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[DreGregoire]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Welcome Raonar! *HUGS* ACk I keep forgetting to dump hubby's account and get in under mine...Erynnar. *sigh*

Uhoh. heh, which one is your account? LOL.

[Raonar]

I figured out a cool power for a certain character. The One Man Orchestra power. As in, he can make music sound with just his mind (and some ancient, weird magic). it would, of course, depend on his imagination and composing skills:P

Modifié par Raonar, 26 février 2011 - 09:37 .

[Gilgamesh1138]

@Dre eyrnnar! I keep forgetting to switch over, and I have to make a list of my friends so I can ask you all on my erynnar account. And I need to figure out how to switch my stories over to erynnar from Gilgamesh.

[DreGregoire]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

@Dre eyrnnar! I keep forgetting to switch over, and I have to make a list of my friends so I can ask you all on my erynnar account. And I need to figure out how to switch my stories over to erynnar from Gilgamesh.

Oh no! Not an easy task at all. There isn't a way to switch them over without reposting them . Sounds time consuming.

[erynnar]

Oh dear! That is what I was afraid of. Well if I must I must, but I hate to take up more room on the forum. Thanks for adding me as friend!

[Glorfindel709]

Raonar wrote...

I figured out a cool power for a certain character. The One Man Orchestra power. As in, he can make music sound with just his mind (and some ancient, weird magic). it would, of course, depend on his imagination and composing skills:P

O.O I was planning on having my Mage experiment with creating things in the Fade... including an orchestra that plays in his mind while he's dreaming

[inquartata02]

Oh my.

[Glorfindel709]

Fanfiction Writers, I have a question.

If you base the character in your story off of your canon Warden playthrough, are there any events that you do different in the writing that you can't do in game due to constraints?

Because while my Warden just walked through the Eluvian in game, I have a much more depressing plan taking place just after the death of the Archdemon to possibly be taking place in my story.

[Maria13]

Minor tweaks for dramatic effect in my FF Alistair kills Loghain but still weds Anora...

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

@Glor: I kept everything the same for my post-Blight Warden.

[Esbatty]

@Glor: Warden and Velanna knocked greaves (because I took into account the "Love" glitch I got from giving Velanna all those gifts I held onto and found/bought), despite the fact there is no romance option/Cousland married Anora/followed Morrigan through Eluvian.

[Glorfindel709]

Aha.

See, because my Warden (during the Blight at least) was extremely... zealous in following the "Whatever it Takes" mantra of the Wardens (except on one occasion and that involved that insane nughumper Bronka) and did whatever he had to to gain the allies he needed, win the battles he needed, and basically beat the Archdemon, while struggling with his morality/feelings on the things he was forced to do, and what he knows is his duty.

So when it comes time for Morrigan to offer the DR, at least how she explains it to him, it wont matter if him or Alistair or Riordan die before they can get to the Archdemon, because as long as it's killed, the soul will "go to the child like a beacon". However, since he does live to make the killing blow...(and here we enter the realm where game dissolves away into story) as much as he loves her, he knows that he cannot let the soul of an Old God be born again, especially as a human. So he may or may not try to do something on the Rooftop of Fort Drakon to make sure
the child won't be born... ie kill Morrigan on the roof of Fort Drakon before she can escape.

[Esbatty]

*tears* Oh man, thats ROUGH!

...

Oy, sorry, I'm a Morrigan diehard.

[Glorfindel709]

I'm a Morrigan die hard fan too, I romanced Leliana once for the Achievement and ended up dumping her for Morrigan. She's my favorite character in any RPG I've ever played. But I can't ignore that "tying up the loose ends" is what my Warden would have done. He would have hated himself for it, and it would have given those "disappeared without a trace" epilogues a lot more credence, but yeah.

[DreGregoire]

If you didn't want to have your guy do the deed you could always have Morrigan die during battle. That aside is your warden the type of man that would go back on his word dispite the whole everything it takes to defeat the archdemon? I mean to that point in time you've been focused more on staying alive to get to that point than anything else, would it be so easy after agreeing to the ritual to just change that drive to survive? I'm not your warden so I'm not trying to say what he would do. Just trying to give some feedback

[DreGregoire]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

 him or Alistair or Riordan die before they can get to the Archdemon, because as long as it's killed, the soul will "go to the child like a beacon".

Not knowing exactly how Morrigan's ritual is supposed to work makes it more difficult as a fanfiction writer. I always wondered how Morrigan's ritual was suppose to work if any one of the wardens take the killing blow and not just the one she did the deed with. I wonder what Rhiordan's reaction would have been to still be alive after slaying the archdemon. LOL. I always imagined that there was a bit more necessary on Morrigan's part as the killing blow is taken, some further spell or some such to guarentee the rituals completion.

[Sialater]

Who gives the killing blow doesn't matter. My femElf Mage did it and she certainly had no way of participating in the ritual.

