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#5752
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 10:36
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Miri1984 wrote...
PC Powerplay is a print only mag I think? And my icon is my Aedan Cousland from Shades of Grey - I'm finally doing an evil playthrough. Or at least an Aedan playthrough which isn't exactly evil - more of a "what can I get out of this" playthrough.
lol. I read that letter not more than an hour ago. Loved their response.
#5753
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 02:08
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Oh, awesome! Congratulations.Miri1984 wrote...
In other news, my letter to PC Powerplay about their fanfiction DA article was published in the November Issue! Hooray!
#5754
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 04:37
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Life has just become awesome! A whole slew of Tabris related fanfic has hit Fanfiction.net. Should be a really fun Saturday afternoon reading through it all.
#5755
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 05:18
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Any chance you can scan so we can see your letter? (or even the article, that sounds interesting!)Miri1984 wrote...
PC Powerplay is a print only mag I think? And my icon is my Aedan Cousland from Shades of Grey - I'm finally doing an evil playthrough. Or at least an Aedan playthrough which isn't exactly evil - more of a "what can I get out of this" playthrough.
#5757
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 06:42
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Same here! Gratz and I wanna see the letter...
#5758
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 06:57
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Time to play more dragon age to get back into the writing grove. LOL
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#5759
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:44
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Mmmm - we *own* a scanner but I don't think it's been used for about ten years. I shall have a look later on today.
To summarise, though - the article was one that Shadow Of Light Dragon was interviewed for about how female gamers tend to game monogamously. It mentioned Shadow's fanfic The Hunt and had Aimo's fanart of the same as its header. The author also mentioned that she occasionally hangs out here on BSN (not sure who she is though!) and has written a few short stories.
I actually posted the letter I wrote here before I sent it. Trying to find link...
To summarise, though - the article was one that Shadow Of Light Dragon was interviewed for about how female gamers tend to game monogamously. It mentioned Shadow's fanfic The Hunt and had Aimo's fanart of the same as its header. The author also mentioned that she occasionally hangs out here on BSN (not sure who she is though!) and has written a few short stories.
I actually posted the letter I wrote here before I sent it. Trying to find link...
#5760
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 07:50
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Oh, bugger trying to find the link. Here's my letter:
Having been directed to Meghann's article by some friends on the Bioware Community Creations Forum and pulling this months copy of PC Powerplay from it's inevitable home in our downstairs bathroom to read it, I must agree, wholeheartedly, to the idea that the female gamers I know have a propensity for monogogaming. Since I downloaded Dragon Age at the beginning of this year (a Christmas present from my sister-in-law) I have toyed with the idea of the Sims but not touched another game since.
However, I must say that Dragon Age has done more than this for me - to the extent where I've written over 300,000 words of fanfiction in six months, more words than I wrote during my entire two university degrees - possibly more than I have written in my entire educational history.
I've kept my fanfiction secret from my real-world friends and made a group of new ones online who share my obsession and read and review it, along with a few amazing artists who have even gone so far as to draw some of my characters, making me feel at home and welcome in a community of creative types who are not ashamed to be inspired by a game. Of all the semi long term relationships I've had over the years - Final Fantasy, Assassins Creed, Morrowind and Total War (only Rome, of course, the shameless hussiness of Medieval never appealed) none have captured my heart and interest as thoroughly as this gem, and it has been the only one with which I have been tempted to procreate.
Yes, monogogaming is real. But I would go so far as to say with Dragon Age that this particular game has made an honest woman of me. Sure, I may look at others in passing, perhaps even flirt with them. But I hug my Dragon Age babies to my breast and will continue to make more for as long as the world is willing to accept them.
And their response:
We managed to drag Meghann away from Dragon Age long enough for this reply: "No, I do not wish to write a response to Imogen. Stop bothering me. Didn't you hear, the lady has already written 300,000 words? I've written 3 short stories. Oh fine. Imogen, I'm very glad that my article reaffirmed your fidelity to Dragon Age. But if you weren't listening, Dragon Age is mine. Also, the more I lurk in the Community Creations section of Bioware social, the more impressed I am with both the quality of the writing and the supportiveness of the community. Keep up the great work." Cheers, Megha - nope, she's run off!
Having been directed to Meghann's article by some friends on the Bioware Community Creations Forum and pulling this months copy of PC Powerplay from it's inevitable home in our downstairs bathroom to read it, I must agree, wholeheartedly, to the idea that the female gamers I know have a propensity for monogogaming. Since I downloaded Dragon Age at the beginning of this year (a Christmas present from my sister-in-law) I have toyed with the idea of the Sims but not touched another game since.
However, I must say that Dragon Age has done more than this for me - to the extent where I've written over 300,000 words of fanfiction in six months, more words than I wrote during my entire two university degrees - possibly more than I have written in my entire educational history.
