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[Gilgamesh1138]

Oh I would love to see it, please tell us how it went when you see it. I need a Shakespeare fix, and I haven't any way to fulfill that need at the moment. I have to live vicariously through you.  And et tu Lupus?  I too have a cast of thousands.

Modifié par Gilgamesh1138, 01 juillet 2010 - 03:18 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Stats seem to be working again

[Corker]

Morrigan: Where hast thou been, Mother?

Flemeth: Killing nugs.  Daughter, where thou?

Morrigan: 
A Loth'ring wife had toxins in her lap
And brewed, and brewed, and brewed
"Give me," quoth I
"Aroint thee, girl!" the rump-fed ronyon cries
Her husband's to Antiva gone, seeking work in city
But in a sieve I'll thither sail
And like a rat without a tail
I'll do, and I'll do, and I'll do

Flemeth: I'll give thee a wind

Morrigan: Thou'rt kind.

Flemeth: And yet another

Morrigan: 
And I myself have all the other
And the very ports they blow
All the quarters that they know
I will find him there
I will drain him dry as hay
Sleep shall neither night nor day
Close his eyes nor rest his head
I shall keep him to his bed
Weary sennights nine times nine
Shall he dwindle, peak and pine
If his heart cannot be lost
Yet it shall be tempest-tost
Look what I have

Flemeth: Show me, show me

Morrigan:
Here I have a husband's thumb
Wandering and faithless scum

[Drum within]

Flemeth:
A drum, a drum!
The Wardens come!

[soignee]

*snort* ilu, Corker. That was genius.



I came here to moan that this chapter can go two ways. One is... sad, and Missa ****s up big. The other is, I think, more predictable and would be expected of her. Not sure what to pick. My gut leans to the **** up, but I think I'm going to make people mad.

[Corker]

Hard to say without knowing why she'd do the unpredictable/unexpected thing. Sad fic for sad fic's sake... neh. Sad fic for solid story purposes and character development... absolutely.

I really like to use the "a year from now" test. A year from now, when the fic is done and it's quiet on ff.net, when you reread this chapter, which way will make you proud of your writing and which way will make you... less than proud?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Whichever way you choose, soignee, make sure it's something Missa would actually *do*. And as for people getting mad...daunting, I know, but they'll have to get over it. It's your story.

[Gilgamesh1138]

People just need to pull up their big girl Missa panties...yeah, do what Missa would do, and *shrug it they get mad, they get over it.

[Sialater]

Don't cop out because of fans. I may be expecting a lynch mob, but The Rescue's still MY story (with the exception that everything is owned by Bioware) and I'll do what I want with it, dammit.



However, if it's not justifiable according to what you've written so far (like totally out of left field for Missa) then don't do it. But if it's a logical screw up due to Missa not having all the information she needs, or jumping to the wrong conclusion, then go for it.

[soignee]

The problem I am having is that it's really pivotal to her story, and the entire point of the fic. The story is about a former murdering duster trying to redeem herself, and to be a believable warden.

If I go one way, people reading it will be all, "ah yes, I can see that happening, it makes sense," but to me it feels too smooth and predictable.

If I go another it's a curveball and a jolt to the story. It's her causing such a mess despite good intentions. It's also very dark, and is a step away from achieving any redemptative qualities that being a warden brings, but shows Missa thinking like a general and not a scrapper.

Whatever I pick, it set the tone for the story regardless, and influence the other chapters like crazy. This is why it's being so awkward to write!

[Gilgamesh1138]

Can you find a happy medium? A mix of screw up that doesn't set off a bomb blowing all good intentions and being a good warden to hell and back?


With that said, which do you want for Missa.  If you want her to be a duster who turns into a decent warden, and that is her evolution... then it seems to me you already answered your question on which way to go.  It may seem predictable and smooth to you, but you are the only one who has the whole story and all the details in your head.  We won't necessarilyt see it as predictable and smooth as the readers.

Modifié par Gilgamesh1138, 01 juillet 2010 - 03:39 .

[Leeaire]

So Hurricane Alex is to the south of us here in my city...but all the wonderful rain and wind is making for a great atmosphere. I dont know whether to sleep or write. lol

Modifié par Leeaire, 01 juillet 2010 - 06:23 .

[soignee]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Can you find a happy medium? A mix of screw up that doesn't set off a bomb blowing all good intentions and being a good warden to hell and back?


With that said, which do you want for Missa.  If you want her to be a duster who turns into a decent warden, and that is her evolution... then it seems to me you already answered your question on which way to go.  It may seem predictable and smooth to you, but you are the only one who has the whole story and all the details in your head.  We won't necessarilyt see it as predictable and smooth as the readers.

I need to sit down and thinkkkkk some more. This chapter is officially the most difficult thing i've written so far. damn.

[Gilgamesh1138]

@ leeaire, LOL, I love the rain. Great for writing and napping!



@soignee, whatever you do, it will be great. This I am absolutely sure of.

[LupusYondergirl]

Corker wrote...