[Merilsell]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Fanfiction Writers, I have a question.

If you base the character in your story off of your canon Warden playthrough, are there any events that you do different in the writing that you can't do in game due to constraints?

Probably a minor thing (or not) but I turned Tamlen's and Mahariel's personalities around, so that my Mahariel is the more reckless, rabid one and Tamlen the voice of sense. Fitted better to my Lenya, that is all. There will also be a change in the RedCliffe arc, but I'm not telling my secrets here.

I still have to figure out how to write the Redcliffe/denerim final part when the archdemon attacks Denerim instead of Redcliffe. The plotholes there boogle my mind.

[Raonar]

Merilsell wrote...

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Fanfiction Writers, I have a question.

If you base the character in your story off of your canon Warden playthrough, are there any events that you do different in the writing that you can't do in game due to constraints?

Probably a minor thing (or not) but I turned Tamlen's and Mahariel's personalities around, so that my Mahariel is the more reckless, rabid one and Tamlen the voice of sense. Fitted better to my Lenya, that is all. There will also be a change in the RedCliffe arc, but I'm not telling my secrets here.

I still have to figure out how to write the Redcliffe/denerim final part when the archdemon attacks Denerim instead of Redcliffe. The plotholes there boogle my mind.

Actually, it's not THAT big a plothole. Basically, Redcliffe is the only domain in Ferelden that is allied with the wardens, and the elves/dwarves/mages are practically preparing and convening and bringing their war supplies there because they have to convene SOMEWHERE. I know the game makes it look like it al happens at once and in a day, but i really don't see how. Basically ,when they decide to honor a treaty, they go to where they can as soon as possible.

Also, that dwarf that asks if house Klaret sent their men or not makes it sound like not all the troops arrived at once.

[DreGregoire]

Okay here's a big important question that I never gave any thought to before until now because I never spent much time writing about Ostagar *giggles* The battle takes place in the early morning? At night? LOL. It's weird because I was just talking to Alistair and when I ask him about the battle he says, "The one tomorrow..." So I was like wait I thought the battle was that night but then I said to myself that that didn't make any sense. LOL. I'll end up replaying that area again to but first I have to finish writing and playing the stuff before the battle hehe

[LupusYondergirl]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Fanfiction Writers, I have a question.

If you base the character in your story off of your canon Warden playthrough, are there any events that you do different in the writing that you can't do in game due to constraints?

Because while my Warden just walked through the Eluvian in game, I have a much more depressing plan taking place just after the death of the Archdemon to possibly be taking place in my story.

Maggie is my cannon import playthrough, and the only Warden I have who actually did Witch Hunt (in game... not in fic, though), and I've changed more than a few things from the game.  Maggie learned blood magic from Jowan when she finds him at Redcliffe instead of the demon, for one, and having Loghain die killing the archdemon but Alistair not marrying Anora (which was my mistake, but I came up with a handwavey explanation of Anora refusing to marry a man who gloated over her father's death and assuming he'd screw up so badly the landsmeet would beg her to come back in a month.)

Oh, and the whole Anders romance thing I added.  I suppose that's not in-game.  For Awakening.

The whole postgame thing I did totally diverges from the epilogue slides, too.

I started writing my first Maggie/Anders fic maybe a couple days after Awakening came out, before the LI letters were found.  Since they were discovered in the code while I was still in the Awakening timeline of the fic, but not implemented, I made a sort-of joke about it- where she got a letter from Zevran and burned it without reading it.  Since I knew there was a letter... but she didn't.

[Glorfindel709]

DreGregoire wrote...

If you didn't want to have your guy do the deed you could always have Morrigan die during battle. That aside is your warden the type of man that would go back on his word dispite the whole everything it takes to defeat the archdemon? I mean to that point in time you've been focused more on staying alive to get to that point than anything else, would it be so easy after agreeing to the ritual to just change that drive to survive? I'm not your warden so I'm not trying to say what he would do. Just trying to give some feedback

It's not changing his drive to survive, it's just he's looking at teh situation in this manner.

1) Riordan has told him that if a Grey Warden does not get the killing blow, Archdemon is basically immortal.
2) Morrigan has provided a ritual that will apparently allow anyone to make the final blow because the taint does not go into the thing that killed it, but speeds like a beacon towards the child. This is a failsafe in case the other Wardens dont survive the Battle, in which case the other warrior going with them (either Sten or Oghren) knows to make the Blow and make sure that Morrigan is protected as best as possible.
3) They survive to the end and deliver the Killing blow. But now that Old God Soul is going to return, this time has a human being and most likely an extremely powerful mage. He might still have the Calling echoing out of him, driving the Darkspawn to the surface. He might become like the Tevinter Magisters of old. And what would happen if he was ever corrupted by the Darkspawn? Another Archdemon, this time in super powerful mage form?
4) In order to alieviate the possible problems stemming from his fail-safe plan, he has to remove the fail-safe from the equation.

