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[soignee]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...


So I guess my point is you can always take parts that aren't immediately pertinent and bring them up at another time, if you really want Missa to know the whole of Zev's story. That way you won't have to worry that readers are getting a huge block of game convo, and you can elaborate a bit on the parts that are important to what you're trying to convey.

*hopes she didn't come off as all know-it-allish >.<*

It's am important plot point as I'm using it as a foil for the fact that Missa's just had to kill Leske and his betrayal, as well as her trying to deal with her casteless background and put it in a place with her new life. I've written 1700 words (oyvey) on the Rinna confession scene alone, holy balls.

Sh*t, 9k chapter oh hello ><

[TanithAeyrs]

9K chapter of Missa   .  I can't wait to read it.

Missa having to kill Leske .  I would leave your Zev scene as it is, the whole discussion is very pertinent.

[Gilgamesh1138]

Hey we love the Missa, don't mind a 9k chapter!

[soignee]

it's coming! Just have what I call the "jigaw puzzle" to do, I and join up all the big scenes I'm written and write in the joining scenes. I work weirdly, i envy people who write linearly.

Modifié par soignee, 29 mai 2010 - 04:20 .

[Gilgamesh1138]

LOL and I envy you and Ladyames on this forum. She writes in big pieces and fills in. I write linearly and find that I wish when I am having trouble getting from point A to point B that I could write like you. Kind of like having curly hair and wanting straight and vice versa.

[Tellervo]

Got a question for you guys, important to my fic to get some opinions on this. What do you think are the consequences of a mage's phylactery? Clearly, the Chantry can locate you, but it's a sample of blood and blood magic is pushed as being very powerful. What do you guys think is within the realm of reason there? Not just what the Chantry would do with it, but what could be done with it in general.

[Danijou]

If Anders has killed his hunters a million and a half times, then it stands to reason that however they track the mage, it's done without bringing the actual phylactery with them. Otherwise he would have had it the first time. If that's the case then perhaps they have a magical map with little mage GPS blips, or maybe they can scry through the blood to see the mage's surroundings.

If they can scry it stands to reason why some mages aren't found even when the Chantry has their phylactery - if there's no landmark surroundings, the mage could be anywhere. If it's the magical map, then everyone would simply be screwed if they turned apostate - plus, yeah, that would definitely be in the realms of invasive and likely 'dangerous' blood magic. Being able to scry seems less severe for some reason - perhaps because it's not all-inclusive of Ferelden.

[Maria13]

I say, when in doubt go with Buffy:

XANDER: Why blood? Why Dawn's blood? I mean, why couldn't it be like a, a lymph ritual?

SPIKE: 'Cause it's always got to be blood.

XANDER: We're not actually discussing dinner right now.

SPIKE: Blood is life, lackbrain. Why do you think we eat it? It's what keeps you going. Makes you warm. Makes you hard. Makes you other than dead. (quietly) Course it's her blood.

Modifié par Maria13, 30 mai 2010 - 04:45 .

[Tellervo]

Maria13 wrote...

I say, when in doubt go with Buffy:

XANDER: Why blood? Why Dawn's blood? I mean, why couldn't it be like a, a lymph ritual?

SPIKE: 'Cause it's always got to be blood.

XANDER: We're not actually discussing dinner right now.

SPIKE: Blood is life, lackbrain. Why do you think we eat it? It's what keeps you going. Makes you warm. Makes you hard. Makes you other than dead. (quietly) Course it's her blood.

The question is not about potency, but about what you would actually do with it if you had a mage's phylactery.  I'm having trouble even coming up with generalizations, wracking my brainmeats something fierce.  Surely you mean this as a reference to some particular event in the Buffy mythos, though, and I must confess I never cared for the series, so I don't get it.  Strayed too far from the movie.

Dani: Scrying sounds reasonable, and is what I had assumed, but I take it it's sufficient to deter most mages, so it must be mostly accurate.  And I imagine communicating a location to a group in the field to be the real difficulty in finding a mage who is constantly on the move.

Modifié par Tellervo, 30 mai 2010 - 04:51 .

[Maria13]

Tellervo wrote...

Maria13 wrote...

I say, when in doubt go with Buffy:

XANDER: Why blood? Why Dawn's blood? I mean, why couldn't it be like a, a lymph ritual?

SPIKE: 'Cause it's always got to be blood.

XANDER: We're not actually discussing dinner right now.

