Et tu Tasmen? What is it with those Facebook games? I am addicted to Ghost Hunter, and Farmville. UGH! Popcorn and a flat coke, *giggles*.
Fanfiction Sucks
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, févr. 06 2010 07:23
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#727
Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:12
MireliA
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I was a Mafia wars addict and Farmville. Urgh so many nights I wasted on FB when I could have been doing something else (Twitter perhaps? 
). I still go on but only to catch up with people. *nicks some of Tasmen's popcorn*. Not helping you with the flat coke, you're on your own there
). I still go on but only to catch up with people. *nicks some of Tasmen's popcorn*. Not helping you with the flat coke, you're on your own there
#728
Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:14
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MireliA wrote...*nicks some of Tasmen's popcorn*. Not helping you with the flat coke, you're on your own there
That was last night. Tonight? It's a bottle of pinot noir, some angsty Nathaniel Howe (I will finish this chapter dammit), De/Vision and ice cream sandwiches because that is how I roll... (or so I'm trying to convince myself).
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:17
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Oh, angsty Nate! *swoons*
And you are a girl after my own heart. Can I come over to your place Tasmen?
And you are a girl after my own heart. Can I come over to your place Tasmen?
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Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:23
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Gilgamesh1138 wrote...
Oh, angsty Nate! *swoons*
And you are a girl after my own heart. Can I come over to your place Tasmen?
Maaaaybe... But if you did, I don't think I'd get any writing done.
#731
Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:25
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LOL true! But I would gladly ply you with wine. ^ _ ^
#732
Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:48
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Man, I can't wait till I can drink again. All this talk of wine and soft cheese - JEALOUS!
#733
Posté 22 avril 2010 - 11:53
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Aw little mama. Soon, very soon. And you to can haz cheez and whine, erm wine. LOL!
#734
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:09
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Oh, I'll be whining as well, don't you worry!
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:36
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Miri1984 wrote...
Man, I can't wait till I can drink again. All this talk of wine and soft cheese - JEALOUS!
If that is because you are pregnant, I have two words for you: french baby. *whistles*
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:47
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Miri1984 wrote...
I think this advice is really directed back at me. And yes, I mean adverbs as well. I was a chronic overuser for a long, long time
*phew* I've tried to cut down on my info-dumps*, but dammit, I just like describing things. I want to put images in your head, not just write plot and dialog and stuff, because I want the reader to see at least a bit of what I see! And since I can't art**...
* "tried" being the operative word there.
** Art is now a verb. Yes.
#737
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:49
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Hehe. I'm not a saint, and I do give in to temptation every now and then! I figure it's good for the little ones liver.
Certainly didn't hurt me or my sister! Unless you call an unholy obsession with wine and cheese a problem.
Certainly didn't hurt me or my sister! Unless you call an unholy obsession with wine and cheese a problem.
#738
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:49
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ROFL, me too Odie, I like people to "see" like a movie in your head. One of my favorite chapters I got to be extremely descriptive.
#739
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:51
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DA:O broke me of my Farmville addiction. Best thing it ever did for me. And that's on top of all the people I've gotten to know, the fanfic, AND Alistair.
I know, crazy talk ;P
I know, crazy talk ;P
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 12:52
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I need to get better writing habits, I am seriously bad at writing on schedule at the moment. I just knocked out a stupid short story instead of the fic, WHAT AM I DOING
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 01:10
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soignee wrote...
I need to get better writing habits, I am seriously bad at writing on schedule at the moment. I just knocked out a stupid short story instead of the fic, WHAT AM I DOING
Personally, I've tried to stop writing on a schedule. You end forcing things that way and forced fic is almost always not good fic imho. I try to set general deadlines for when I want to get things out, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 01:15
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Hehe, me too Odie, are we twins? Fanfic has broken me of watching too much TV, and from Farmville and FB in general. I am too busy writing. : D
#743
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 01:16
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It was more the OMG IT'S 3AM I HAVE TO WORK TOMORROW draw of DA:O more than the fanfic. 
#744
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 01:28
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LOL that too! I have looked at the computer clock and had a mild infarction. The aw crap, I have to get up in four hours.
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 02:03
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Fanfic was actually a bit of a moral crisis for me. And, yes, I mean moral. ;P That's why I have a completely different name on FF.net. My original intent was to post anonymously... but then I couldn't TALK to people about stuff, and that was frustrating. I'm acquainted with a really-for-truly-famous author (I am NOT claiming we're friends or best buds or anything like that) and he really looks down on fanfic. I don't want him to find out I've dabbled the next time we happen to cross paths, 'cause he'll give me a serious beat down. As a joke, probably, but still.
