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[Esbatty]

My favs/alerts numbers are yo-yoing due to people not licking my use of Sebastian in a cliffhanger to my Merrill fic. Half the people dropped the story from the alerts/favs yet now that I've posted the next chapter older readers STILL stop reading it (apparenty they needed to catch up). But the great thing is I now have a whole slew of new readers that like the turn in the story and are quite pleased.

Its just weird since the categories and the story description specifically state that its not a purely warm and cuddly romance piece, action/adventure had to pop up sometime. Anywho, this is DA2 fan fic related so I'm sorry for derailing. Its been a crazy couple of days.

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

So I finally got into AO3. Posting Life on Thedas - to anyone that's read it, what rating is appropriate? I know I get a bit crazy with the nightmare fuel and violence, but I'd like a second opinion.

[Raonar]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

So I finally got into AO3. Posting Life on Thedas - to anyone that's read it, what rating is appropriate? I know I get a bit crazy with the nightmare fuel and violence, but I'd like a second opinion.

M definitely (16+). I recall the same rating system as the one on FF.net is used, yes?

BTW, in answer to your question about templars having magic resistance, turns out they do, in DA2. 50% or more, if you get the passive end-tier ability.

Modifié par Raonar, 19 avril 2011 - 10:38 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

Raonar wrote...

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

So I finally got into AO3. Posting Life on Thedas - to anyone that's read it, what rating is appropriate? I know I get a bit crazy with the nightmare fuel and violence, but I'd like a second opinion.

M definitely (16+). I recall the same rating system as the one on FF.net is used, yes?

BTW, in answer to your question about templars having magic resistance, turns out they do, in DA2. 50% or mroe, if you get the passive end-tier ability.

On FF it's rated T. >_> Umm, nightmares are good for the soul?

Hooray, DA2 validated me again! (Anders=Ven still creeps be out, tho)

[Raonar]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

Raonar wrote...

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

So I finally got into AO3. Posting Life on Thedas - to anyone that's read it, what rating is appropriate? I know I get a bit crazy with the nightmare fuel and violence, but I'd like a second opinion.

M definitely (16+). I recall the same rating system as the one on FF.net is used, yes?

BTW, in answer to your question about templars having magic resistance, turns out they do, in DA2. 50% or mroe, if you get the passive end-tier ability.

On FF it's rated T. >_> Umm, nightmares are good for the soul?

Hooray, DA2 validated me again! (Anders=Ven still creeps be out, tho)

The odd part is that my own mage has a piece of a Spirit of Honor in his left arm, ever since Chapter 11. And keep in mind I wrote that like.... many months ago, before i even knew your story existed (if it even did back then). Great minds think alike much?

[inquartata02]

Zerban, I'd say T, actually. I don't recall anything explicit in your story.

In fanfic ratings, at least that I've noticed, M pretty much equates there's explicit sex somewhere in the story. Nothing explicit, and T is usually just fine.

Modifié par inquartata02, 19 avril 2011 - 11:52 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

@Raonar: Yes... *suspicious glance*

@inquarta02: Well, there is all the violent sword killing, and the mature themes, and the increasingly more blatant horror/psychological horror tones. Also good old fashioned nightmare fuel.

OK. I FINALLY WROTE ANOTHER CHAPTER. WHOOO. GO ME.

In particular I'm proud of the final argument between Bhelen and Elisa. It was fun to write - I just had this feeling of elation when I realized Elisa was enough of a character that I already knew what she would do in certain situations.

I'd also like feedback as to Bhelen's portrayal. Raonar, I'm looking at you

[inquartata02]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...
@inquarta02: Well, there is all the violent sword killing, and the mature themes, and the increasingly more blatant horror/psychological horror tones. Also good old fashioned nightmare fuel.

Yeah, but nothing that smacks of M to me, not yet, anyway, and I've been reading fanfic since the days of the X-Files. (I've also been a member of FFn for WAY too long. Good lord.)

[Raonar]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

@Raonar: Yes... *suspicious glance*

I'd also like feedback as to Bhelen's portrayal. Raonar, I'm looking at you

Hey, don't look at me like that. The spirit in arm thing is totally justified and temporary-ish anyway.

And I provided the feedback via PM and review already

[Merilsell]

inquartata02 wrote...
In fanfic ratings, at least that I've noticed, M pretty much equates there's explicit sex somewhere in the story. Nothing explicit, and T is usually just fine.