SPIKE: Blood is life, lackbrain. Why do you think we eat it? It's what keeps you going. Makes you warm. Makes you hard. Makes you other than dead. (quietly) Course it's her blood.

The question is not about potency, but about what you would actually do with it if you had a mage's phylactery.  I'm having trouble even coming up with generalizations, wracking my brainmeats something fierce.

I don't think Spike's answer is restricted to potency, though of course for many men, potency is life, power and everything flowing from that.  The first thing Spike says is that blood is LIFE (bible).  So you have someone's blood you have absolute power over them.  If I were a templar with a mage's phylactary, I wouldn't only use it to trace them, I would try to use it to weaken and enchant them.  Perhaps a special dispensation from the Chantry can be obtained to do just that for especially dangerous fugitive mages? 

[TanithAeyrs]

Hmm, a phylactery is a small sample of blood so I think there would be two different approaches. First and most commonly would be things you could do without using up any of the blood; less potent things like scrying, perhaps even creating a tenuous link in the fade to a sleeping mage (maybe interfering with dreams?). Second, there would be ways that you could acutally use up some of the blood to create more direct effects - weakening the mage, perhaps damaging or blocking the mage's ability to connect to the fade for a period of time, more direct tracking methods, a blood mage might even be able to use some of the blood to directly affect another mage's mind from a distance.



Being able to use up some of the blood should create much more powerful (but finite) effects, but at the expense of using up some or all of the blood depending on the power and duration of the desired effects.

[Miri1984]

I had the phylacteries being a bit like homing devices - they consist of blood that was once part of the mage, so they want to be back with the mage in some way - creating a pull of direction rather than an ability to scry or manipulate the mage IYKWIM? That would give the Templars enough information to go on but not make it absolutely impossible for a maleficar to escape if they were fast enough.

[HTTP 404]

Although I agree that most fan fiction sucks, its nothing to upset me, I just don't read it. However, I think its cool that people are writing things they are passionate about and maybe 1 in a 10000 will write something amazing. I'll wait for that 1 in a 10000. My cousin grew up reading Forgotten Realms stuff and wrote fan fiction growing up and now he has a few Forgotten realms novels in the bookstores. All power to you writers.

[soignee]

I've finally found a method that makes me write.... Alarm clocks. 30mins srsbzns writing, 15mins break. Yep.

[Miri1984]

Hehe. Soignee, I use that for housework and marking .

[Gilgamesh1138]

LOL I need to try that.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

Although I agree that most fan fiction sucks, its nothing to upset me, I just don't read it. However, I think its cool that people are writing things they are passionate about and maybe 1 in a 10000 will write something amazing. I'll wait for that 1 in a 10000. My cousin grew up reading Forgotten Realms stuff and wrote fan fiction growing up and now he has a few Forgotten realms novels in the bookstores. All power to you writers.

If you don't read any of it...how are you going to find that 1 in 10000? Wait until Bioware/EA releases the rights to have it published?

[HTTP 404]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

Although I agree that most fan fiction sucks, its nothing to upset me, I just don't read it. However, I think its cool that people are writing things they are passionate about and maybe 1 in a 10000 will write something amazing. I'll wait for that 1 in a 10000. My cousin grew up reading Forgotten Realms stuff and wrote fan fiction growing up and now he has a few Forgotten realms novels in the bookstores. All power to you writers.

If you don't read any of it...how are you going to find that 1 in 10000? Wait until Bioware/EA releases the rights to have it published?

Yes to your last question! haha I thought it was implied.  the amazing stories should be amazing enough to be published for me to read (on official websites even).  Im not saying there aren't some amazing stories out there, Im just lazy and unwilling enough to go through all the bad writing to find it.

[Gilgamesh1138]

Sorry, I beg to disagree with you. Your stats are off. I know for a fact there are more well written, and entertaining fanfics than 1 in 10,000. *cough, cough, ShadowofLightDragon, cough* (she is just one of many here). But I understand your reluctance to sift through to find the wonderful pearls in the oyster bed.

If you don't with to read long fanfic, might I recommend the short reading and oh so funny Motivationals thread instead?  It is well worth the price of admission.

Modifié par Gilgamesh1138, 31 mai 2010 - 12:54 .

[soignee]

I take fanfic srsly. I pasted this excerpt:

Missa turned on her heel to see Morrigan staring up at the fractured beam of the tunnel, face turned towards the shaft of light, open and rapt. Dust swirled around her and Missa felt sorry for her friend the witch of the wilds, a woman missing the stars and open air of what she knew.

