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[Gilgamesh1138]

@inquartata *hugs tight and hands you a puppy to pet while you ride the unicorn*  I know how you feel, after I wrote one of the most gruesome chapters I have ever written, I needed a shower of puppies and unicorns and kittens and rainbows.  People love the chapter, but it was hard to write.

Modifié par Gilgamesh1138, 03 janvier 2011 - 11:50 .

[Sialater]

Yeah, I apparently write angst well, but it takes a lot out of you.



~passes over the chocolate ice cream~

[Sarah1281]

So I gave in and posted.

I hope the stats are at least retroactive.

[Gilgamesh1138]

I hope so too Sarah!

[Corker]

Heyyyyy FF Sucks thread...

The first time someone told me I should get an external archive, I said, "Ffff, BSN is fine for me."  The second time, I said, "Well, maybe..."  The third time, I came over here to ask questions.

What do you use?  Would you recommend it?

If you were setting up your archive for the first time, what host would you pick?

What sites would you totally avoid?

Other relevant advice or considerations?

[Creature 1]

Archive of Our Own. Not very crowded yet, but I think it will be a lot nicer than FF.net when it's fully opened (it's beta right now). There's also FF.net itself, but it technically doesn't allow sexually explicit content.

[soignee]

 Ao3, ff.net, livejournal and dreamwidth are your best bets.

Some like AO3, I don't. It's a horrible system for searching for stuff, imo. It's apparently more lenient if your work bends towards acquired tastes, but since I am apparently dull and boring, I've never had to bother. < .<

ff.net is looked down as it's popular. It's like people saying, "Dell customer service sucks. I've had such bad experiences with Dell." People apparently do not like the formatting either. I don't mind either Dell or Ff.net, so I might not be the person to point it out. Ff.net has a habit of popping with malware occasionally though, which is bloody annoying.

Livejournal has kink meme, but it also has a dwindling fandom base, and what I think lets it down is that it's too separated now, with barren communities for everything from Leliana, elves specifically to Loghain. I don't like it when fandom does this in general, you're either made to feel a freak for supporting a certain 'ship or character and GTFO TO YOUR OWN HOLE FREAK, orrrrr that you're just doin' it rong in general. I mean, if you're a DA fan you'll have the main (active!) groups on your friend's list anyway, so not sure why the breakdown is actually needed, unless you want to be a member of 35 Dragon Age clubs.

Dreamwidth is... cliquey. I've only observed a few times and posted once, but it's smaller then the livejournal crowds and feels more like I'm stumbling across private conversations rather then being in a community, per se. That's down to size, really. Always happens when fandom shrinks.

...or you could do what everyone else does and CROSSPOAST EVERYWHERRRRRE.

Modifié par soignee, 04 janvier 2011 - 07:42 .

[Addai]

Creature 1 wrote...

Archive of Our Own. Not very crowded yet, but I think it will be a lot nicer than FF.net when it's fully opened (it's beta right now). There's also FF.net itself, but it technically doesn't allow sexually explicit content.

They don't?  Oops.  LOL

[Creature 1]

Yep, http://www.fanfiction.net/guidelines/ It's not strictly enforced but better back up anything explicit you post there in case someone reports it.

[Mahkara]

soignee wrote...

Livejournal has kink meme, but it also has a dwindling fandom base, and what I think lets it down is that it's too separated now, with barren communities for everything from Leliana, elves specifically to Loghain. I don't like it when fandom does this in general, you're either made to feel a freak for supporting a certain 'ship or character and GTFO TO YOUR OWN HOLE FREAK, orrrrr that you're just doin' it rong in general. I mean, if you're a DA fan you'll have the main (active!) groups on your friend's list anyway, so not sure why the breakdown is actually needed, unless you want to be a member of 35 Dragon Age clubs.

Yeah, I'm active on all, but do have to admit that LJ gets a bit irritating, with the 35 or so groups.

Now the <i>nice</i> part about all of the groups is that if you're in say, the Anora comm, you can start a discussion about her without getting the *OMG, she is an evil and horrible b****h, DIE!!!!* flames that you'd get in some comms.  And if you want to avoid the fluff, just stay away from Swooping is Bad.  But, yeah, it makes some conversations really difficult as it's so fragmented (and sometimes you get the cross-posts of doom, although most authors are fairly considerate.)

I agree that DW is pretty cliquey, and is also geared towards the more adult content.  (i.e. porn) 

AO3 is great, but no one seems to read/comment, so that kind of sucks.  It's a great place to back stuff up, though...

And, yeah, ffnet is probably the primary place to post, as people read/respond/whatever.  I like it. A lot of people whine about it.  The formatting is kind of 'meh', and the ads suck, but there are worse things...

[LupusYondergirl]

@Mahkara: While I normally wouldn't advise depriving a free site of ad revenue they need, I really wouldn't go NEAR ffnet without adblock running. I've had their adds try to install things to my computer. If they offered a pay account that did nothing but offered ad-free browsing I'd jump on it in a heartbeat, but while they insist on using the  shadiest ad server on the internet I'll block them for my own system's safety.

