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Take Blood Control, which is a high tier spell. The spell is meant to grant full control over another creature's body, which to me implies there has to be a certain amount of concentration and understanding of the creature's anatomy to get it moving properly. Having a remote control in your hand doesn't mean you'll make the mobile airplane fly without nosediving into the ground, it requires practise and familiarity with the controls. Any kid can make the plane move around, but there's a huge difference between trundling along in the ground and doing a barrel roll before taking the plane in for a perfect landing. :)


Unless the airplane is Dragon Eye, in which case you tell it which GPS coordinates to go to, throw it up into the air, and it goes and does it.  ;)

...I have written and deleted this post twice now and I think the best summary is: it's magic.  I know the sorts of technology that *might* be employed to directly control a humanoid robot on a joint-by-joint basis and... it would be really, really, really hard to do, especially if the operator is going to do *anything* else.  (And even then, you'd need autonomous balancing algorithms for the legs/feet or your dude would fall over.) 

I'd just say, "The spell takes talent, power, skill and a lot of practice to use effectively," without dragging anatomy into it, which points to joint-by-joint control, which would just be a non-starter IMO.

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Yeah, I figure if you're a noob at it you're limited to making the person lurch and flail around.  If you're more adept you'd have better control.  But if you were to possess, say, Zevran :P, his usual weapon skills would still go out the window. 

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Take Blood Control, which is a high tier spell. The spell is meant to grant full control over another creature's body, which to me implies there has to be a certain amount of concentration and understanding of the creature's anatomy to get it moving properly. Having a remote control in your hand doesn't mean you'll make the mobile airplane fly without nosediving into the ground, it requires practise and familiarity with the controls. Any kid can make the plane move around, but there's a huge difference between trundling along in the ground and doing a barrel roll before taking the plane in for a perfect landing. :)


Unless the airplane is Dragon Eye, in which case you tell it which GPS coordinates to go to, throw it up into the air, and it goes and does it.  ;)


I hereby dub thee...Blood GPS!

...I have written and deleted this post twice now and I think the best summary is: it's magic.  I know the sorts of technology that *might* be employed to directly control a humanoid robot on a joint-by-joint basis and... it would be really, really, really hard to do, especially if the operator is going to do *anything* else.  (And even then, you'd need autonomous balancing algorithms for the legs/feet or your dude would fall over.) 

I'd just say, "The spell takes talent, power, skill and a lot of practice to use effectively," without dragging anatomy into it, which points to joint-by-joint control, which would just be a non-starter IMO.


Hehe, yes, agreed. I wasn't trying to say that you have to be *intimately* familiar with the anatomy involved, but controlling a human would probably be easier to grasp than controlling a bird on the wing, for instance, purely because they're different, and even birds have to learn how to fly. Another example would be that the spell could enable one to control a target to play a harp, provided the *caster* knows how to play the harp and knows where the fingers have to go. :)

So yes, talent, power, skill and practice.

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I have a question for anyone with a theory....

how is it that people who seem to favorite stories that are VERY unlike yours, then favorite or alert your story? I get the strangest subscriptions from random people.. of course no review, just alerts.

I just find it all rather random and wonder how they come across my stories at all as I do not advertise them around. I'm assuming it's word of mouth but... who knows.

thanks in advanced for any theories. :D

Modifié par Nadia73, 16 février 2011 - 02:29 .


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Assuming you are talking about the fanfiction site. I myself do random searches depending on what kind of mood I'm in. So I'll say hmmm I wanna read a mature story that has this character and this character in it. Or any other variation. Fortunately there are many people who write very differently. I've read alot in my life time and I always seem to enjoy variation in what I read. One day I'm reading about how to perserve foods, the next I'm reading about busines, the following I'm reading some psychology article, and then I settle at my computer and read some fanfiction, then when I'm tired I take my nook upstairs and read either something totally relaxing like a fantasy story (currently reading a series by Tracy Falbe), the other night I read stuff by Jennifer Roberson, or I read something totally naughty. LOL. So for me fanfiction is the same way; I read what I'm in the mood for. :)

Edit: Also I will check out an authors favorite's at times and find fanfiction that way.

Modifié par DreGregoire, 16 février 2011 - 02:58 .


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@Nadia, stories can get around via word of mouth, and other people favouriting you. As users' favourite lists are public, other people can find your story through someone else's faves.