“It’s a trick you know,” Missa said, and Morrigan finally snapped out of it, looking at her then. “The light, I mean. It makes you think we’re close to the surface, but we’re not. We must be a good twenty miles down.”

“Comforting, Warden,” she replied, a sneer to her voice.

“Light bounces down and gets trapped. It’s an odd thing,” Missa added. “I’d thought you want to know, so you would not be fooled by trickery.”

...with someone who was pysched to use their geology knowledge and have spent the past hour looking at what underground rocks and stuff would be like. I only wanted to know if the science was accurate! Hahaha oh man. Well there goes my writing schedule.

Modifié par soignee, 31 mai 2010 - 01:21 .

[Gilgamesh1138]

ROFL! I love Missa!

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

I take fanfic srsly. I pasted this excerpt:

Missa turned on her heel to see Morrigan staring up at the fractured beam of the tunnel, face turned towards the shaft of light, open and rapt. Dust swirled around her and Missa felt sorry for her friend the witch of the wilds, a woman missing the stars and open air of what she knew.

“It’s a trick you know,” Missa said, and Morrigan finally snapped out of it, looking at her then. “The light, I mean. It makes you think we’re close to the surface, but we’re not. We must be a good twenty miles down.”

“Comforting, Warden,” she replied, a sneer to her voice.

“Light bounces down and gets trapped. It’s an odd thing,” Missa added. “I’d thought you want to know, so you would not be fooled by trickery.”

...with someone who was pysched to use their geology knowledge and have spent the past hour looking at what underground rocks and stuff would be like. I only wanted to know if the science was accurate! Hahaha oh man. Well there goes my writing schedule.

I don't know how that would work, but then again I'm no geologist. Twenty miles is an awfully long way.

[soignee]

I don't know how that would work, but then again I'm no geologist. Twenty miles is an awfully long way.

That's exactly what he said too, regarding miles. I changed it from 50 miles too, but the Deep Roads are, uh, deep. Geology is f*cked in this game-- the lava in Orzammar would be solid thanks to being so close to the surface.



But the light fracturing thing works, especially if rocks like mica:

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

I don't know how that would work, but then again I'm no geologist. Twenty miles is an awfully long way.

That's exactly what he said too, regarding miles. I changed it from 50 miles too, but the Deep Roads are, uh, deep. Geology is f*cked in this game-- the lava in Orzammar would be solid thanks to being so close to the surface.

But the light fracturing thing works, especially if rocks like mica:

Yeah, it could be possible if the ventilation shafts that gives you air are coated with mirrors or something (both of these gives my inner nerd rage).

And it isn't lava, it is magma.

[TanithAeyrs]

Herr Uhl wrote...

soignee wrote...

I take fanfic srsly. I pasted this excerpt:

Missa turned on her heel to see Morrigan staring up at the fractured beam of the tunnel, face turned towards the shaft of light, open and rapt. Dust swirled around her and Missa felt sorry for her friend the witch of the wilds, a woman missing the stars and open air of what she knew.

“It’s a trick you know,” Missa said, and Morrigan finally snapped out of it, looking at her then. “The light, I mean. It makes you think we’re close to the surface, but we’re not. We must be a good twenty miles down.”

“Comforting, Warden,” she replied, a sneer to her voice.

“Light bounces down and gets trapped. It’s an odd thing,” Missa added. “I’d thought you want to know, so you would not be fooled by trickery.”

...with someone who was pysched to use their geology knowledge and have spent the past hour looking at what underground rocks and stuff would be like. I only wanted to know if the science was accurate! Hahaha oh man. Well there goes my writing schedule.

I don't know how that would work, but then again I'm no geologist. Twenty miles is an awfully long way.

Hi Herr, waves.

@EA-Bioware: The point is many FF writers take as much or more care with their research than many published authors.  I spent a whole day researching 3 masted frigates so I could write 2  chapters on Isabela's ship. 
Most of us are testing the waters with our writing skills, and, in many cases, finding that the deeper water is just fine.   There certainly are plenty of FF writers who still need to develop their skills (myself included).  But there are so many authors, including most of the contributors to this thread, who are more skilled than some published authors I have read.  I'm not saying that you should read FF if you don't like it, but don't condemn those of us who are trying to polish our writing skills and produce some fun reading in the process.