It's REALLY REALLY easy to archive on deviantart once you've posted to ffnet. Like, we're talking maybe sixty to ninety seconds of work easy. I put all of AOA on there in an afternoon. Easiest thing is to open the ffnet editor for that specific chapter from your document section, hit the HTML button, and paste it into the text box on DA. Done with all formatting preserved. Seriously easy.

I used to crosspost to AO3 but they are SO DAMNED SLOW. I just got sick of having to wait for pages to load. I keep everything on my hard drive and external, though, so I don't worry much about if ffnet cracks down some day on the smut.

I also post AOA and one shots to peopleofthedas on dreamwidth, and my really trashy stuff I write for kmeme fills to my own dreamwidth account.  I never really got the cliquish impression, it's just a small community.  At least as far as peopleofthedas is concerned everyone is pretty welcoming and friendly.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 04 janvier 2011 - 08:59 .

[mousestalker]

FWIW, I am sitting on a free dreamwidth invite.

[Maria13]

Nothing like saving on your computer hard drive and a flash drive or getting your hubby to create your own website... Although like Soignee says, I post everywhere. BTW there is an adult FF.net and you get good reading figures but not many reviews...

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

It's REALLY REALLY easy to archive on deviantart once you've posted to ffnet. Like, we're talking maybe sixty to ninety seconds of work easy. I put all of AOA on there in an afternoon. Easiest thing is to open the ffnet editor for that specific chapter from your document section, hit the HTML button, and paste it into the text box on DA. Done with all formatting preserved. Seriously easy.

Thank you! I've been wondering if there was a way to cross-post between the sites, having just opened a DA account. I'll have to try this out after work.

Edit: As to Corker's question, atm I just use FF.Net. Unfortunately it screws up formatting, usually in small and hard to find ways. It doesn't like multiple punctuation, like a simple ?! or *** and removes them entirely (which has borked several old stories I cringe at the thought of fixing due to their length). Sometimes it removes spaces and ends up mashing a couple of words together, and you only realise this after rereading the live chapter. So not perfect.

I have an external hard drive, but don't use it to back up my writing. I probably should.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 04 janvier 2011 - 09:19 .

[LupusYondergirl]

Happy to help!  I was trying to paste just the text and made a huge mess of things, but if you use that HTML edit window ffnet pops up it'll come out perfect.  Spaces, punctuation, everything.  Only use I've found for that damned button.  (since really, I know HTML, I'm really good with HTML, I still wouldn't edit a text document in HTML if I wasn't doing funky stuff to wrap text around graphics or something.  And even then CSS is better)

On ffnet after I upload I paste the chapter straight from Word into their document editor and save again. That seems to fix the formatting that gets screwed up when I upload.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 04 janvier 2011 - 09:25 .

[Addai]

I always keep backups, on various drives and on Google docs too just for good measure.  ffnet makes you cull your documents pretty quickly anyway so I can't imagine not doing this.

Since most of us are probably interested in such things, this is a good article on the Battle of Towton (War of the Roses) excavation, with some medieval history bits.  Tad gruesome.

Modifié par Addai67, 04 janvier 2011 - 09:31 .

[inquartata02]

Is ff.net acting... strange for anyone else? I'm getting alerts that new chapters are being added for stories, but when I click on the link, I get an error message. o_O

[LupusYondergirl]

Addai, that's a fascinating read. thank you!

Hmm... haven't noticed any ffnet oddness today, but I did just post a chapter so I should probably check and make sure it's, well, there.

And it's not.  Awesome. 

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 04 janvier 2011 - 10:38 .

[Sandtigress]

This is why I'm afraid to upload this short....ff.net stop acting weird, it's hard to sit on finished pieces!!!!!

[inquartata02]

Yeah, your story (and Cadsuane's) both acted funky. :(

[LupusYondergirl]

FWIW, mine is also here on DA.
This is why ffnet drives me nuts. It's like the site knew we were talking about how unreliable it is and went down to spite us!

edit to add... and NOW it's working.  I swear, if I wasn't so sure webpages lacked sentience I would think it was messing with me.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 04 janvier 2011 - 10:54 .

[inquartata02]

I'm not so sure they don't.

[jackkel dragon]

inquartata02 wrote...

I'm not so sure they don't.

What they lack in sapience they have in intelligence. Which mostly pertains to ****ing humans.

Edit: I thought of at least five ways this post could be read....

Modifié par jackkel dragon, 04 janvier 2011 - 11:56 .

[inquartata02]

And every one of them is making me giggle.

[maxernst]

inquartata02 wrote...

Is ff.net acting... strange for anyone else? I'm getting alerts that new chapters are being added for stories, but when I click on the link, I get an error message. o_O

I'm getting error messages whenever I try to look at my traffic page.