Actually I had the whole beheading stuff and others too and have it still rated at T. I plan to change it to M when Lenya/Alistair are a lot more *friendlier* with each other. So there is some truth to this fanfic rating. Cough.

As for the motivation to write it is not purely the stats-bar, it is the journey itself. I love to write about my odd Dalish cookie and would missing something when I couldn't do that. Reviews and the kind (I had Setrus -- the author of "From Dirt" -- faving my story lately, wow ) are the gratifying part of my work. Though so is the writing itself. Nothing is better in writing than to be content with a finished chapter...or to finish one you struggled with for a long time.

Hard to explain but it is awesome, really.

Modifié par Merilsell, 19 avril 2011 - 04:05 .

[inquartata02]

Merilsell wrote...

Actually I had the whole beheading stuff and others too and have it still rated at T. I plan to change it to M when Lenya/Alistair are a lot more *friendlier* with each other. So there is some truth to this fanfic rating. Cough.

I'll let you know when it needs to change, don't worry. Also: did you get the last chapter I sent back?

Though so is the writing itself. Nothing is better in writing than to be content with a finished chapter...or to finish one you struggled with for a long time.

Hard to explain but it is awesome, really.

I know exactly what you mean.

Modifié par inquartata02, 19 avril 2011 - 04:11 .

[Merilsell]

inquartata02 wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Actually I had the whole beheading stuff and others too and have it still rated at T. I plan to change it to M when Lenya/Alistair are a lot more *friendlier* with each other. So there is some truth to this fanfic rating. Cough.

I'll let you know when it needs to change, don't worry. Also: did you get the last chapter I sent back?

Though so is the writing itself. Nothing is better in writing than to be content with a finished chapter...or to finish one you struggled with for a long time.

Hard to explain but it is awesome, really.

I know exactly what you mean.

Good to know Though it will take some time still until it is time for the saucy bits, heh, And yes, I justly checked my EMails, you did great work like always, you AWSUM beta-woman, you  *hugs* I'd intented to write you back instantly ...but eventually got caught up in mulling over the content of my next few chapters *hides* Will do it later in all its extend, though...I still need to advance in the actual chapter so I have stuff to annoy you with send to you. 

The mage tower with Wynne. Oh joy.

[Elysium-Fic]

So, speaking of stats, this is weird....

Now that they're back up, I look a look and saw something really weird. Normally on a given day, my ratio of unique visitors to hits is something like 1/3 or 1/4. Today, it's more along the lines of 95%, and it's not even a day when I've posted a new chapter.

So, either the stats are still screwy, or my story got rec'ced somewhere and is receiving a boatload of new readers, I guess.

Anyone else noticing something similar?

[LupusYondergirl]

Yes! I had the exact same thing and couldn't figure it out!

Also, going back to the T/M/AO discussion...
I'd say almost all violence in fic could fall under T. Allusions to sex or very, very non descriptive love scenes, maybe, too.
M I'd say would be excessive and highly graphic violence, although I'd think even a battle scene wouldn't need an M (think of the Lord of the Rings movies, for example- they were only a PG-13). That would be the violence that is really beyond the norm. Graphic descriptions of genocide, explicit cannibalism, violence against children, maybe things that could be triggering- sexual assault, child abuse. Something like that. Something beyond horrifying. More explicit sex scenes would rate an M as well.
AO I would say, violence-wise, would probably only be explicit, graphic depictions of sexual assault or child abuse, just because of the social issues tied into those. Graphic, detailed sex scenes. The sort where you spell out just who is doing what when, they're doing more than simply having sex, body parts are mentioned, and it's not all flowery euphemism.
(I think most of my smut would be AO. That's just how I roll.)

[Elysium-Fic]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Yes! I had the exact same thing and couldn't figure it out!

Maybe ff.net changed their cookies or something so that everyone got a new tracking cookie today?

(I think most of my smut would be AO. That's just how I roll.)

Tell me about it.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

I think the visitor/hit ratio has something to do with their trying to retroactively restore all the missing hits from the days when the stats were down. Mine have done the same thing, and I also noticed that the majority of my hits were being assigned to Chapter 3. My fic is currently 5 chapters (I feel like such a n00b), so the slight majority of hits would normally fall to Chapter 1 or Chapter 5. I think in some cases they're just making it up, or applying a law of averages or something.

