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[Sarevok Anchev]

2 questions:

You have normally Health + Shields.

So lets say you use Tech-Armor, Fortitude, Barrier, Get-Shield in any combination.

So do you have then:

A: Health + Shields*BonusShieldpower

B: Health + Shields + Armor/Barrier

?

Because it sounds strange tome, that Barrier adds to your normal/technical Shields and doesnt become a Barrier, like the one that Enemy-Vanguards and Collectors have.

And i havent used Sentinel(Tech-Armor) and Geth-Shield(from Legion) Fortitude(Grunt) til now, so i dunno, if they also just "boost" your socalled Shields, or if they give you Armor/another Shield.

If i wasnt clear () hear again my question: Can you have different layers of defense like your enemys or not?
Like Bosses, Harbingers etc. have Health + Armor + Shields, can you have 3 different "Health-Bars" or not?


And my 2nd question:
Do Enemys also have the problem with different weaknesses and Strength with their Weapons against different Protections (Barriers, Armor, Shield) that you and your Companions have, or not?

i.e..: A Enemy with a Shotgun is doing less damage against a Char, who uses Fortitude / Tech-Armor, but more damage against Sheld / Barrier?

[LittleDoggie]

Ive wondered about this myself.

[Arrtis]

From what i can tell.

Barrier and Tech armor stack.

[Wuxia]

None of the extra defence abilities stack (inc. Tech Armor) and since you can only have 1 bonus skill Geth Shield/Barrier/Fortification together are out of the question anyway.

I believe each class only has one defence as well, so using fortification on an adept won't give you Barriers + Armor. All of the skills instead boost the defence that's already there. Kind of weird having 3 identical skills, although one of the rank 4 Geth Shields does give a damage bonus.

Modifié par Banon Loire, 06 février 2010 - 03:09 .

[Sarevok Anchev]

That would be reaaaally lame!

Your enemys can have 3 different Energy-Bars, but you not? Duh!

[jaethos]

Barrier and the charge ability stack for a vanguard.

[rumination888]

They all do the same thing: Add X% to your "shields". Your "shields" is the blue/purple bar after your health bar.
And yes, they all stack.

[Sarevok Anchev]

Yes they stack.

But you wont get in any way a Armor-Bar.... shame...

[ric00015]

I had some questions about this, but you guys answered them. It's kind of retarded that Fortification adds to shields instead of giving an armor bar like it does for enemies.

[Sarevok Anchev]

And this doesnt even include the solution, IF enemys also do less damage against Shields and/or Barriers and/or Armors IF they would be working on Shepard and Company.

[SmilingMirror]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Yes they stack.
But you wont get in any way a Armor-Bar.... shame...

No they don't stack. I have tested this much.

and you can only combine Tech Armor with another pure defensive ability.

The only shield bonuses that stack are charge + barrier and Energy Drain + Tech Armor

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 06 février 2010 - 08:11 .

[Sarevok Anchev]

Are you sure they dont stack?

I combined seeral times Barrier followed by Charge and the enemys really had a workout on Veteran to chunk away my shields; more then when only having to bite in Charge OR Barrier alone!



... Maybe i should next time look at my stats in the Squad Menu ^^

[Akimb0]

ric00015 wrote...

 It's kind of retarded that Fortification adds to shields instead of giving an armor bar like it does for enemies.

Yeah I got it just to have a second layer of defenses. Heh. Should have guessed it wouldn't work that way.

[SmilingMirror]

Its bad idea to use them both at the same time anyways. its like a 18 second wait for good shields and one of the bonuses leaves in 60 seconds anyways.

[rumination888]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Are you sure they dont stack?
I combined seeral times Barrier followed by Charge and the enemys really had a workout on Veteran to chunk away my shields; more then when only having to bite in Charge OR Barrier alone!

... Maybe i should next time look at my stats in the Squad Menu ^^

They stack. Most people only look at the color glow around their character instead of the squad menu.

[Sarevok Anchev]

But do they stack linear, or multyplying each other?

[rumination888]

Their passive effect modifies your base shields, but their active effect recharges your total shields.
So if you have Barriers up and your shields are down, a +100% to max shields Charge will also refill the extra shields from Barriers.

[SmilingMirror]

rumination888 wrote...

Their passive effect modifies your base shields, but their active effect recharges your total shields.
So if you have Barriers up and your shields are down, a +100% to max shields Charge will also refill the extra shields from Barriers.

Edit: checked it out again and i was wrong.
The bonuses do stack.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 06 février 2010 - 10:48 .

[Orfinn]

I miss the armor bar the enemies have and barrier not stacking with tech armor?? What in the...?

[Sarevok Anchev]

ANother thing i just have noticed: The Shield bonus for Charge is only ACTIVE FOR 4 SECONDS!

WTF? How is that working??

[matt654321]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

But do they stack linear, or multyplying each other?

If it works the way that Charge+Fort/Geth SB/Barrier works, it's linear. I.E. the multipliers are added rather than multiplied.

Charge gives x2 shields and Barrier gives x2 shields, but when you use them together you get x3 shields. It's because it adds 100% of your base shields to itself rather than multiplying the whole value.

[Sarevok Anchev]

It would have been too good for some cheese Barrier ^^