Finally, some people can just favourite in the hopes you will look at their profile/read their story/give them stats. Yes, such people exist. ;)

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Hokay. So. Ven is going to be in a romance with Morrigan. That single element has had me beating myself over the head, searching for a way for it to be in-character. Even so, I don't want to rigidly stick to the Warden romance path. So... The groundwork has been laid, as not only as Ven tried to be as nice as possible to Morrigan, his missteps so far have all been seen in a positive light by her.



On the way out of the Brecilian Forest, he sees some Andraste's Grace and figures 'hey, that's pretty.' Later, on the road to Orzammar, he and Morrigan talk (including stuff about Flemeth's grimoire) and it leads to her offer of sex from the game. The act ensues, set to Leliana's redition of In Utherena. After the act Ven realizes Morrigan just wanted a cheap fling, and understandably is a little put out. He later tries to salvage some sort of relationship, resorting to giving her the flower. Morrigan's reaction is essentially 'lol, what a romantic'.



Events in Orzammar occur, one which I'm disinclined to spoil which hints that Morrigan cares about him more than she lets on. After Orzammar Ven has another demon crazy-break and runs off. Some party members are sent after him, but he has the crazy idea of going after Flemeth. After accomplishing this task, he returns and tells Morrigan he'll always protect her. This leads to the 'oh, I do actually like you' part of the romance.



Don't worry, something horrible will happen to break it even before Morrigan can freak out and push him away. I'm a terrible person like that.



Thoughts/ideas on what Morrigan would do?

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ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

Thoughts/ideas on what Morrigan would do?


Umm.... turn into a cat and scratch him over the face? Or a rabbit and slap him with ehr ears?


Seriously though, why would Ven even take her up on her offer? He played the game and knows Morigan's fling-wantin state, so he could jsut refuse her and say he wants it to be real, or something (or is he vulnerable because of all the abominations tuff?)

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It's no secret he has derpy moments. He's basically going 'omg a hawt girl likes me omg omg omg'. Though Ven didn't play through as a male Warden so he doesn't know what Morrigan's romance path is like, so there's that.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Finally, some people can just favourite in the hopes you will look at their profile/read their story/give them stats. Yes, such people exist. ;)


Pfft, people actually do a favorite for that reason? I usually only do it because I like the story and want to find it again easier. haha. Worse thing that could happen is you went through the trouble once to find a story and then bam you forgot the name and the author and have to cry about your loss or spend hours finding it again. hahah

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okay I don't see the attraction to doing it with a person that is not themselves. LOL. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Anders (in DA2) not just being himself either, that's just creepy. Oh my goodness, I think I've said something similiar about Anders before, doubly creepy. haha

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thanks for the POVs, peeps :D


Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

@Nadia, stories can get around via word of mouth, and other people favouriting you. As users' favourite lists are public, other people can find your story through someone else's faves.

Finally, some people can just favourite in the hopes you will look at their profile/read their story/give them stats. Yes, such people exist. ;)


I actually have these people 'story alert' me instead of favoriting. then I look to see what other stories they like and they are not ANYTHING like dragon age or mass effect or some of the people just have nothing at all, not even a bio. it's just strange that I seem to get more 'out of bounds' people than DA or ME fans  :blink:

thanks again =]

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Some of them are just FF lurkers who sign up to the site just so they can get alerts for stories, I expect :) A few people do register at the site because they found a fic they like and want to keep up with it.

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DreGregoire wrote...

okay I don't see the attraction to doing it with a person that is not themselves. LOL. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Anders (in DA2) not just being himself either, that's just creepy. Oh my goodness, I think I've said something similiar about Anders before, doubly creepy. haha


Maybe a side-effect of a successful Anders romance is Vengeance turning back into justice? :P

Anyway, I'm glad my fiction isn;t at the Flemth killing part yet, because I want to play DA2 first and see her involvement with hawke and all.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Some of them are just FF lurkers who sign up to the site just so they can get alerts for stories, I expect :) A few people do register at the site because they found a fic they like and want to keep up with it.



they could at least leave a review... even if it's in another language :lol::lol:

seriously... hundred+ views a day and I'm lucky to have 5 reviews at the end of two weeks.  :pinched:

but, that's FF for ya.... I think it's mostly fapaholics. :sick:

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XD On average I seriously think you're lucky if 1% of your readerbase leaves a review. :)

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

XD On average I seriously think you're lucky if 1% of your readerbase leaves a review. :)

wow that's really sad :(

I check out some stories here and there, mostly to see what peeps are saying in reviews and some go on and on and on and on and their review is almost a story itself!