I'm attempting to write a still-interesting-for-adults T fic. Not that I have anything against M/AO fic --I read Elysium-Fic's smut regularly -- but I know what happens in my story already and there's no smut in it. If it's received well, however, I have a tentative sequel planned in which there will be smut.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 20 avril 2011 - 03:37 .

[Raonar]

So, I was wondering. How much of David Gaider's books have you people alluded to in your fanfictions? I know the Warden doesn't really get the chance to learn anything about that, hence how he's forced to make somewhat uninformed decisions in the game, but did you folks change that bit?

For instance, The Calling shows that there is dwarven construction beneath Ortan Thaig, much like the Primeval Thaig form DA2 (complete with the lack of Paragon statues). Did you allude to it or such? Also, does your warden somehow learn of the Architect and how the Circle was allied with it, and how the grey Wardens almost got Maric Offed, thus shedding some light on just why Loghain dis;ikes the order?

And so on?

Modifié par Raonar, 21 avril 2011 - 11:30 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

Not yet, and I haven't read the books. All I have planned is referencing The Stolen Throne & The Calling in relation to Loghain when it comes up.

[Maria13]

I've read them both but the only direct reference I've used is Alistair's parentage.

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

I just put Ventus through a Mary Sue test. He scored 57, seven points above the 'kill it dead' threshold. What's wrong with this picture?

I hate that test anyway. Half the questions are ridiculously subjective, and none of the questions have the modifiers they really should have (yes BUT and all that).

EDIT: Whoah, I ran Malcolm through for funsies - he's a SEVEN. WAT.

Modifié par ZerbanDaGreat1, 21 avril 2011 - 12:42 .

[Raonar]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

I just put Ventus through a Mary Sue test. He scored 57, seven points above the 'kill it dead' threshold. What's wrong with this picture?

I hate that test anyway. Half the questions are ridiculously subjective, and none of the questions have the modifiers they really should have (yes BUT and all that).

You must have been especially generous with the boxes you filled then. Anyway, as a certain page says:


"Many litmus tests will list traits the author of the test simply does not like to see used in fiction and will try to eliminate it from fiction altogether by listing it as one of the Common Mary Sue Traits, in the hope that it would vanish from fiction as people fearing the "Mary Sue" label will deliberately avoid it."

Maybe you filled the boxes in the sections that don't apply? (like original fiction or something?)

[inquartata02]

Stories with the Warden are almost guaranteed to fail that litmus test by the very nature that the Warden is a playable character from a game, and by definition, overpowered and has too much influence.

As for DG's works, I know I've used them in reference to Alistair's parentage, the Architect, Fiona's taint, mentioning Duncan's background, the events of the Rebellion... I think that's it. Could be more, but DG's work is very useful for background information. Also fun reads.

[Merilsell]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

EDIT: Whoah, I ran Malcolm through for funsies - he's a SEVEN. WAT.

Same as Lenya.

She eats Mary Sues for breakfast, I guess. Anyway I'm not fond of the test myself and did it only for the **** and giggles. Can't take it serious. *shrug*

As for Gaider's books, I have read them afterwards, so after I'd set Lenya loose on poor Ferelden. The only things I have taken from it is his (much darker) vision of the Deep Roads, the enchanted water skin that never run out of water (because how can Oghren have so much booze all the time?) and that Wardens could sense each other through the blood/ feel each others presense. I especially like that the last aspect is canon...because I like the picture of comfortable awareness that you are not the last Warden/alone. Could get annoying with many Wardens around, though xD

Independent of that, I'm a happer camper in the Fiona is Alistair's Mom camp.

Modifié par Merilsell, 21 avril 2011 - 04:20 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

YAAAAAAY! I made another chapter *hugz self*

Spoiler alert, but in it Elisa wtfpwns the Broodmother. Let's just say she isn't pleased that Branka let someone turn into one.

Much as it seems like an odd comparison, I think Elisa's kind of like the Doctor (GEEK ALERT GEEK ALERT) she's quite smart and capable and can talk her way out of most situations, but she's hiding a lot of emotional turmoil and isn't a nice person when she's angry.

[inquartata02]

People at are nice when they are angry scare me.