I've kept my fanfiction secret from my real-world friends and made a group of new ones online who share my obsession and read and review it, along with a few amazing artists who have even gone so far as to draw some of my characters, making me feel at home and welcome in a community of creative types who are not ashamed to be inspired by a game. Of all the semi long term relationships I've had over the years - Final Fantasy, Assassins Creed, Morrowind and Total War (only Rome, of course, the shameless hussiness of Medieval never appealed) none have captured my heart and interest as thoroughly as this gem, and it has been the only one with which I have been tempted to procreate.
Yes, monogogaming is real. But I would go so far as to say with Dragon Age that this particular game has made an honest woman of me. Sure, I may look at others in passing, perhaps even flirt with them. But I hug my Dragon Age babies to my breast and will continue to make more for as long as the world is willing to accept them.
And their response:
We managed to drag Meghann away from Dragon Age long enough for this reply: "No, I do not wish to write a response to Imogen. Stop bothering me. Didn't you hear, the lady has already written 300,000 words? I've written 3 short stories. Oh fine. Imogen, I'm very glad that my article reaffirmed your fidelity to Dragon Age. But if you weren't listening, Dragon Age is mine. Also, the more I lurk in the Community Creations section of Bioware social, the more impressed I am with both the quality of the writing and the supportiveness of the community. Keep up the great work." Cheers, Megha - nope, she's run off!
#5761
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:17
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Truly great stuff... I can so identify, if anything made me start writing it was DA...
#5762
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:20
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Agreed. I hated writing fiction before Dragon Age. No exaggerating.
Now... um... half a million words? eep.
Now... um... half a million words? eep.
#5763
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:22
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@ Miri Well done! I loved the continued usage of the motif of "monogamous relationship" throughout your response - the only one you've wanted to procreate with, indeed! That amused me greatly, especially because it is so true for me too! Thanks for posting it!
On another note, has anyone actually ever used their own name for a character? I'm tempted to use mine (as it is very much a British name), but the moment I wrote it down it just felt so *weird*. Maybe because my name isn't the most common, so I am not use to seeing other people with it but still... I can't help but be intrigued with the idea of using it. :-/
On another note, has anyone actually ever used their own name for a character? I'm tempted to use mine (as it is very much a British name), but the moment I wrote it down it just felt so *weird*. Maybe because my name isn't the most common, so I am not use to seeing other people with it but still... I can't help but be intrigued with the idea of using it. :-/
#5764
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:27
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I wouldn't, since it would make me want to add my own personality traits into the character, too. But, if I read anything where someone has my name it's odd when they don't seem like "me."
The temptation to self-insert would be a bit too much.
(but then, I have a name that's common for women in the US, men in the UK and Ireland, and was mostly just a last name before the 20th century, so my name wouldn't work at all in a Dragon Age context.)
The temptation to self-insert would be a bit too much.
(but then, I have a name that's common for women in the US, men in the UK and Ireland, and was mostly just a last name before the 20th century, so my name wouldn't work at all in a Dragon Age context.)
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#5765
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:29
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I have a very anglo name - (in case you haven't guessed from my last post - Imogen) and I always name my first character after me. That's the character that does the stuff I would do in that universe.
Needless to say my first DA character ended up dumped by Alistair and then he did the US. Obviously Imogen decisions are not happy ones.
Needless to say my first DA character ended up dumped by Alistair and then he did the US. Obviously Imogen decisions are not happy ones.
#5766
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:36
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That's funny and so true in my case. I've been trying to have an affair with Geralt, and it was getting pretty hot, but Steam decided it was time to pull the plug so I'm back to DA again. Other than that, I haven't been able to look at another game in nearly a year now. WTH?! It's a good name, but not that good, is it? I don't understand it myself.Miri1984 wrote...
Mmmm - we *own* a scanner but I don't think it's been used for about ten years. I shall have a look later on today.
To summarise, though - the article was one that Shadow Of Light Dragon was interviewed for about how female gamers tend to game monogamously. It mentioned Shadow's fanfic The Hunt and had Aimo's fanart of the same as its header. The author also mentioned that she occasionally hangs out here on BSN (not sure who she is though!) and has written a few short stories.
I actually posted the letter I wrote here before I sent it. Trying to find link...
#5767
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:41
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Dragon Age = crack. It's the only explanation I can think of.
#5768
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:43
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I've had that argument with my roommate many times.
"It's not THAT good a game. Play something else!"
"But... you don't UNDERSTAND."
It does have a lot of qualities other games have lacked, though. You can play as a female character and the world actually acknowledges you as such, instead of just the love interest (if there is one). Like... KOTOR, no one noticed if Revan was a woman or man. Even in Mass Effect I can only think of a couple scenes (finding the drunk in the bar on the Citadel in the first, signing up for the Archangel mission in the second) where there were different dialogues if you were a woman. Maybe I'm alone in that, but I do think it adds a huge level of immersion to the world. Since really, if you're some kind of uberwarrior people WILL notice you're a girl.
It also seems like the characters are a lot deeper than in other RPGs, even other bioware games. I don't feel like you ever get to "know" Garrus or Kaiden or Miranda as well as you get to know Alistair and Zevran, for example. (especially Zevran who, IMO, is probably one of the most complex characters ever presented in a video game).