I want some FF groupies... the good kind, mind you  :lol:

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Raonar wrote...

Maybe a side-effect of a successful Anders romance is Vengeance turning back into justice? :P


I'm not sure a romance will change Anders' feelings about the circle of magi and the chantry so I can't see that happening, but I suppose anything is possible :)


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Edit: About Reviews and what not

Seriously?!

Are you talking visits or hits? I only count what my last chapter shows as a number.

I'm just happy to see my numbers go up when I update my stuff. I'm sure reviews are nice and all, but I'm writing to share my enjoyment of playing dragon age. If I held out for reviews and fav's and alerts I would have given up long ago. LOL.

Edit 2: Of course my romance fic (that I seperated from the main story) has twice the amount of readers as my other stuff haha. I wonder why that is? LOL

Modifié par DreGregoire, 16 février 2011 - 10:26 .


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DreGregoire wrote...

okay I don't see the attraction to doing it with a person that is not themselves. LOL. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Anders (in DA2) not just being himself either, that's just creepy. Oh my goodness, I think I've said something similiar about Anders before, doubly creepy. haha


I'm wondering if with Anders/Justice you can now get two romances in a single package as it were... That would be interesting especially since it seems likely that what would appeal to Anders would not appeal to Justice and viceaversa.

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Maria13 wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

okay I don't see the attraction to doing it with a person that is not themselves. LOL. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Anders (in DA2) not just being himself either, that's just creepy. Oh my goodness, I think I've said something similiar about Anders before, doubly creepy. haha


I'm wondering if with Anders/Justice you can now get two romances in a single package as it were... That would be interesting especially since it seems likely that what would appeal to Anders would not appeal to Justice and viceaversa.


*giggles*

Anders: oooh, I like that!

Justice: What do you think you are doing?!

*giggles some more*

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@Nadia: Groupies are entertaining! :D



@DreGregoire: Haha, sorry, yes, hits from the most recent chapter. :) I don't usually pay attention to stats, but I did get curious about the hits/review ratio at one stage.



If you guys look at it another way, check out some of the popular art on DeviantArt and compare the views number with the comments number. :)

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

XD On average I seriously think you're lucky if 1% of your readerbase leaves a review. :)

It's an exponential thing, too, I think.  If you go by the lower yellow line (unique views) I'd say I get a quarter of a percent or so leaving reviews in the 48 hours after a chapter is published, a tenth of a percent every other day.  If you go by the actual hits bar... christ.  A hundredth of a percent?  Maybe?  Ugh, math is not my strong suit.

When I had less views my reviewer to viewer percentage was higher.  Maybe as high as ten percent on some chapters, back when I published them.  As my number of daily viewers went up the number of reviewers did, too, although not nearly as much.

My overall views did roughly double when I passed 500 or so reviews, and it went up again when I passed 1000.  So evidently there are people who see a story with x number of reviews and consider that a barometer to pick by of some sort.  But they, themselves, aren't often the type to leave reviews it would seem. 

And this is just for my "main" story.  Which is probably a statistical freak because of how long it's been going.  My other fics and one shots I'd wager come closer to half a percent of unique viewers leaving reviews.

And for the record, I think the Anders thing is completely awesome.  Mostly because I love writing "damn the Chantry" angry mage fics, and this will give me ample fodder, I'm sure.

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DreGregoire wrote...

okay I don't see the attraction to doing it with a person that is not themselves. LOL. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Anders (in DA2) not just being himself either, that's just creepy. Oh my goodness, I think I've said something similiar about Anders before, doubly creepy. haha


Maybe you should see "Being John Malkovich".  It was the only way Cameron Diaz and Catherine Keener could connect.  But yes, I agree the idea of a romance with someone posessed is a bit odd...I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

@Nadia: Groupies are entertaining! :D


*fetches SoLD a cold drink and a chapter review*  We live to serve.  ;)

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I dont have a FF account, otherwise I'd review =x



I try to find the people on here who wrote the stories and tell them on the forums how much I liked their story and why >.> <.<