I think I just do better with structure. The whole "boundaries can set you free" ideal. And yes, all the groundwork is done for me, so I'm not embracing the whole of the writing and creating process. I get that. Which is why this is all so totally not for serious and I refuse to get my panties in a wad over it in any way.
Though I did just realize that you can change your pen name on ff.net. Hmmmmmm.... Given what I write though, Lothering_Rose an apt name. ;P
I think I just do better with structure. The whole "boundaries can set you free" ideal. And yes, all the groundwork is done for me, so I'm not embracing the whole of the writing and creating process. I get that. Which is why this is all so totally not for serious and I refuse to get my panties in a wad over it in any way.
Though I did just realize that you can change your pen name on ff.net. Hmmmmmm.... Given what I write though, Lothering_Rose an apt name. ;P
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 03:13
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odiedragon wrote...
Fanfic was actually a bit of a moral crisis for me. And, yes, I mean moral. ;P That's why I have a completely different name on FF.net. My original intent was to post anonymously... but then I couldn't TALK to people about stuff, and that was frustrating. I'm acquainted with a really-for-truly-famous author (I am NOT claiming we're friends or best buds or anything like that) and he really looks down on fanfic. I don't want him to find out I've dabbled the next time we happen to cross paths, 'cause he'll give me a serious beat down. As a joke, probably, but still.
I can identify with your creative crisis – especially, how neurotic orbiting around the “literary community” can make you. When I first started at my job, I used to get star-struck when so-and-so Pulitzer Prize winner or so-and-so Emmy winner would be walking down the hall…then *gasp* they would talk to me and some of these accomplished “professionals” were actually reading my work – albeit mostly marking it up in red ink.
There was a time that I believed that these sages, these "People Who Knew Literature, Craft and Narrative" could do no wrong. I mean, that’s what they get paid for right? I forgot that they were people too – people who write emails with typos and often can’t spell as well as their vocabulary would suggest. And of course, they have their faults. Sadly, sometimes they can disparage the work of others because of their own neuroses and blind spots. I’ve got so many stories about what they say about one another’s work behind each other’s back and sometimes in their faces when things get really good.
At its worst, the writing profession can be an elitist occupation because it’s human nature. We all have this inherit need to separate, categorize and develop hierarchies. Even in the most professed “cooperative” groups/communities, someone always has to feel like alpha bi***. I’m not saying that these people don’t know what they’re doing or aren’t astute, nor am I being a complete Pollyanna and everyone’s work is “good.” Just that people often have their own bias and blinders that prevents them from really “seeing” the work. And as a writer, you’ve got to know the value of your own work because sometimes you’ve got to defend it when someone’s being a troll.
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 03:31
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odiedragon wrote...
And yes, all the groundwork is done for me, so I'm not embracing the whole of the writing and creating process. I get that. Which is why this is all so totally not for serious and I refuse to get my panties in a wad over it in any way.
I don’t think you give yourself enough credit here. Just because you didn’t create the world’s foundation doesn’t mean you’re not embracing the writing and creative process. There are plenty of published writers who have made their living adding to or expanding on previous works or the ground work of others. Even the literary fathers – Virgil and Shakespeare for example – were inspired by or appropriated the works of others. Every story’s been written in one form or another and it’s how you tell it that makes it “different.” Good lord, Dragon Age itself borrows heavily from all sorts of places.
I agree that you shouldn’t take some of the fandom snark seriously, but you shouldn't downplay your writing efforts.
Sorry for the lecture everyone - I spent most of the day consoling heartbroken, discouraged writers, each on the brink of quitting their lifelong passion because an editor didn’t “get them.”
Modifié par EtteStarz, 23 avril 2010 - 03:41 .
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 03:38
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Odie, I wonder what your author friend thinks of *published* fanfiction? *points towards the shelves upon shelves of Star Wars novels penned by various authors*
#749
Posté 23 avril 2010 - 04:08
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You know I have gotten the snide put downs when I mention I write fanfic. I put it to jealousy. And as Ette said, all stories have been told, it is how we tell them that makes the difference, because we are different. I appreciate that the author is a published well known author. But I have seen a lot of well known published dreck too. I am not too worried about what your friend thinks of me or my fanfic. And your writing is fantastic odie. You don't give yourself enough credit.
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Posté 23 avril 2010 - 04:30
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Okay, so since everyone has something to say about getting fan fiction reviews. Do any of you want to share one or two of your most touching ones? Yes, all reviews are appreciated and valued (thank you, Gil, Tara and Tanith <3 ). But I’m sure you all have come across an unexpected fan/reader that just made you smile?
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