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[Sarah1281]

And now that stats are back, it's taking so long to get the ones from when they were down...

[Maria13]

Yes, but at least they're coming back and I'm thankful for that. I've just now got a few for Monday.

Modifié par Maria13, 14 janvier 2011 - 08:19 .

[Sarah1281]

I've got less than a fifth of what I'll probably get for Sunday.

[LupusYondergirl]

I got a few for monday and sunday right now.

Glad they backfilled since it looks like Tuesday might be the best day I've ever had...



(and two job interviews Monday- both second interviews!)

[Sialater]

Congrats, LYG!

[Merilsell]

Mahkara wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

It's awful feeling writing and re-writing rubbish.

I agree.  I've had days where I've nearly burst into tears over writing the same scene again and again and again and it not working out ever.  

But then when it does finally work out, it is ~*GLORIOUS*~.  (And that last bit means I've been hanging out with the SiB crowd *way* too much. When I start with the glitter banners or sparkle font, I've finally been converted.)

I already have weeks of that, ugh. I'm stuck at a certain convo and can't advance past it for the sake of my life >__> Right now I feel struck by the lightening of dumbness...and the effect simply  won't abate. Really frustrating. At that rate Lenya and Co are going to rot in the Deep Roads So that I won't be finished with OEaH when DA2 comes out goes without saying. Then again the apathy on my care-o-meter for that game has justly reached another low. *shrug*

[Raonar]

I assume it would be too much to hope any part of DA2 will take place in Orzammar?

[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

I assume it would be too much to hope any part of DA2 will take place in Orzammar?

Would we really want that? It seems like it would cause them to minimize the differences between Harrowmont's rule and Bhelen's.

[Raonar]

Well, ten years isn't really a long time. If the visit to Orzammar occurred, say, around the middle of the game, it shouldn't be too hard to pull off.

[Mahkara]

Merilsell wrote...

. At that rate Lenya and Co are going to rot in the Deep Roads So that I won't be finished with OEaH when DA2 comes out goes without saying. 

Hah hah hah.  I'm actually looking forward to DA2 being done before I'm finished writing Diplomatic Relations.  Admittedly, it's an AU, so I can be a bit faster and looser with the plot.  But since it's taking place in Kirkwall, I'm figuring that there should be all kinds of cross over with my story (as Nathaniel is returning there in DR), which should lead to all kinds of juicy side plots that I haven't even thought up yet.   I was  dreading the new game screwing with my stories for a bit, but now am all "bring it on!"

[jackkel dragon]

I've almost resigned myself to finishing Tayte's story "when it's done," even with the huge delay it will have when I inevitably write a novel based on DA2 when that comes out...

Also, I just released my shortest chapter yet. It was the only finished part of the bigger chapter that made Tayte too close to being a Mary Sue, so I decided to fix the Tayte scenes and release this one. Link should currently be in my sig. I'd appreciate thoughts on how I did this particular scene... It was a more unique idea than I usually attempt.

[catabuca]

I was thinking back to someone's post a few pages ago about choosing Dalish clan names (using angel names, which was a really interesting idea I wish I'd thought of ) ... and I started wondering, if Mahariel is the clan name then, does that mean all members of the clan have the same last name, rather than separate family names? I've had a look through the codex and I can't find anything, but I do tend to miss the one piece of information I'm looking for in such situations.

It would be useful to know because someone from Tallis' (I chose his name, finally ) clan will be joining him when he leaves, and although I could avoid the subject altogether I'd prefer to know whether this person is also a Mahariel or if I need to make up a new last name for them.

And in other news, why is it just as I am falling off to sleep I get the most awesome ideas for scenes that I can never quite remember the next morning? I had a pretty hilarious idea for a slightly cracky one-shot of Alistair/Zev, and while I can remember the bulk of it, all the dialogue I thought of that made me giggle to myself like an idiot is now rather patchy in my memory. Damn you, lack of memory recorder *grr*

[Merilsell]

catabuca wrote...

I was thinking back to someone's post a few pages ago about choosing Dalish clan names (using angel names, which was a really interesting idea I wish I'd thought of ) ... and I started wondering, if Mahariel is the clan name then, does that mean all members of the clan have the same last name, rather than separate family names? I've had a look through the codex and I can't find anything, but I do tend to miss the one piece of information I'm looking for in such situations.
It would be useful to know because someone from Tallis' (I chose his name, finally ) clan will be joining him when he leaves, and although I could avoid the subject altogether I'd prefer to know whether this person is also a Mahariel or if I need to make up a new last name for them.

