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Legion and the N7 Armor Piece?(Spoilers)


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RogueWriter3201

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This one is fairly simple and too the point. I never really have the chance to flush out all of Legion's conversations since you get him late in the campaign and I always rush to save my crew after the Collectors attack on the Normandy, since I learned the Hard way that if you do anything other than head right through the Omega Relay after the obductions you loose almost all the non-essential personnel (even Kelly). So, even though I have plenty of Paragon Bonuses to keep both Tali and Legion, I never really get a chance to talk to him past one or two conversations. I know when you ask him about the Armor and why he kept it, Legion simply says, "Data not available." So...does he ever clarify? Why would a Geth who is not an individual in the strictest sense of the term choose to keep a momento of Commander Shepard?

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No he does not. I think it was put it to involve speculation. Maybe even a ME3 mission or convo about it.

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Maybe he admires Shepard for his/her heroic deeds, but isn't aware of that? Since admiration is a feeling, and he doesn't really have any. He's like a robotic Conrad Verner! And he doesn't even know it.



...At least that's how I understood it.

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He tells you why he's wearing a piece of your armor - he needed to patch a hole in his chest.

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I think he missed the other big hole in his chest then.

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Proud Larry

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Eumerin wrote...

He tells you why he's wearing a piece of your armor - he needed to patch a hole in his chest.

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Probe further and Shepherd asks why he waited so long to fix it, why he didn't use some other armor, why it only decided to fix the hole after it found his.

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OfTheFaintSmile

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Legion scoffs: "Because I'm just complicated, Mmm'kay?!"

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Eumerin

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Proud Larry wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

He tells you why he's wearing a piece of your armor - he needed to patch a hole in his chest.

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Probe further and Shepherd asks why he waited so long to fix it, why he didn't use some other armor, why it only decided to fix the hole after it found his.


Uh...  you did note the "innocent whistle" emote at the tail end of my post, right...?

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KalosCast

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It was implied in the promo material that Legion is a total Shepard fanboy.



Expect sex in ME3.

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Wolverfrog

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I assumed it was because he is subconciously wanting to be individual. He is different from the rest of the Geth, he tells us that himself. Perhaps he admires and wants to be like Commander Shepard, a hero, without even knowing it. Poor guy. Legion was easily my favourite character in Mass Effect 2.



Also, did the guy voicing Legion voice a robot in Shadow the Hedgehog? They just sound very similar.



I can't talk to Legion without thinking about Shadow the Hedgehog.



:(

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My theory.....



He got a copy of the Shepard VI from Mouse "I delete data like you on the way to real errors".

I mean com'on, its not hard for a geth to get on the Citidel (Talk to customs with Legion in your group).



Or (The real one)

Geth are starting to individualize, and he's come to admire Shepard.

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Proud Larry

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Forgive me. I have an incurable condition that causes me to take everybody seriously.



I can't help myself, it's a sickness!

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Sleepicub09

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this is quoted out of the artbook pg.10



Originally added to the concept just for fun, Shepard's N7 armor became an integral part of Legion's appearance and back story.

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He wants to be just like you when he grows up

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Raygereio

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glenboy24 wrote...
I know when you ask him about the Armor and why he kept it, Legion simply says, "Data not available." So...does he ever clarify? Why would a Geth who is not an individual in the strictest sense of the term choose to keep a momento of Commander Shepard?

Maybe he honestly doesn't know or doesn't understand his reason for doing it. Emotions can be funny like that. Err, wait, do Geth have emotions?

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I think "There was a hole" line, has more to do with the geth evolving as a race then just patching up a hole in his suit. The geth want to believe they have a soul, and to believe that you have to be able to feel. Legion has a hole that he (correction: they are trying to fill.

Modifié par KOS-MOS56, 06 février 2010 - 10:26 .


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I think Legion's choice to use Shepard's armor is a hint that the Geth are more individualistic than Legion himself believes to be the case. When Legion chose to use Shepard's armor it was an act of individual sentimentality, hence when you press him (er, it) on why he chose to use Shepard's armor Legion is unable to adequately explain because he does not accept that he could be capable of an act of individual sentimentality.

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Actually he explains he needed it to repair his chest Which when he repaired he got shot by a rifle. Shepards ask him why did he use his armor and not scrap and he evades the question,

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Majpain007

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Dbl post.

Modifié par Majpain007, 06 février 2010 - 10:39 .


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he says "no data available" which I figure is geth for "i dunno."

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Are you guys stupid? He explains how he gets it. I'll elaborate...



If you talk to Legion enough and do his Loyalty mission, you can ask him about the armor. He says he goes to the planet you crashed on and retreives it after his search for you. He didn't find you, but he found your supposedly fallen and damaged armor. That's all he says about it.

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Are you stupid? (See what I did there?) We know how he gets it. We're more interested in why he uses it to repair himself. And in the end he does avoid the question.

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he didnt even do a very good job fixing the hole... it looks like it got blasted AFTER he used the armor to fix it.

Edit: granted the  fact that there was anything at all left after atmospheric reentry is miraculous.

Modifié par BigKahuna25, 06 février 2010 - 11:12 .


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gethsemani87

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Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but I am getting some Battlestar Galactica vibes here. Legion is obviously a geth and as such consider itself a part of a great unity. However, it can be noted that Legion builds up consensus (notably during the loyalty mission) on matters. Had the Geth simply been machines, as Legion himself tries to imply, they would have all agreed on one course of action.



The fact that Legion has been on its' own and has been experiencing things that millions of other geths haven't probably means that the entity (all thousand Geth AIs that compose Legion) is slowly developing a perception of the universe that differs from the rest of the Geth. The whole deal with the heretics also add some credability to the idea that the Geth are slowly developing identities. Legions decision to wear a piece of Shepards armor can probably be seen as an act of self-identification. In its search for Shepard, Legion has come to identify with the mission and perhaps even the values which the Geth are looking for in Shepard.

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gethsemani87 wrote...

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but I am getting some Battlestar Galactica vibes here. Legion is obviously a geth and as such consider itself a part of a great unity. However, it can be noted that Legion builds up consensus (notably during the loyalty mission) on matters. Had the Geth simply been machines, as Legion himself tries to imply, they would have all agreed on one course of action.

The fact that Legion has been on its' own and has been experiencing things that millions of other geths haven't probably means that the entity (all thousand Geth AIs that compose Legion) is slowly developing a perception of the universe that differs from the rest of the Geth. The whole deal with the heretics also add some credability to the idea that the Geth are slowly developing identities. Legions decision to wear a piece of Shepards armor can probably be seen as an act of self-identification. In its search for Shepard, Legion has come to identify with the mission and perhaps even the values which the Geth are looking for in Shepard.


That's what I was thinking too. Or maybe it's just that I want Legion to be a invidual, no matter how many entities are being run on that platform.

Plus, it was hinted in a preview that Legion is obsessed with Shepard - although that didn't really come across in the game for me.