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[worksa8]

Duncan as a hero, or as a Darkspawn- put him in the expansion and I will be very happy.

[NinjaKingKiller]

rogue1983 wrote...

NinjaKingKiller wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Duncan's not dead. Too big a plot hook. Go look at the Dragon Age wiki and look up The Architect.

Once you read that page you'll have a pretty good idea of what happened. They just made it look like Duncan died, but never actually showed his death. Why not, when they were completely OK with Cailan getting crushed like a beer can and tossed like a broken toy?

And where were the rest of the Grey Wardens in that battle? No one showed up to bury them, the PC is the first one to return to Ostagar after the battle. Like I said, read up on the Architect and you will understand. The Darkspawn do not prefer to kill Wardens. They prefer to KO them and drag them away. It's in the f---ing lore. To ignore it is to embrace ignorance.


So believe he's dead if you want... You will inevitable be proven wrong, however.

Well there was no one alive around him to save him before the final blow just because they dont prefer doesnt mean they wont do it. I prefer Xbox but I will play a PS3 or Wii. History contains many lies its up to you to decipher them. Maybe I need to show the cutscene  clearly he is dead or missing a head he was about to die anyway because of the wound in his torso he would have died even if the darkspawn left them. Or maybe the Architect was talking to Duncan when he said "So your the commander of the Grey Wardens, I will leave you to the children" Obvbiously a wounded man with some sort of Axe injury including one in the stoumach fighting those monsterous things would kill them

it doesn't even show if the axe hurlock was even in front of ducan it clips over to him so show that video all u want it doesn't prove anything.

Please think about things before you speak. Why would a Hurlock be swinging at some random ghost. Cleary the cutscene shows all of the soldiers around him being slain and the Camera switched to first person perspective so if the Hurlock was swinging at someone else we would have seen them. The Hurlock got larger when he approched meaning he was infront of him It does show that the Hurlock is infront of him people just like to make up things to reasure themselves in what they believe

[Hugmejohnny]

NinjaKingKiller wrote...

Please think about things before you speak. Why would a Hurlock be swinging at some random ghost. Cleary the cutscene shows all of the soldiers around him being slain and the Camera switched to first person perspective so if the Hurlock was swinging at someone else we would have seen them. The Hurlock got larger when he approched meaning he was infront of him It does show that the Hurlock is infront of him people just like to make up things to reasure themselves in what they believe

The axe swing was there to make it appear Duncan was killed, to "kill him", but leave it somewhat ambiguous, leaving it open if they want him to return.

[rogue1983]

NinjaKingKiller wrote...

rogue1983 wrote...

NinjaKingKiller wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Duncan's not dead. Too big a plot hook. Go look at the Dragon Age wiki and look up The Architect.

Once you read that page you'll have a pretty good idea of what happened. They just made it look like Duncan died, but never actually showed his death. Why not, when they were completely OK with Cailan getting crushed like a beer can and tossed like a broken toy?

And where were the rest of the Grey Wardens in that battle? No one showed up to bury them, the PC is the first one to return to Ostagar after the battle. Like I said, read up on the Architect and you will understand. The Darkspawn do not prefer to kill Wardens. They prefer to KO them and drag them away. It's in the f---ing lore. To ignore it is to embrace ignorance.


So believe he's dead if you want... You will inevitable be proven wrong, however.

Well there was no one alive around him to save him before the final blow just because they dont prefer doesnt mean they wont do it. I prefer Xbox but I will play a PS3 or Wii. History contains many lies its up to you to decipher them. Maybe I need to show the cutscene  clearly he is dead or missing a head he was about to die anyway because of the wound in his torso he would have died even if the darkspawn left them. Or maybe the Architect was talking to Duncan when he said "So your the commander of the Grey Wardens, I will leave you to the children" Obvbiously a wounded man with some sort of Axe injury including one in the stoumach fighting those monsterous things would kill them

it doesn't even show if the axe hurlock was even in front of ducan it clips over to him so show that video all u want it doesn't prove anything.

Please think about things before you speak. Why would a Hurlock be swinging at some random ghost. Cleary the cutscene shows all of the soldiers around him being slain and the Camera switched to first person perspective so if the Hurlock was swinging at someone else we would have seen them. The Hurlock got larger when he approched meaning he was infront of him It does show that the Hurlock is infront of him people just like to make up things to reasure themselves in what they believe

apparently you really don't want ducan back at all but most people believe otherwise and in that lil scene I didn't see him standing in front of duncan but whatever.

Modifié par rogue1983, 10 février 2010 - 04:41 .

[Vicious]

Some fail going around these forums. The guy in the trailer who says, "So you are the commander of the grey wardens" is NOT the f--ing Architect, He is clearly shown speaking in the trailer and you can easily tell his voice apart from every other speaker in the damn trailer. So it's someone else, sounds like some haggard old man to me.

[ejikvkaske]

1. You don't specifically see Duncan die.

2. You don't find his body, his armor, or any further evidence of his death.

I'd say that in RPG world that's a rather obvious indication that Duncan is not dead.

