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[DreGregoire]

Sorry I didn't follow that sentence well. You lost me.

So yeah fanfiction it's fun imagining it but sometimes I get so wrapped up in the ideas and imagining that I don't have time to do the writing. LOL. I feel like I'm losing my momentum. Too late. It's gone. heh.

[jackkel dragon]

I find that fanfic momentum can return when you play the game again, or (In DA games) at least read the codex while the game is running (rather than from online.)

For example, I like DA2 and after my fic for that game started to waver I played the game again and I steamrolled out the rest of the story. Fun times. (Though I also learned that one requires a break from even favorite games... so I played the Witcher and now have new dark and gritty story ideas. ;p )

Modifié par jackkel dragon, 24 avril 2011 - 06:45 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

Ah yes, the Witcher. Ready for some rape and mass murder? Oh wait, that's a Cavia game.

[jackkel dragon]

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

Ah yes, the Witcher. Ready for some rape and mass murder? Oh wait, that's a Cavia game.

Don't forget the elven freedom fighters against racism that are racist themselves. ;p

Just when I thought I was running out of ideas to mess with elves...

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

Decision time!

Geralt: Hmmm, I'm being paid to guard these supplies. But these Scoia'tel people say they have sick and wounded that need them.

GIve them the supplies: An innocent man gets murdered.

Don't give them the supplies: An innocent man gets jailed.

MORALLY AMBIGUOUS CHOICE!

[Corker]

...Arguably, the morally ambiguous choice is whether or not to value Honesty (to one's employer) above Compassion (toward the suffering), absent an option to give the Scoia'tel people some of your money so they can buy the supplies they need.

The (I assume utterly unforeseeable?) consequences are just there to make it dark.

[jackkel dragon]

@Corker: My comments are drifting us off-topic, but the Scoia'tal (or however it's spelled) pay Geralt for the supplies if you let them take the goods. And with Geralt's personality, I doubt he's going to give handouts to those who are asking him to accept on faith that their demands are legitimate (as legitimate as illegal arms trafficking can be, anyway.)

[errant_knight]

And this is why I don't play The Witcher. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and it's so unpredictable as to be random.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Actually, I liked the Witcher (except for the end, which felt too predictable and forced). IIRC (it's been a while) the quest being discussed...initially had nothing to do with the Scoia'tael. You're hired to protect the goods from drowners (a sort of aquatic undead zombie), and when you finish killing these monsters you are surprised by the Scoia'tael.

The elves claim the merchant you are working for is trading them--the goods you're protecting are for them, and being rebels they can only deal with him at night.

Now...the merchant NEVER mentioned the Scoia'tael to you. So either they are lying to you and are thieves, or the merchant decided it wasn't a smart thing to do to mouth off that he's dealing with rebels to a relative stranger (context: this quest you're doing is to earn the merchant's trust. Geralt, being a Witcher, is a monster-slayer).

So you're really put in a position where you don't know what the right course is, you have to trust the Scoia'tael are being honest, that you're trading them 'medicine' and not weapons (they *are* freedom fighters), and you can't go wake the merchant up for verification You just know you were hired to protect his stuff against drowners.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 30 avril 2011 - 06:03 .

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

Not that the Witcher is totally grimdark. It has at least one unambigiously good option - if you let the villagers take the witch then you are a horrible person. Of course you have to slaughter them all to save her, but THE WITCHER! (read that like a wacky sitcom catchphrase)

Not to mention the ludicrous emphasis on 'choice'. The totally innocuous choice as to staying with the Witchers vs going with Triss leads to a slightly different fight near the end of Chapter One. Then Geralt narrates the reason it happened like the player is a four-year-old and the alchemist dramatically says 'if you had known the consequences of your actions, would you have made the same choice?'

Choices can be debated to hell and back, but the consequences are important. Choices at the ends of games and/or with no visible consequences are weak choices. We can talk about moral ambiguity all we want, but making the consequences roughly the same no matter your choice is just an exercise in futility.

Take the Orzammar choice. That's a good ambiguous one. The 'good' one is bad in the long run whereas the 'bad' one is arguably better (Raonar's ranting notwithstanding *trollface). Now, if the same choice was in the Witcher, I'm willing to bet Bhelen would have turned to rape and child molestation before the year was up, and Harrowmont would've started a bloody war with the surface that led to thousands dead. Or vice versa.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I agree, consequences are needed to make choices matter. If the consequences are no different no matter what you choose...well, why give us a choice in the first place?

One thing I really did like about the Witcher is that in the cases of the Scoia'tael vs Order you *could* (always?) pick a neutral path that sided with NEITHER party. You weren't forced to be friends with anyone, but there were consequences to remaining neutral just as there were consequences to picking sides.

It's sort of unfortunate you couldn't tell both sides to go jump in DA2--I can't imagine the endgame playing out very differently if you chose no allies. (but I will stop there lest spoilers be posted)

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

I haven't actually finished the Witcher yet (boring game is boring), but I think the situations are slightly different. The Order are a bunch of racist, fascist pricks that rape and torture one of your elf friends if you help them, and the Scoia'tel are elf Al-Qaeda. It makes sense - in fact, it's the only in-character response - for Geralt to go 'screw you both'.