And in other news, why is it just as I am falling off to sleep I get the most awesome ideas for scenes that I can never quite remember the next morning? I had a pretty hilarious idea for a slightly cracky one-shot of Alistair/Zev, and while I can remember the bulk of it, all the dialogue I thought of that made me giggle to myself like an idiot is now rather patchy in my memory. Damn you, lack of memory recorder *grr*

*waves to a fellow Mahariel writer*

Mahariel is not a family name exactly. It is the clan name and the one your Dalish identify themselves from other clans. So my Lenya would formally introduce herself to the others as "Lenya of the Mahariel Clan", or to be really nitpicking; "Lenya of the Grey Wardens, formally of the Mahariel Clan." So all have the same "last name" because the clan is kin and family and the Dalish take proud in that. So all from the same clan are all "Mahariel", to put it simple.

Haha, I know this too well too. My mind is keep fooling me as well, always gives me ideas or complete dialogues when I am unable to write it down on a piece of paper. Under the shower, right before sleeping...it's quite nasty because later I remember only half of it, if at all. Patchy memory indeed. <_<

Modifié par Merilsell, 15 janvier 2011 - 05:09 .

[nos_astra]

What language is Mahariel then? Does it look Elvish?

[catabuca]

Merilsell wrote...

*waves to a fellow Mahariel writer*

Mahariel is not a family name exactly. It is the clan name and the one your Dalish identify themselves from other clans. So my Lenya would formally introduce herself to the others as "Lenya of the Mahariel Clan", or to be really nitpicking; "Lenya of the Grey Wardens, formally of the Mahariel Clan." So all have the same "last name" because the clan is kin and family and the Dalish take proud in that. So all from the same clan are all "Mahariel", to put it simple.

Haha, I know this too well too. My mind is keep fooling me as well, always gives me ideas or complete dialogues when I am unable to write it down on a piece of paper. Under the shower, right before sleeping...it's quite nasty because later I remember only half of it, if at all. Patchy memory indeed. <_<

*waves back*

Thank you, I suspected as much. I think it's the fact that 'Mahariel' is presented in the same way 'Cousland', 'Amell' and so on are, and that threw me slightly. So Tallis wouldn't necessarily introduce himself as Tallis Mahariel, but as Tallis of the Mahariel Clan, and effectively therefore has no last name, but may, for the sake of brevity or clarity when among humans, perhaps refer to himself as Tallis Mahariel. This makes sense, to me at least

It will be interesting though to see if Merrill is given a last name in DA2, and if that will be Mahariel or something else. Because there will be those who will assume it means the warden and Merrill were blood relations, rather than it just being a clan designation, if you like. I suspect they will either not refer to her as having a last name (other than saying 'Merrill of the Mahariel Clan' as above), or will give her a unique last name which would throw a little confusion on the status of the Mahariel name the warden carried. iyswim.

*makes no sense, even to herself*

[mousestalker]

Mahariel is apparently is the name of the angel who is one of the gatekeepers to Heaven. He mans (angels?) the first gate. Mahariel is Hebrew for 'Swift'. All this comes from new agey kabbaleh sites.

Modifié par mousestalker, 15 janvier 2011 - 07:43 .

[Sandtigress]

Actually, there's no game lore that states for sure whether Mahariel is the PC's surname or clan name. I've tried to ask the devs but with no reply so far. I think most of us have assumed that it's a clan name and are just going with that assumption, but there's no hard evidence that I know of to decide for sure one way or another.

We have codex entries written by "Gisharel of the Raleferin clan" which would suggest clan name, but to be totally fair, he could be "Gisharel surname of the Raleferin clan" just as easily. I think you're justified in going either way with it at this point, until the devs clear it up further.

[catabuca]

Sandtigress wrote...

Actually, there's no game lore that states for sure whether Mahariel is the PC's surname or clan name. I've tried to ask the devs but with no reply so far. I think most of us have assumed that it's a clan name and are just going with that assumption, but there's no hard evidence that I know of to decide for sure one way or another.
We have codex entries written by "Gisharel of the Raleferin clan" which would suggest clan name, but to be totally fair, he could be "Gisharel surname of the Raleferin clan" just as easily. I think you're justified in going either way with it at this point, until the devs clear it up further.

Ooh, okay, thank you I don't really want to jump down one way or the other definitively, what with DA2 being so close and the subject will likely come up with Merrill (if not directly then by way of a codex entry about her or some such). There are ways to avoid having to name the clan, or to use last names/clan designations when talking about the various Dalish elves, so even though it would be nice to say one way or the other I think for the time being I'll largely avoid it. If there is any reference to Mahariel it will be solely in relation to Tallis.

