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#51
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MerchantGOL wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

If you people are going to be biased then that's your options, but don't say Miranda had no personality, just admit you can't read, or you prefer boring aliens, or crackheads.


I can read your just  shallow and like her cause shes hot, sad really

No, I like her b/c she had a wait for it....personality. Again you're choice not to like her, but to say she was boring or whatever...is obviously on you, don't blame the character.


Lol miranda having a personality :D in her chest maybe


You really fail...

The Cerbus dynamic
Her father using her with forced engancments
Her sister
Peolple neglecting her, using her a tool
Her loyality to TIM
Finding her true personality

etc....just stop...in a game with tali and jack...Miranda was the only choice.

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Jersey75639 wrote...

 I think the main reason people dislike her is because they think she was designed to just be eye-candy and want to feel like they're original, so they dislike her on principle.  Anyone that actually goes through the character's potential dialogue though sees that she does actually have personality and she's fairly well written.  Not the best character I've ever seen, but a long way off from the worst.
I would probably agree that she's the best LI in ME, 1 or 2, though.  Tali doesn't appeal to me (very highschool feel to it imo), ash is boring, Jack is a ****, Liara is blue and goes through a drastic and unrealistic (imo) change.


I'm not trying to say that she isn't interesting, she just isn't likable. Hitler is interesting, still an ass.

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i love Miranda

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F3ralCr wrote...

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F3ralCr wrote...

She's by far the most boring chracter in the game. Take ANY female lead in ANY cheesey action movie of the last decade and she'd be the exact same person.


No...just...stop....


What do you mean? She's the epitome of the "bad girl with daddy issues" archetype. The new "female leads have to be independent to sate the femenists but vulnerable and hot enough to give the guys a woody" fad that's hit hollywood like a plague.



.... Also, Dimmu rules.


Yeah Dimmu Borgir own,s. But Miranda was so much more than that. Whe was conflicted about loyalties, enhanced to be the perfect female, the dynamic with her sister, cerberus, TIM, her spot on the mission. Seriosuly, you're calling her boring in a game with Jack and Tali?!

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-excellent VA

-most interesting backstory - my favorite personal quest

-very useful squadmember

-she isn't ugly



I love her!

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Jersey75639 wrote...

 I think the main reason people dislike her is because they think she was designed to just be eye-candy and want to feel like they're original, so they dislike her on principle.  Anyone that actually goes through the character's potential dialogue though sees that she does actually have personality and she's fairly well written.  Not the best character I've ever seen, but a long way off from the worst.
I would probably agree that she's the best LI in ME, 1 or 2, though.  Tali doesn't appeal to me (very highschool feel to it imo), ash is boring, Jack is a ****, Liara is blue and goes thrugh a drastic and unrealistic (imo) change.


But thats not true ive done her dilouge tree, nad her loyalty quest

and other thne her soft spot for her sister and daddy isues theirs nothign to her,


shes robotic and has no Real character devlopment except for in the last 5 minutes


then compare her to the other  Li's who's characters devlope every time you talk to them

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Twitchmonkey wrote...

I'm not trying to say that she isn't interesting, she just isn't likable. Hitler is interesting, still an ass.


Comparing her to hitler is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?  But I guess it gets your point across.  Agree to disagree.

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From the waist down I have no problems (as I'm sure is the case with many others). Personally, I don't really care much for her as a character. She's just too complacent, mundane an' unenthusiastic.

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Jersey75639 wrote...
Comparing her to hitler is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?  But I guess it gets your point across.  Agree to disagree.


On the internet, comparing anything you don't like to Hitler is cruise control for win.

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Miranda rocks, simply put. Just look everyone, lay down your arms and sign a peace treaty for heavens sake. It's not that serious. I actually laugh at this whole situation, there is no hard feelings.

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DeathCultArm your crush on her is cute but both jack and tali are a million times more intresting then her cause they have...wait for it....almost their.....PERSONALITY



hell jacob is more interesting then her






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Jersey75639 wrote...

 I think the main reason people dislike her is because they think she was designed to just be eye-candy and want to feel like they're original, so they dislike her on principle.  Anyone that actually goes through the character's potential dialogue though sees that she does actually have personality and she's fairly well written.  Not the best character I've ever seen, but a long way off from the worst.
I would probably agree that she's the best LI in ME, 1 or 2, though.  Tali doesn't appeal to me (very highschool feel to it imo), ash is boring, Jack is a ****, Liara is blue and goes through a drastic and unrealistic (imo) change.


Nail on the head. 

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banshee768 wrote...

She's a vast improvement over Ash.



BLASPHEMY!!!! BURN!!!!

At least Ash had a god damn personality. And Miranda, for all her genetic upgrades, has a fugly face

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MerchantGOL wrote...

DeathCultArm your crush on her is cute but both jack and tali are a million times more intresting then her cause they have...wait for it....almost their.....PERSONALITY

hell jacob is more interesting then her. and this is my humble opinion



fixed.

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DeathCultArm wrote...

F3ralCr wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

F3ralCr wrote...