Not to mention the millions of different ways things can be played out. You can run through as good, a pushover, super-religious, bigoted, pragmatic, greedy, evil, cruel... and they'll all vary slightly.
"It's not THAT good a game. Play something else!"
"But... you don't UNDERSTAND."
It does have a lot of qualities other games have lacked, though. You can play as a female character and the world actually acknowledges you as such, instead of just the love interest (if there is one). Like... KOTOR, no one noticed if Revan was a woman or man. Even in Mass Effect I can only think of a couple scenes (finding the drunk in the bar on the Citadel in the first, signing up for the Archangel mission in the second) where there were different dialogues if you were a woman. Maybe I'm alone in that, but I do think it adds a huge level of immersion to the world. Since really, if you're some kind of uberwarrior people WILL notice you're a girl.
It also seems like the characters are a lot deeper than in other RPGs, even other bioware games. I don't feel like you ever get to "know" Garrus or Kaiden or Miranda as well as you get to know Alistair and Zevran, for example. (especially Zevran who, IMO, is probably one of the most complex characters ever presented in a video game).
Not to mention the millions of different ways things can be played out. You can run through as good, a pushover, super-religious, bigoted, pragmatic, greedy, evil, cruel... and they'll all vary slightly.
#5769
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:51
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LupusYondergirl wrote...
You can run through as good, a pushover, super-religious, bigoted, pragmatic, greedy, evil, cruel... and they'll all vary slightly.
Yep gotta love messing with all those dragon age companions and npc's
#5770
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:56
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DreGregoire wrote...
LupusYondergirl wrote...
You can run through as good, a pushover, super-religious, bigoted, pragmatic, greedy, evil, cruel... and they'll all vary slightly.
Yep gotta love messing with all those dragon age companions and npc's
Leliana: I luv da Maker!
Warden: I doo too!
Leliana: Let's be friends!
5 minutes later...
Leliana: I luv da Maker!
Warden: The Maker sucks.
Leliana:
*Leliana disapproves: -20*
5 minutes later...
Warden: I haz Andrastre medals nao!
Leliana: Yay!
*Leliana approves +50*
#5771
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 08:57
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Brand is close to my birth name but isn't a name I go by or identify with and she is incredibly far from my own personality, so I only feel vaguely odd about it. And it was originally derived from an actual character in the game, so there is that. I would never name a character by my current first name (especially not a Cousland).
As for DA...I've played through it over 20 times. Granted, I was sick for much of January and Feburary and had lots of downtime, but I've never had such an intense relationship with a game. Now that I'm writing fic, I don't play nearly as much but the aspects of the game that I love (lore, relationships, the way the world works) can be experienced through writing as much as it can be through playing.
As for DA...I've played through it over 20 times. Granted, I was sick for much of January and Feburary and had lots of downtime, but I've never had such an intense relationship with a game. Now that I'm writing fic, I don't play nearly as much but the aspects of the game that I love (lore, relationships, the way the world works) can be experienced through writing as much as it can be through playing.
#5772
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 09:17
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@Lupus, bear in mind when KotOR and Mass Effect are set. Both are set in the future and in SW female Jedi aren't anything new, so no one really reacting to the fact Revan is a woman isn't that surprising. Much the same thing applies to Fem Shep who is a career soldier and women in the alliance military isn't really news. But it is something interesting to talk about.
As for what really got me into fic fiction well you just have to look at my sig
NWN2 had so much potential that went begging not least because a certain tiefling party NPC wasn't ronmanable by male PC's. Something I felt strongly enough about to correct. The guys got stuck with the creepy druid stalker of the Mere ::shudders:: The girls also got pretty screwed over in the romance department as well.
As for what really got me into fic fiction well you just have to look at my sig
NWN2 had so much potential that went begging not least because a certain tiefling party NPC wasn't ronmanable by male PC's. Something I felt strongly enough about to correct. The guys got stuck with the creepy druid stalker of the Mere ::shudders:: The girls also got pretty screwed over in the romance department as well.
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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 09:25
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@OfficerDonNZ : While I would agree, there are sexist cracks made to femshep in both games- from people of different species. That makes me think things are hardly equal yet, even if it is the future. It was just something they sprinkled in for flavor without really making the world as a whole respond. (although I will agree with KOTOR. But it REALLY lacks the character development of DA. Carth is pretty one-note, Bastila's a little better, but not much.)
#5774
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 09:45
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You do get some on Tatooine. One of the hunters won't stop hitting on you and when you meet his wife she assumes you're one of his women...because you happen to be a woman. It was pretty offensive, really, but they weren't very nice people. I think Jade Empire did a much better job of referencing your gender.
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#5775
Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 09:59
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Yes, you're right! I forgot that scene.
I haven't played Jade Empire in ages. I need to fire that up one of these days...
I haven't played Jade Empire in ages. I need to fire that up one of these days...
