, and no cursing, so it might be mommy approved!
Worlds Apart would break her brain, I think. I could draw diagrams and she'd just sit there sipping her wine, nodding, and then tell me what color she wants to paint the living room.
And she wouldn't disapprove of the sex or language, she'd just have to pretend like she did. So it would be "Oh! I think darn would have worked just as well there...and maybe behind there" or *blushing*, which would just ruin me.
LOL So no complicated family tree drawn by the genetics grad student, huh?
I think there are two people I know in person who know about my writing - one a guy friend who thinks I'm crazy (who incidentally bought DAO because of me) and the other my lab mate, who thinks it's cool and asked to see my story (also incidentally Worlds Apart) when it was done. I don't think she's gotten to read it though, she's had a lot of classwork lately! I tried to give her some game background since she's from India and has never heard of it....we'll see what she thinks!
#5617
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:33
soignee wrote...
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
"Hey Soignee, haven't seen you in ages. What you've been up to? How's your art going?"
"Well thanks, been busy with ideas actually. It's not stopped!"
"Awesome! What is it you do now? Still fashion illustration stuff?"
"Sorta. Kinda. I do dwarf porn now."
"..."
"Anyway! How are you? What've you been up to since I saw you at college...?"
Yes, but at least it's quality and tasteful dwarf porn, right?
#5618
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:43
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
I don't talk about it much, there are a lot of people who know that I write (more that know I write my own stuff than know about the fanfic) but not many that would be interested in it. My mom and my sister have both read some of my fanfic, my mom says it's too angsty (she's right, the first couple of chapters are) and neither one of them are gamers or have any interest in Dragon Age. SInce I'm almost 40 I don't worry about what kinds of things my mom reads in my writing - after all, she's the one that recommended the Kushiel's Dart series as excellent reading (good books, some very mature concepts). My husband does play RPG's but we only have one computer - which I have monopolized since DA:O came out, and he isn't really interested in my writing.
I haven't really let anyone read any of the fantasy series I'm writing - I guess that feels more personal - something that I have a lot more of myself invested in - I talk about it some - more generalized concepts of character and plot development with a couple of my friends who write fanfic (mostly Supernatural stuff) and occasionally with my mom (she finished both a Star Trek novel and her own suspense novel years ago but wasn't able to get either one published).
I would probably wax eloquent in the right crowd, but how often do fanfic writing gamers ever meet, except in the forums?
#5619
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:49
TanithAeyrs wrote...
Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Question to writers:
Do you have trouble talking (aloud!) to people about your creative endeavours? Would you say you keep pretty quiet about it, make some humble response, or do you wax eloquent?
I don't talk about it much, there are a lot of people who know that I write (more that know I write my own stuff than know about the fanfic) but not many that would be interested in it. My mom and my sister have both read some of my fanfic, my mom says it's too angsty (she's right, the first couple of chapters are) and neither one of them are gamers or have any interest in Dragon Age. SInce I'm almost 40 I don't worry about what kinds of things my mom reads in my writing - after all, she's the one that recommended the Kushiel's Dart series as excellent reading (good books, some very mature concepts). My husband does play RPG's but we only have one computer - which I have monopolized since DA:O came out, and he isn't really interested in my writing.
I haven't really let anyone read any of the fantasy series I'm writing - I guess that feels more personal - something that I have a lot more of myself invested in - I talk about it some - more generalized concepts of character and plot development with a couple of my friends who write fanfic (mostly Supernatural stuff) and occasionally with my mom (she finished both a Star Trek novel and her own suspense novel years ago but wasn't able to get either one published).
I would probably wax eloquent in the right crowd, but how often do fanfic writing gamers ever meet, except in the forums?
I've read all the Kushiel books, love them... Shouldn't we make an effort to meet up in RL, though?
#5620
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 05:09
The hard part is the travel - it costs so much to fly anywhere and overseas travel is prohibitive for most of us. That being said, I'm flying into Kentucky this weekend to watch part of the FEI world games (world equestrian championships -first time the games are in the US). PM me if anyone is in that part of the country.
Modifié par TanithAeyrs, 28 septembre 2010 - 02:06 .
#5621
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:33
#5622
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 08:24
I wish I'd known earlier that that the Theirin shield had two red dogs rampant (Mabaris presumably)... I could have used this very creatively earlier on... Still at least I know now.
#5623
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:08
We've talked about how he would react to Fiona being his mother if he was broken (a la Undertow) but how do people think he'd react if he was happy? My Alistair is king, married to a Cousland with a son - the second happiest ending for him I think (happiest being wardens off with his love). So.. what do you think?
Modifié par Miri1984, 27 septembre 2010 - 09:08 .
#5624
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:14
Miri1984 wrote...
Ok, this is an Alistair character question but I'm too nervous to poke my head into the Ali thread to ask it and it's about writing so it goes HERE.
We've talked about how he would react to Fiona being his mother if he was broken (a la Undertow) but how do people think he'd react if he was happy? My Alistair is king, married to a Cousland with a son - the second happiest ending for him I think (happiest being wardens off with his love). So.. what do you think?
Well I think it would also depend on if mum's still alive or not... If Ali is medium happy/happy and she's dead, he'd be disturbed, shaken up and sad. If she's still alive, the first two, though the last might be replaced with anger, "why did you abandon me..." I think ultimately, though, he would overcome that.
It is, however, earth shattering news because it highlights an alien aspect in his heritage of which he was wholly unaware. Although I think he may have some intuitive almost prescient awareness of it, but that might just be me.
I've actually used this plot element in my fic (chaps 24-27).
I am also happy to talk via pm.
Modifié par Maria13, 27 septembre 2010 - 09:27 .
#5625
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 09:18
Miri1984 wrote...
Ok, this is an Alistair character question but I'm too nervous to poke my head into the Ali thread to ask it and it's about writing so it goes HERE.
We've talked about how he would react to Fiona being his mother if he was broken (a la Undertow) but how do people think he'd react if he was happy? My Alistair is king, married to a Cousland with a son - the second happiest ending for him I think (happiest being wardens off with his love). So.. what do you think?
With him in that situation, I think he'd be...not upset, exactly. I think he'd be cautious. This is the sort of thing that, if revealed, could cause him some difficulties with the Landsmeet. Beyond that, it's a situation with the potential for pain and, since he's otherwise happy, he might not think the risk is worth the reward.
But I don't think he'd run her off. I think he'd want to get to know her, as a person at least. However, accepting her as his mother would take a while and he might never be able to have a normal relationship with her, even if things go perfectly.





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