[Drum within]

Flemeth:
A drum, a drum!
The Wardens come!

BRILLIANT!  I am in awe!

[Leeaire]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Corker wrote...

[Drum within]

Flemeth:
A drum, a drum!
The Wardens come!

BRILLIANT!  I am in awe!

It reminded me how much like the witches in Macbeth.

[Gilgamesh1138]

@corker I you!

[LupusYondergirl]

I adore Macbeth. I wrote a massive paper on it last semester, comparing how the way Lady MacB is presented in act 1 scene 5 will completely change the audience perception of her husband.

If you're a fan I can't recommend the 1979 Trevor Nunn directed RSC production with Judi Dench and Ian McKellen enough. Stylistically I love Polanski's (as much as I loathe him as a human being) but those two really embody the characters like no one else I've seen.



wow, sorry. I'll stop Shakespeare geeking all over everything now.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I have never read Macbeth, so I feel I am missing the joke. ;_;

soignee wrote...

The problem I am having is that it's really pivotal to her story, and the entire point of the fic. The story is about a former murdering duster trying to redeem herself, and to be a believable warden.

If I go one way, people reading it will be all, "ah yes, I can see that happening, it makes sense," but to me it feels too smooth and predictable.

If I go another it's a curveball and a jolt to the story. It's her causing such a mess despite good intentions. It's also very dark, and is a step away from achieving any redemptative qualities that being a warden brings, but shows Missa thinking like a general and not a scrapper.

Whatever I pick, it set the tone for the story regardless, and influence the other chapters like crazy. This is why it's being so awkward to write!

Personally...I have always been a big fan of the hero(ine) taking a bad fall on their journey to self-growth, then recovering afterwards and learning from their mistakes. Causing a huge mess doesn't mean that a character can't eventually bounce back, maybe even be stronger/wiser as a result, but it can depend on the repercussions.

If you think Missa can still find her redemption after this curveball of yours, if it makes sense for it to happen and you think you can deal with the tone of the story that will result from this choice, then I say go for it.

[Gilgamesh1138]

@Lupus, I love both actors! Dame Judi Dench is fantastic, as is Sir Ian McKellen. I must check out that version! Thanks my fellow lover of the "Scottish Play". ROFL, every time I call it that I think of that episode of Black Adder.

[soignee]

ahahah! plot is formed for chapter, noaw I write. I owe three people a hugeeeeee favour for helping me detangle the mess the story was in, now I just got to put it all together. This is going to be a huge chapter, I forsee 2 parts >.>

[Gilgamesh1138]

*does happy dance for more Missa*

[Raonar]

Gilgamesh1138 wrote...

Can you find a happy medium? A mix of screw up that doesn't set off a bomb blowing all good intentions and being a good warden to hell and back?


With that said, which do you want for Missa.  If you want her to be a duster who turns into a decent warden, and that is her evolution... then it seems to me you already answered your question on which way to go.  It may seem predictable and smooth to you, but you are the only one who has the whole story and all the details in your head.  We won't necessarilyt see it as predictable and smooth as the readers.

That happy medium is really hard to achieve Gilgamesh especially for a supposed murdering duster as she claims. And, by contrast, a noble DN Prince like the dude I'm writing about (going AU BADLY on that one, though I got mostly good reviews so far, albeit from the same Sarah1281, ancestors preserve her :innocent:) will find it quite hard to stick to his ideals without causing a LOT of injuries, of all kinds, to himself and a lot of other people.

Still, I only managed to read the first chapter of Missa's tale (I did enjoy it btw), so I may not be the best person to comment. But if you want suspense, you could always skip ahead of a certain event and, later, do a retcon of what led to that situation, for instance.

Either way, keep up the good work.

[Leeaire]

Writing battle scenes are fun...kinda like writing love scenes without all the head shaking as you realize how rotten you really are.

[soignee]

Leeaire wrote...

Writing battle scenes are fun...kinda like writing love scenes without all the head shaking as you realize how rotten you really are.

BINGO. I love battle scenes for this reason. I just wrote one and now not sure if people will read it or just scroll by, I'm told it's not on the top list of Things To Read in a DA fanfic.

Raonar wrote...

Still,
I only managed to read the first chapter of Missa's tale (I did enjoy
it btw), so I may not be the best person to comment. But if you want
suspense, you could always skip ahead of a certain event and, later, do a
retcon of what led to that situation, for instance.

Either way,
keep up the good work.

Thanks! The first four chapters really make or break readers of "eh, do I want to read this" as it's origin specific and doesn't include the companions, but is important as I really needed to show where Missa came from and what she is.

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

Leeaire wrote...

Writing battle scenes are fun...kinda like writing love scenes without all the head shaking as you realize how rotten you really are.

BINGO. I love battle scenes for this reason. I just wrote one and now not sure if people will read it or just scroll by, I'm told it's not on the top list of Things To Read in a DA fanfic.

I read it, but it isn't essential. It's like sprinkles, multi flavored sprinkles at that.