[Merilsell]

Sigh...how I love it when characters denies to talk with me for weeks and now suddenly they don't stop babbling anymore.
HEY LENYA, JUST THAT YOU KNOW: I HAVE A PLOT TO FOLLOW. *mutters* Stupid, sturdy Dalish....<_<

*looks at her 4k word WIP-chapter with nothing than convos and bangs head on the wall*

Modifié par Merilsell, 15 janvier 2011 - 10:44 .

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

Actually, there's no game lore that states for sure whether Mahariel is the PC's surname or clan name. I've tried to ask the devs but with no reply so far. I think most of us have assumed that it's a clan name and are just going with that assumption, but there's no hard evidence that I know of to decide for sure one way or another.

In Awakening Velanna just says "you're from Marethari's clan, aren't you?"  Seems like if it was a clan name she would use Mahariel.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Addai67 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Actually, there's no game lore that states for sure whether Mahariel is the PC's surname or clan name. I've tried to ask the devs but with no reply so far. I think most of us have assumed that it's a clan name and are just going with that assumption, but there's no hard evidence that I know of to decide for sure one way or another.

In Awakening Velanna just says "you're from Marethari's clan, aren't you?"  Seems like if it was a clan name she would use Mahariel.

She could, but it doesn't necessarily mean she'd have to. "You're one of Hamish's family, aren't you?" could be just another way of saying "You're from the McDonald Clan, right?"

But the first option would imply more familiarity than the second, IMO.

Edit: I believe we were discussing the family/clan name thing a few pages back? Didn't someone confirm that the Dragon Age Player's Handguide confirms the Dalish surnames are clan names?

Here's a piece from the book:

Dalish elves generally only identify themselves by first name as well, but they also have a clan name that is used in formal situations. Dalish clan names generally correspond to the noble houses of the Dales that they descend from.

Sample Dalish Clan Names: Alvar, Brightmore, Brunwyn, Ellwood, Fadrick, Goldhawk, Litwyn, Redway,
Winbow, Yonwyn.

...Oh dear. Is it just me, or does anyone else cringe at reading some of those clan names? What happened, did they get translated out of elvish? :/

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 16 janvier 2011 - 12:55 .

[Sandtigress]

That's the one source I don't have access to, SoLD. It does seem to indicate that there are no specific surnames outside of clan names, though I think if you really, really, really wanted to you could probably still work around it. Most of us have gone with Mahariel being the clan name though, I think.

And yeah, a lot of those clan names are awful, which is why I ignored them. :-P

[DreGregoire]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Here's a piece from the book:

Dalish elves generally only identify themselves by first name as well, but they also have a clan name that is used in formal situations. Dalish clan names generally correspond to the noble houses of the Dales that they descend from.

Not directed at shadow of light dragon directly, but this doesn't really work out to be an accurate indicator of last (or clan) name use. If clan names come from the noble houses of the dales then as the keeper is changed there is a likelihood that the clans name would be changed based on which noble house the new keeper is from. I changed the facts for my dalish elf but according to information from his nursemaid the pc is the son of the previous clan leader and an outsider. I suppose there is a chance some would keep a previous clan name based on which keeper they were born under. Here's the other thing; I always assumed that there was some moving of the dalish from clan to clan as they came across each other. I mean the pickings would get a bit slim if a clan only interacted with there own dalish.

Just an added; the term clan can be used to describe those you live with or those from which you come. Do you think that all dalish only consider the group they are travelling with as clan or do they feel kinship with other groups as well?

[Sarah1281]

I don't see why it can't work. Say clan Mahariel descended from House Mahariel. Some women or men who were not related to them but married into it would become a part of clan Mahariel. All keepers would be of the clan and all the children born to the clan would be descended from House Mahariel. We know that the DE's mother came from a different clan and yet the DE themselves are still descended from House Mahariel. It works perfectly.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

It only works for so long as the Mahariel bloodline is present in all the clan's elves. A city elf who joins the clan but isn't bonded? What happens if a Dalish elf from a different clan joins Mahariel and marries that CE? Or another CE joins the clan and marries the first? Does an elf who joins the clan HAVE to bond/have kids to be considered Mahariel?

So in terms of bloodlines, I don't think it works perfectly. But the Dalish might not give a crap about being strict about bloodlines. I think simply remembering the roots of the clan is more important to them (although the idea of more violent of 'purist' clans might be fun to toy with).

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 16 janvier 2011 - 03:05 .