Ive had the scene rolling around in my mind for days. During the last part of the fighting Morrigan was smacked by the arch demons tail and thrown through the air, hitting the wall with a loud crack of breaking bone and slumping to the floor. My Warden rushes the Archdemon and uses a modified Haste spell to leap up high enough to land on the Dragons head right as it goes to breath spirit fire onto her, grapples with the Archdemon as it flings its' head and neck around trying to throw him off until he sinks his sword into the archdemons eye and slashes across its' throat. Cue the cutscene we've all seen a hundred times, great big lightbulb in sky, stab in skull, Archdemons down. Gets up and rushes over to Morrigan who has two broken legs and is waiting for a soldier to bring Wynne to fix her legs so she can leave. Warden starts talking to her, asking for more details of the plan (basically take some Witch Hunt dialogue about how I need to know what she's going to be doing with him) and then asking if the ritual succeeded. She says yes and warns me that once Wynne heals her, she's leaving and that I could never pursue her. Warden agrees and  kisses her before mumuring that he was sorry and slipping his dagger up between her ribs into her heart.

Modifié par Glorfindel709, 27 février 2011 - 07:18 .

[Raonar]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

DreGregoire wrote...

If you didn't want to have your guy do the deed you could always have Morrigan die during battle. That aside is your warden the type of man that would go back on his word dispite the whole everything it takes to defeat the archdemon? I mean to that point in time you've been focused more on staying alive to get to that point than anything else, would it be so easy after agreeing to the ritual to just change that drive to survive? I'm not your warden so I'm not trying to say what he would do. Just trying to give some feedback

It's not changing his drive to survive, it's just he's looking at teh situation in this manner.

1) Riordan has told him that if a Grey Warden does not get the killing blow, Archdemon is basically immortal.
2) Morrigan has provided a ritual that will apparently allow anyone to make the final blow because the taint does not go into the thing that killed it, but speeds like a beacon towards the child. This is a failsafe in case the other Wardens dont survive the Battle, in which case the other warrior going with them (either Sten or Oghren) knows to make the Blow and make sure that Morrigan is protected as best as possible.
3) They survive to the end and deliver the Killing blow. But now that Old God Soul is going to return, this time has a human being and most likely an extremely powerful mage. He might still have the Calling echoing out of him, driving the Darkspawn to the surface. He might become like the Tevinter Magisters of old. And what would happen if he was ever corrupted by the Darkspawn? Another Archdemon, this time in super powerful mage form?
4) In order to alieviate the possible problems stemming from his fail-safe plan, he has to remove the fail-safe from the equation.

Ive had the scene rolling around in my mind for days. During the last part of the fighting Morrigan was smacked by the arch demons tail and thrown through the air, hitting the wall with a loud crack of breaking bone and slumping to the floor. My Warden rushes the Archdemon and uses a modified Haste spell to leap up high enough to land on the Dragons head right as it goes to breath spirit fire onto her, grapples with the Archdemon as it flings its' head and neck around trying to throw him off until he sinks his sword into the archdemons eye and slashes across its' throat. Cue the cutscene we've all seen a hundred times, great big lightbulb in sky, stab in skull, Archdemons down. Gets up and rushes over to Morrigan who has two broken legs and is waiting for a soldier to bring Wynne to fix her legs so she can leave. Warden starts talking to her, asking for more details of the plan (basically take some Witch Hunt dialogue about how I need to know what she's going to be doing with him) and then asking if the ritual succeeded. She says yes and warns me that once Wynne heals her, she's leaving and that I could never pursue her. Warden agrees and  kisses her before mumuring that he was sorry and slipping his dagger up between her ribs into her heart.

Hmm, I think I vividly recall someone asking the devs about this, and one of them said that they originally envisioned the ritual as requiring the Grey Warden to make the killing blow, then the archdemon's essence would have to first pass THROUGH him and be drawn out and into the ritual baby.

[Glorfindel709]

Oh I know that Raonar, I remember watching the Q&A it was brought up in as well.

But the point is that the way that Morrigan explains it in the game, anyone can make the blow. They may have envisioned it requiring the killing blow for the Warden, but Morrigans' dialogue explaining the ritual says nothing of the sort. So to a Warden who has been planning and planning and focusing on the death of the Archdemon to have that big bomb dropped on him by Riordan, this seems like the perfect fix as a "just in case" scenario.

Granted, I probably won't do this in the story anyway, but it's a thought I've been having. maybe screw with the readers a little bit, have the scene happen and then suddenly Mahariel Mage wakes up next to Morrigan camping out with the army a few miles from Denerim.

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

It probably makes more sense for the spirit to pass through the Warden, considering there's still a big explosion and suchlike. I read a comic where the Warden did the ritual and passed out so he couldn't stop Morrigan from leaving.

Though how come everyone is so sure Morrigan's ritual will work? Does it work as some sort of magical fertility treatment so she will definitely get pregnant?