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[Dark_Caduceus]

She's stupid and irritating, like a bratty snot-nosed kid. My least favourite character easily. Also, chances are she smells really bad.

[DeathCultArm]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Every oen deals with that  crap in difrent  ways, have you honestly never her d  of people acting out and being self destructive because of child hood abuse


They wouldn'v been untrusting, but not nearly as hard to deal with.

You have obviously never talked to a Person who was abused as a child

One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

[Gerudan]

morrisbrown wrote...

Anyway, I thought she was one of the better characters in the game. She kind of reminds me of Ana Lucia from Lost. She was victimized and left vulnerable, so now she's deathly afraid of being put into that position ever again. At the end of the day, all she really wants is someone to hold her, make her feel loved for who she is, etc...

Agreed and the romance conclusion with her is probably the most touching moment and the best romance scene in the game. 

Specialy compared to the blunt scene with Miranda. 

[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Every oen deals with that  crap in difrent  ways, have you honestly never her d  of people acting out and being self destructive because of child hood abuse


They wouldn'v been untrusting, but not nearly as hard to deal with.

You have obviously never talked to a Person who was abused as a child

One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

Jack isnt that person all the time

[morrisbrown]

DeathCultArm wrote...

No one else asked for Cerberus files. No one elses had a fiight with another member(except Tali, and she is just as bad) Hell, not everyones else trusted Cerberus but they didn't let that get in the way of anything. I'm not saying she had to love Shepherd but she couldn't even have a talk w/o reventing in to her" deep, dark, and tortured past".

Technically, no one else had their lives completely destroyed Cerberus' twisted experiments.

[izmirtheastarach]

DeathCultArm wrote...
One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

Considering that her childhood was institutionalized torture, and her teenage years consisted partly of running for her life, and occasionally being violently gang-raped, I have trouble believing you have friends like that.

Though I suppose if you are saying the character is too over the top in every way, I suppose I can't argue against that. But her scarring is consistent with her background, if you hear all of it.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 06 février 2010 - 10:16 .

[MerchantGOL]

[quote]DeathCultArm wrote...


[/quote]

No one else asked for Cerberus files. No one elses had a fiight with another member(except Tali, and she is just as bad) Hell, not everyones else trusted Cerberus but they didn't let that get in the way of anything. I'm not saying she had to love Shepherd but she couldn't even have a talk w/o reventing in to her" deep, dark, and tortured past".
[/quote]if any thign their should of been more confrontatiosn

Jacob & Thane

Grunt & mordin

any way jack wanting the files was perfectly resonable,

and she dosent complain about her **** any mroe then any one else dose

[GenericPlayer2]

tmp7704 wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

Way ahead of you buddy! Unfortunately you cannot sent Jack through the tubes, she is not an option for that. I didn't have her loyalty, did not upgrade her, and she was still very difficult to kill.

I think when you take two members in the final fight with you, the one who doesn't have loyalty for you will die in the end. Perhaps that could be the ticket?

This is my most promising lead yet - Just to be clear here, should I not have her loyalty, or not have her loyalty AND not do her loyalty quest? I was hoping to do the quest for XP and so I wouldn't have to look at her naked body.

[AtreiyaN7]

She was interesting once you got into her story. I'm a female, and I'm not interested in her romantically (Thane I was interested in though). However, I do think the whole hate thread thing is kind of silly, so I'm voicing support for Jack.

[77boy84]

[quote]MerchantGOL wrote...

[quote]DeathCultArm wrote...


[/quote]

No one else asked for Cerberus files. No one elses had a fiight with another member(except Tali, and she is just as bad) Hell, not everyones else trusted Cerberus but they didn't let that get in the way of anything. I'm not saying she had to love Shepherd but she couldn't even have a talk w/o reventing in to her" deep, dark, and tortured past".
[/quote]if any thign their should of been more confrontatiosn

Jacob & Thane

Grunt & mordin

any way jack wanting the files was perfectly resonable,

and she dosent complain about her **** any mroe then any one else dose

[/quote]

When did Grunt and Mordin fight?

[MerchantGOL]

[quote]77boy84 wrote...

[quote]MerchantGOL wrote...

[quote]DeathCultArm wrote...


[/quote]

No one else asked for Cerberus files. No one elses had a fiight with another member(except Tali, and she is just as bad) Hell, not everyones else trusted Cerberus but they didn't let that get in the way of anything. I'm not saying she had to love Shepherd but she couldn't even have a talk w/o reventing in to her" deep, dark, and tortured past".
[/quote]if any thign their should of been more confrontatiosn

Jacob & Thane

Grunt & mordin

any way jack wanting the files was perfectly resonable,

and she dosent complain about her **** any mroe then any one else dose

[/quote]

When did Grunt and Mordin fight?

[/quote]

i didnt say they did i said they should

[DeathCultArm]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...
One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

Considering that her childhood was institutionalized torture, and her teenage years consisted partly of running for her life, and occasionally being violently gang-raped, I have trouble believing you have friends like that.

Though I suppose if you are saying the character is too over the top in every way, I suppose I can't argue against that. But her scarring is consistent with her background, if you hear all of it.

Not to that extent...Not I don't know peoplw who were consistently gang-raped. Still if someone is that tortured for so much of their life, why are they so brash, and in your face? She should've been more subdued and laid back or something. It's hard to sympathize for someone when you're on a suicide  mission

[tmp7704]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

This is my most promising lead yet - Just to be clear here, should I not have her loyalty, or not have her loyalty AND not do her loyalty quest? I was hoping to do the quest for XP and so I wouldn't have to look at her naked body.