DA2 can kind of be forgiven for having no neutral option. In the Witcher there's a neutral option because both sides are a-holes and, well, THE WITCHER. Mages vs Templars has that nice 'vicious cycle' element, where it's just not clear who's really at fault. The Witcher has both sides being bad choices, DA2 has them both as good choices.

*UNFORTUNATE SPOILERS*

Either way you take out the main people responsible for the conflict. Just about everything Cullen does shows that the Templars can still be a force for good. In the end it's a question of personal belief.

[DreGregoire]

Hey all I'm trying to figure out some things for writing my fanfiction, mostly in terms of the power the Grey Warden Commander holds. I'm posting the link to my blog about it because it and responses may include spoilers for DA2 and DA:A. Please feel free to comment and give input about it. *hugz*

http://social.biowar...410/blog/40091/

Modifié par DreGregoire, 01 mai 2011 - 02:09 .

[Merilsell]

I'm currently researching to gain a better understanding for fighting scenes...because I struggle with writing those, tbh. Anyway so what's more logical than to start at the basics, then? And I have found two interesting videos of Armor and Broadsword for those interested.

"Conquer" is a well made, educational History-series to learn the basic understanding of weapons and armor (and the right one for noobs like me, lol). And since I have coincidentally found them on YT, I thought I should share 

Edit: Found also the Knife & Dagger  episode.

Modifié par Merilsell, 02 mai 2011 - 04:58 .

[maxernst]

Is there any specific information (maybe in the Calling) about how Anderfels is actually organized, other than that the First of the Wardens also rules Anderfels? There's nothing much in the wiki. I threw some ideas of my own together, but didn't want to violate known lore.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Riordan says a little about the Anderfels in DA:O. You'll have to check, but IIRC he says their king is weak and most of the people look to the GWs to run things. He also expresses sadness/disappointment that the GWs of the Anderfels seem to prefer having control of the country.

[Raonar]

I don't remember anything else in the DA2 codex either, although, admittedly, I didn't really read all of it.

[maxernst]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Riordan says a little about the Anderfels in DA:O. You'll have to check, but IIRC he says their king is weak and most of the people look to the GWs to run things. He also expresses sadness/disappointment that the GWs of the Anderfels seem to prefer having control of the country.

Thanks, SOLD...I'd forgotten that conversation--and in fact forgotten that the First was not the titular ruler of Anderfels.

[Maria13]

Yeah, it's interesting to see that the Order doesn't actually practice in its homebase what it preaches elsewhere. Riordan was distinctly NOT impressed.

[Raonar]

Checked the DA 2 codex again and it seems there really is nothing. it just speaks about some Mount Rushmore-esque depiction of Andraste and of how the land is one of opposites, but doesn't say anything about organization.

[Retrogue]

I have a love/hate relationship with fanfiction because I always feel so nerdy writing it.

[Corker]

What's that line from Dangerous Liasons? "The shame is like the pain; you only feel it the first time."

I started with a playthrough log that was supposed to just be for personal consumption, until my husband convinced me to post it. Now I write smut and serial adventure based on video game characters. Just hang around here long enough and it'll all start to seem perfectly normal, promise.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

The fact that I'm writing a fanfic is definitely something I don't go around telling just anyone I know, because (a) there is kind of a stigma about people who write fanfiction amongst those who don't write or read it and ( even if they were ok with it, you couldn't get anyone to read it unless they also played the same video game. My RL friends and family mostly neither deal with fanfiction nor play Dragon Age, so it's mostly a secret electronic thing that I do. But it's fun anyway, both to write the stuff and to read others'. Who said you can't play make-believe as an adult?

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 03 mai 2011 - 11:24 .

[Addai]

Corker wrote...

What's that line from Dangerous Liasons? "The shame is like the pain; you only feel it the first time."

I started with a playthrough log that was supposed to just be for personal consumption, until my husband convinced me to post it. Now I write smut and serial adventure based on video game characters. Just hang around here long enough and it'll all start to seem perfectly normal, promise.

I feel the shame more than the first time.  There are moments where I'm so ready to take everything down from ffnet, in a fit of horror, and deny that it ever existed in the first place.

Modifié par Addai67, 04 mai 2011 - 04:46 .

[Merilsell]

I have no probs with telling anyone who wants to hear it what I'm doing. The most of them can*t differentiate between fanfiction and own original work anyway. So it is actually funny when I get asked when my book is going to be released after telling them that I write in my free time xD

But then again, I came to love writing and I love to write on my story because it is fun to do. And that is all what counts for me.

So if people think I'm a nerd for expanding the story for my character of a video game in the way I do...well *shrug* I don't care (and maybe I have been one in the first place, lol). I rather write about a video game than to collect teabags or something. Everyone needs a hobby, writing with no strings attached is (one of) mine. And I like that.