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[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Maybe they wanted to but they ultmately failed with Jack.

your in the minority in thinking that

[DeathCultArm]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It seems to me that ripping apart a space station with her mind demonstrates power whether or not the guards or mechs were trying to kill her. Yes, it was cut scene power, but last I checked, cut scenes in the game are about as canon as it gets.

Also, when she's insisting that she had it worse than the other kids in the lab, it came across to me as something she wasn't convinced of, but something she needed to tell herself due to not being able to handle the fact that kids died so she could live. Which seems pretty reasonable to me, especially since none of her defenses work very well against that, so all she had was denial.

But she never seemed that powerful in game, not once. And I can kind of agree with trying make herself believe she had it worse. She doesn't change the fact that she really handled everyhing in the worst way possile.

Well it would be a bit overpowered and mess up the gameplay if you could run around in game with Jack and Samara just laying waste to every enemy in sight like they are supposed to be able to do.  

And there's no doubt that Jack handles a lot of things very poorly.  But it's not that hard to see why she handles things the way she does with her background, even if we disagree with her choices being the best course of action.  

I understand that, but at least make her specail on some accounts, and no I don't mean warp ammo. And choices to make sense, to an extent. Sure they make sense, but don't at all make for an enjoyable character, but that's just me. It was jjust too much. She was over the top in every possible category.

[Alasted]

I could see what they were trying to do with her character, but I never did warm up to Jack.

[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It seems to me that ripping apart a space station with her mind demonstrates power whether or not the guards or mechs were trying to kill her. Yes, it was cut scene power, but last I checked, cut scenes in the game are about as canon as it gets.

Also, when she's insisting that she had it worse than the other kids in the lab, it came across to me as something she wasn't convinced of, but something she needed to tell herself due to not being able to handle the fact that kids died so she could live. Which seems pretty reasonable to me, especially since none of her defenses work very well against that, so all she had was denial.

But she never seemed that powerful in game, not once. And I can kind of agree with trying make herself believe she had it worse. She doesn't change the fact that she really handled everyhing in the worst way possile.

Well it would be a bit overpowered and mess up the gameplay if you could run around in game with Jack and Samara just laying waste to every enemy in sight like they are supposed to be able to do.  

And there's no doubt that Jack handles a lot of things very poorly.  But it's not that hard to see why she handles things the way she does with her background, even if we disagree with her choices being the best course of action.  

I understand that, but at least make her specail on some accounts, and no I don't mean warp ammo. And choices to make sense, to an extent. Sure they make sense, but don't at all make for an enjoyable character, but that's just me. It was jjust too much. She was over the top in every possible category.

shes the only npc that can uses Shockwave that makes her special atleast gmae play wise

[DeathCultArm]

It never panned out...And she could've been compelling.

[77boy84]

Neither of you guys are going to change your mind.

How about you just stop posting?

[tmp7704]

DeathCultArm wrote...

But she never seemed that powerful in game, not once.

This is likely due to shortcoming of the game engine -- the station desctruction thing is made to look like it's effect of Jack's shockwave ability, but the game you get to play doesn't actually support destructible environments aside from occasional crate. Fairly sure they'd make her capable of really ripping through stuff and walls like she's supposed to if they could, otherwise.

[MerchantGOL]

She IS a compelling character

[DeathCultArm]

tmp7704 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

But she never seemed that powerful in game, not once.

This is likely due to shortcoming of the game engine -- the station desctruction thing is made to look like it's effect of Jack's shockwave ability, but the game you get to play doesn't actually support destructible environments aside from occasional crate. Fairly sure they'd make her capable of really ripping through stuff and walls like she's supposed to if they could, otherwise.

Yeah there really should've been something to demonstrate her powers, but it never resonated.

[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

But she never seemed that powerful in game, not once.

This is likely due to shortcoming of the game engine -- the station desctruction thing is made to look like it's effect of Jack's shockwave ability, but the game you get to play doesn't actually support destructible environments aside from occasional crate. Fairly sure they'd make her capable of really ripping through stuff and walls like she's supposed to if they could, otherwise.

Yeah there really should've been something to demonstrate her powers, but it never resonated.

what are you talking about?

[GenericPlayer2]

Ok I completed the playthrough (my 4th) and finally succeeded in getting only Jack killed. I did her loyalty quest and sided with Miranda in the aftermath. I took Jack with me to final fight with the human reaper and she died. No other casualties on my team. I can rest a bit easier now that my 'personal canon' playthrough is ready for ME3...whenever that comes out!

[asaiasai]

Protest bump



http://social.biowar...1/index/4676160

[JohnnyBeGood2]

DeathCultArm wrote...
Reasons: bald, small breasts, gothic lipstick, basically naked, crappy tattoos, cliche, annoying, cold, randomly swears, fought with Miranda, etc.
Chidish, brash, non-chalent, overkill archtype, too easy to hate, the list goes on...

mysogynist, superficial, ordinary, unoriginal, pot calling the kettle black on half the list & someone who has to beat on others when they've had a bad day....

the ME2 writters added a squaddie who basically has a history of anger against people like you OP... can you see why?

[Pacifien]

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ETA: Also, threads concentrating on outright hate will likely to locked because it promotes a hostile rather than productive discussion of the issue.

Modifié par Pacifien, 05 septembre 2010 - 06:53 .