I have no idea honestly; whenever people mentioned that it's always said the person who died wasn't loyal but i don't remember if anyone ever clarified the lack of loyalty was just result of conflict with other crew member or skipping the personal quest altogether.

edit: alternatively, you could try something like picking Jacob as your biotic for the escort part, take Jack with you and hope she's the one that gets eaten by the swarm?

Modifié par tmp7704, 06 février 2010 - 10:24 .

[DeathCultArm]

[quote]MerchantGOL wrote...

[quote]DeathCultArm wrote...


[/quote]

No one else asked for Cerberus files. No one elses had a fiight with another member(except Tali, and she is just as bad) Hell, not everyones else trusted Cerberus but they didn't let that get in the way of anything. I'm not saying she had to love Shepherd but she couldn't even have a talk w/o reventing in to her" deep, dark, and tortured past".
[/quote]if any thign their should of been more confrontatiosn

Jacob & Thane

Grunt & mordin

any way jack wanting the files was perfectly resonable,

and she dosent complain about her **** any mroe then any one else dose

[/quote]

That's a joke? You can't ask her a questions without being attacked.

[77boy84]

DeathCultArm wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...
One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

Considering that her childhood was institutionalized torture, and her teenage years consisted partly of running for her life, and occasionally being violently gang-raped, I have trouble believing you have friends like that.

Though I suppose if you are saying the character is too over the top in every way, I suppose I can't argue against that. But her scarring is consistent with her background, if you hear all of it.

Not to that extent...Not I don't know peoplw who were consistently gang-raped. Still if someone is that tortured for so much of their life, why are they so brash, and in your face? She should've been more subdued and laid back or something. It's hard to sympathize for someone when you're on a suicide  mission

Because she didn't want you to want to talk to her at all.
If she's loud and angry she pushes everything away.

[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...
One of the reasons i'm so mad as Jack's charater is b/c have a lot of friends, and just know people in general who hvae had really rocky upbringings, and Jack's was exectuted improperly. Everything was just TOO over the top. She never felt real. No one is that person all the time..

Considering that her childhood was institutionalized torture, and her teenage years consisted partly of running for her life, and occasionally being violently gang-raped, I have trouble believing you have friends like that.

Though I suppose if you are saying the character is too over the top in every way, I suppose I can't argue against that. But her scarring is consistent with her background, if you hear all of it.

Not to that extent...Not I don't know peoplw who were consistently gang-raped. Still if someone is that tortured for so much of their life, why are they so brash, and in your face? She should've been more subdued and laid back or something. It's hard to sympathize for someone when you're on a suicide  mission

No liek i said  peopel are difrnet, they cope in  difrent ways

Jacks way, because she is so god damn powerfull, is  to pretend shes the the biggest baddeds **** their is,

some people wallow in their feeling of  powerlessness others make them selves out to be all powerfull

it happens all the time in real life

[izmirtheastarach]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Not to that extent...No, I don't know people who were consistently gang-raped. Still if someone is that tortured for so much of their life, why are they so brash, and in your face? She should've been more subdued and laid back or something. It's hard to sympathize for someone when you're on a suicide  mission

She is putting up a front. If anything, the complain is that you cannot bring her our of her shell without romancing her. Which I will admit is a problem.

I kind of like having character who don't respond well to the Paragon options. Had a lot of fun on Tuchanka with that. She just doesn't respect you if you are nice to her, because she assumes you want something from her.

[DeathCultArm]

Well maybe it does happen IRL, but that persoanlity it's just to unrewarding to be in a game. If she doesn't want to talk why even add the option?

[izmirtheastarach]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Well maybe it does happen IRL, but that persoanlity it's just to unrewarding to be in a game. If she doesn't want to talk why even add the option?

It's a fun puzzle. I like puzzles.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 06 février 2010 - 10:31 .

[Gerudan]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Well maybe it does happen IRL, but that persoanlity it's just to unrewarding to be in a game. If she doesn't want to talk why even add the option?

Because it is very rewarding in the end. 

[MerchantGOL]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Well maybe it does happen IRL, but that persoanlity it's just to unrewarding to be in a game. If she doesn't want to talk why even add the option?

cause shepard is forcefull whether Renagade or Paragon,

[izmirtheastarach]

Gerudan wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Well maybe it does happen IRL, but that persoanlity it's just to unrewarding to be in a game. If she doesn't want to talk why even add the option?

Because it is very rewarding in the end. 

But only if you want to romance her.

[GenericPlayer2]

She is not 'god damned powerful'. That is an illusion in her mind. The only reason she is alive is because both the Cerberus facility and the prison ship had orders not to kill her. Her awesomeness exists only in her head.

[DeathCultArm]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Not to that extent...No, I don't know people who were consistently gang-raped. Still if someone is that tortured for so much of their life, why are they so brash, and in your face? She should've been more subdued and laid back or something. It's hard to sympathize for someone when you're on a suicide  mission

She is putting up a front. If anything, the complain is that you cannot bring her our of her shell without romancing her. Which I will admit is a problem.

I kind of like having character who don't respond well to the Paragon options. Had a lot of fun on Tuchanka with that. She just doesn't respect you if you are nice to her, because she assumes you want something from her.

That's what I'm getting at. Maybe I should've been more clear. I had no problem with her ebeing more rengegade, I was infact, but I found it hypocritical that you had to romance her to break down her "wall"

[MerchantGOL]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

She is not 'god damned powerful'. That is an illusion in her mind. The only reason she is alive is because both the Cerberus facility and the prison ship had orders not to kill her. Her awesomeness exists only in her head.

You may of missed the part were she ripped  3 Yimirs apart with her bare hands

Or attacked a Turian  milatary ship and lived