Modifié par ejikvkaske, 10 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[J-all]

Look Duncan is dead as in the complete opposite of alive don't post here anymore don't change your id‘s and open this up somewhere else. He...is...Dead. Thats why in the game there is no mention of looking for him when you wake up after Ostagar wynne survived and she didn't say any thing about Duncan surviving Riordan returns to Ostagar to find out about the archdemon twice did he see Duncan no I beat the archdemon still no Duncan hell on pc and xbox you can return to Ostagar still no Duncan so by looking at all evidence expect the fact that bioware spared you the last second of him begin torn to shareds and seeing the dogs and wolves fight over who gets whats left I would kill if he popped up after we stop the blight without him.

[J-all]

Look Duncan is dead as in the complete opposite of alive don't post here anymore don't change your id‘s and open this up somewhere else. He...is...Dead. Thats why in the game there is no mention of looking for him when you wake up after Ostagar wynne survived and she didn't say any thing about Duncan surviving Riordan returns to Ostagar to find out about the archdemon twice did he see Duncan no I beat the archdemon still no Duncan hell on pc and xbox you can return to Ostagar still no Duncan so by looking at all evidence expect the fact that bioware spared you the last second of him begin torn to shareds and seeing the dogs and wolves fight over who gets whats left I would kill if he popped up after we stop the blight without him.

[J-all]

Look Duncan is dead as in the complete opposite of alive don't post here anymore don't change your id‘s and open this up somewhere else. He...is...Dead. Thats why in the game there is no mention of looking for him when you wake up after Ostagar wynne survived and she didn't say any thing about Duncan surviving Riordan returns to Ostagar to find out about the archdemon twice did he see Duncan no I beat the archdemon still no Duncan hell on pc and xbox you can return to Ostagar still no Duncan so by looking at all evidence expect the fact that bioware spared you the last second of him begin torn to shareds and seeing the dogs and wolves fight over who gets whats left I would kill if he popped up after we stop the blight without him.

[Kastagir]

Once is enough, yes?



I'd say the most dramatic impact of discovering Duncan's fate would be if it turned out that the talking darkspawn leader in the expansion trailers was in fact Duncan, transformed/corrupted by the darkspawn - nothing would strike deeper than to corrupt the leader of the Grey Wardens (in fact I believe something similar happened in the DA lore). If the degree of ambiguity surrounding Duncan's fate was as intentional as many of you seem to believe, then this seems to be the most likely (and least anti-climactic) outcome.

[J-all]

Sorry but some olny speak threnglish so you have to tell them three times!

[Melca36]

Kastagir wrote...

Once is enough, yes?

I'd say the most dramatic impact of discovering Duncan's fate would be if it turned out that the talking darkspawn leader in the expansion trailers was in fact Duncan, transformed/corrupted by the darkspawn - nothing would strike deeper than to corrupt the leader of the Grey Wardens (in fact I believe something similar happened in the DA lore). If the degree of ambiguity surrounding Duncan's fate was as intentional as many of you seem to believe, then this seems to be the most likely (and least anti-climactic) outcome.

I agree.

The emotional impact of discovering Duncan like that would make for a powerful moment.

I can see a great cutscene with the corrupted Duncan and Alistair. It would be very raw and gut wrenching.

[luckyredina11]

hes alive we never see him die . no body. "spoiler' also when u return to ostagar they keep a nightly watch on his fire saying they still feel his great power they guard it also when they found the most revered people 'like cailian' they leave them to rot on that post thing

[worksa8]

Now one was around Duncan- he was unarmed, and the axe was like inches from his face when it cut out- I have a strong belief he is dead. Everyone says he is dead, Codex's and such say he is dead, and the Gaurdian of Andraste's ashes says (This one is questionable because he is asking Alistair more so just question about himself), that he is dead.

[Reverie]

Like others have already said. No body = Can't prove their actually dead.

[Count Viceroy]

Might as well be alive for all we know. It'd make for a plausible plot tbh.If he's in this expansion my bet is he's the leader of the diciples.

[Khayness]

White flash = time travel

But please, don't bring him back.

The dead should be buried. Not too deep of course, you could need them anytime. (Necromancer proverb)

[_000Darkstar]

You never actually saw the Couslands die on screen either. Does that mean they are still alive? Captured and put in one of Howe's super secret Amaranthine dungeons, only for you to find and rescue them in Awakening? No. They're dead, just like Duncan. To find out he's alive would cheapen his death, and the dramatic impact it had on you AND your PC.



I know everybody idolizes the guy and wants to have his little demon abomination babies, but it just doesn't make sense for him to just show up and be like, "Oh hey. Remember when everyone died at Ostagar? Not me, for I am IMMORTAL! There can be only ONE let us battle. Oh crap you have my weapons... Can I have those back?"

[rak72]

If he is alive, I hope I can convince him to come up to my room to discuss the Gray Wardens this time. But Alistair might not like that.

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

Never, Duncan is dead let us accept the part and move on. Duncan's main role is narrator so if you want him back you have to find a portal as he could only be seen from the forth wall

[Count Viceroy]

There's no hard evidence for either theory, people are just guessing. Some people in the the denying crowd should stop acting like you have actual proof to back up your statements.

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

Let us all assume that Duncan died a noble death and leave him be. I think that if he returns would ruin the whole story, don't you think?

[worksa8]

No one has proof of either, but there was the whole scene that really REALLY looked like he got beheaded (They avoided showing beheadings because the heads disappear in the game, you see that during a killing blow. And they avoid it when killing off -you know who- as well.)

He MIGHT not be dead, but more evidence does say he is dead. They avoid showing a lot of death scenes because the possibility of bringing them back is always there (The devs/writers might not even know yet, right?)