She's by far the most boring chracter in the game. Take ANY female lead in ANY cheesey action movie of the last decade and she'd be the exact same person.


No...just...stop....


What do you mean? She's the epitome of the "bad girl with daddy issues" archetype. The new "female leads have to be independent to sate the femenists but vulnerable and hot enough to give the guys a woody" fad that's hit hollywood like a plague.



.... Also, Dimmu rules.


Yeah Dimmu Borgir own,s. But Miranda was so much more than that. Whe was conflicted about loyalties, enhanced to be the perfect female, the dynamic with her sister, cerberus, TIM, her spot on the mission. Seriosuly, you're calling her boring in a game with Jack and Tali?!


I think her story was interesting and well-written but I just think her personality is so bland. Nothing she said in the dialouges made me smile, frown, or laugh. Nothing involved with her tugged on my heart strings or made me want to really learn anything more.

Jack is another story. If she were actually really powerful then I would have thought everything about her was more interesting in stead of her coming off as all bark and no bite. Jack is in the same league as Miranda as far as I'm concerned.

Tali is (obviously) my favorite but I found Samara to be the most interesting. (just to give you a base to compare what I've said about Miranda to)

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Doc Bacon wrote...

banshee768 wrote...

She's a vast improvement over Ash.



BLASPHEMY!!!! BURN!!!!

At least Ash had a god damn personality. And Miranda, for all her genetic upgrades, has a fugly face


That and ashe actual has some character devlopment

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i like Miranda more than tali if you ask me

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Tali has more character development? What? How so? (You can't include Mass effect 1 because its not fair to the other two that weren't in that one) Her character changes as you speak to her? Not true. She thanks you a few times and then says she's interested in and acts like school girl. Jack is the most interesting of them all her scenes are more cinematic so maybe I'll agree with you on that one. But just because a girl isn't bouncy bubbly and energetic doesn't mean she lacks a personality. It may not clash with what you like but it doesn't mean she lacks personality.

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adam_grif wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

This is the worst thread ever.


Yep.

It's laughable watching people claim she has no personality, when she has plenty. Apparently being hot = not having any personality? Maybe they just missed the personality because they were staring at her chest during conversations, and I really can't fault them for this. But it's definately there folks.

No shes an emo, a senile hanar would know the she has personality, the fact is, well shes just so usuall, typical hot love interest, MY DAD WAS AFTER ME, HELLP, please, im busy saving the galaxy

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I think her story was interesting and well-written but I just think her personality is so bland. Nothing she said in the dialouges made me smile, frown, or laugh. Nothing involved with her tugged on my heart strings or made me want to really learn anything more.

Jack is another story. If she were actually really powerful then I would have thought everything about her was more interesting in stead of her coming off as all bark and no bite. Jack is in the same league as Miranda as far as I'm concerned.

Tali is (obviously) my favorite but I found Samara to be the most interesting. (just to give you a base to compare what I've said about Miranda to)

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I can agree with that.

Modifié par Voicebox, 06 février 2010 - 08:58 .


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I thought she was a fine character.

Take that as you will ;)

Modifié par CreepingGeth, 06 février 2010 - 08:59 .


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CreepingGeth wrote...

I thought she was a fine character.

Take that as you will ;)


And I find your Geth forum name coupled with a Turian avatar to be QUITE PUZZLING!

Take THAT as you will!

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I think taking her on you squad for a few of the key missions, and paying attention to the dialogue with and about her, you get a lot more than if you start off trying to find reasons to dislike her, which is what I think a lot of miranda-haters are doing.



To explain the character as I see her, she is very loyal to cerberus which you see from the beginning. What you don't see at the start is why. When she cut ties with her dad, cerberus was the organization that was willing and able to keep her from her dad. Without them, she would still be stuck in a situation where she has no control. Then, you find out that cerberus has also been protecting her sister, so she has to believe that cerberus is doing the right thing, otherwise she has put herself and her sister in a very bad situation. Her devotion to them, therefore, isn't based on some hatred of anything that isn't human, but rather it is based on neccesity. However, you get the sense as the mission goes on in Jack's loyalty mission and in the abandoned collector ship that she is slowly coming to realize that not everything cerberus does is for the greater good, and eventually she does cut ties with them if you defy the elusive man in the end and destroy the ship. I do think the argument with jack seems to be contrary to this development, and I think that one incident could have been handled better, but that came just as much from Jack as it did from Miranda.



This isn't the whole of the character, only one aspect (her loyalty to cerberus and how it develops through the game), but I really don't feel like typing it all out from my cell.... still, I don't get how people can say she is boring when they pay attention to things like this.

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adam_grif wrote...

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Though I will certainly join up for a Jack hate thread.


Something we can agree on.

- Hates everybody.
- Self-proclaimed b-itch.
- Generally unappealing personaltiy.
- Not really all that useful in game.
- Extremely unattractive due entirely to being totally covered in tattoos.


Disagree 100%

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I don't hate her, but she very rapidly became completely forgettable for me.