True, but it IS more likely he is dead. I think the devs just did that because they both didn't want to show him lose his head, and because it leaves a mystery as well as the chance for them to decide later on in the scripting/future content if they wanted to bring him back for whatever reason.
I mean aside from that scene, everyone says he is dead, the gaurdian says he is dead, the plot in general says/asusmes he is dead- it would be a spectacular come back though- and they would need a damn good reason considering your character saw him die. (The scene cut out, but Alistair and others say "You were there, you saw what happened"
You see that from the top of the tower- it flips over to you because your getting mauled be dark spawn.
Speculation: Could Duncan be alive?
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#152
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Posté 14 mars 2010 - 03:41
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I'm gonna say it: Duncan has likely become the booty-call of some greasy Broodmother.
#153
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 11:10
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Jack Anvil wrote...
I'm gonna say it: Duncan has likely become the booty-call of some greasy Broodmother.
An army of bearded hurlocks, Maker preserve us!
#154
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:33
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Considering the darkspawn drag bodies underground or snack on it topside, either way it'd be eaten, the whole "no body not dead" justification doesn't really work in this case lol
#155
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:36
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Sorry but some olny speak threnglish so you have to tell them three times!
Thats called spam
Not enlightenment.
#156
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:38
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Kail Ashton wrote...
Considering the darkspawn drag bodies underground or snack on it topside, either way it'd be eaten, the whole "no body not dead" justification doesn't really work in this case lol
Then it shall be duncans headless ghost we shall be fighting. Hooray!
#157
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:38
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I'm going to pull a Flemeth here...
I believe..do I? Why yes I do.....
I think that there are future plans for Duncan. I think he will be our enemy that time around and not our friend. I think he will be "alive" but not as we know alive.
I believe..do I? Why yes I do.....
I think that there are future plans for Duncan. I think he will be our enemy that time around and not our friend. I think he will be "alive" but not as we know alive.
#158
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:40
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Indeed, I reckon we'll see him again in one form or another. *imagines duncan in starwars ep.6 form*
Yes..blue suits him...
Yes..blue suits him...
#159
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 12:51
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Notice that you never actually saw him die. Also there was no body ever found even in Return to Ostagar and it mentions that the Dark Spawn had put effort into destroying his Duncan's campsite as if they could sense his power. This gives me the opinion that either he survived or Bioware doesn't want us to know whether he survived or not. At least not yet.
#160
Posté 14 mars 2010 - 01:11
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ZaroktheImmortal wrote...
Notice that you never actually saw him die. Also there was no body ever found even in Return to Ostagar and it mentions that the Dark Spawn had put effort into destroying his Duncan's campsite as if they could sense his power. This gives me the opinion that either he survived or Bioware doesn't want us to know whether he survived or not. At least not yet.
Well...**spoiler**
Look what they did with Tamlen..in the Dalish elf story, Tamlen shows up at the party's camp, as a shriek. But you also see him in ghoul form.
So it's possible for Duncan to do the same thing...only as in Tamlen's case, we'll have to kill him.
#161
Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:38
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DUNCAN IS AT THE FADE ("a metaphysical realm that is part of Thedas yet separated by the Veil"), SO HE IS STILL ALIVE... LIKE RIORDAN AND ALL THE GREY WARDENS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD. THAT'S THE TRUTH. (WE DON'T SEE ANY DEAD BODY OF A GREY WARDEN IN DA:O, DO WE?? NO!)
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FALSE DEMON, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REAL DUNCAN. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE GREY WARDENS DIE, DO WE?? YES, KILLING THE ARCHDEMON.
BUT IF THEY DON'T KILL IT, THEY WILL SUVIVE TO FIGHT THE NEXT HORDE OF DARKSPAWN, THAT'S A REAL FACT, THE LIFE OF A TRUE GREY WARDEN. SO DUNCAN IS ALIVE, ACCEPT IT.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FALSE DEMON, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REAL DUNCAN. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE GREY WARDENS DIE, DO WE?? YES, KILLING THE ARCHDEMON.
BUT IF THEY DON'T KILL IT, THEY WILL SUVIVE TO FIGHT THE NEXT HORDE OF DARKSPAWN, THAT'S A REAL FACT, THE LIFE OF A TRUE GREY WARDEN. SO DUNCAN IS ALIVE, ACCEPT IT.
#162
Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:41
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David Gaider said he's dead...End of story.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 02:45
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Forum necromancers are cool.Jormundgander wrote...
DUNCAN IS AT THE FADE ("a metaphysical realm that is part of Thedas yet separated by the Veil"), SO HE IS STILL ALIVE... LIKE RIORDAN AND ALL THE GREY WARDENS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD. THAT'S THE TRUTH. (WE DON'T SEE ANY DEAD BODY OF A GREY WARDEN IN DA:O, DO WE?? NO!)
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FALSE DEMON, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REAL DUNCAN. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE GREY WARDENS DIE, DO WE?? YES, KILLING THE ARCHDEMON.
BUT IF THEY DON'T KILL IT, THEY WILL SUVIVE TO FIGHT THE NEXT HORDE OF DARKSPAWN, THAT'S A REAL FACT, THE LIFE OF A TRUE GREY WARDEN. SO DUNCAN IS ALIVE, ACCEPT IT.
AND DOING IT IN ALL CAPS MAKES YOU EVEN COOLER.
#164
Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 05:02
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I suppose that he could possibly be written back into the story, but it might not fit very well. When you were in the fade, the sloth demon tried to trick you into thinking that Duncan was still alive, but it became obvious that he was in fact dead. They even showed the darkspawn charging at him, and then the entire screen went white, implying that he was killed. The guardian of Andraste's ashes also asks Alistair if he regretted being up in the tower instead of shielding Duncan from the killing blow, and this guardian seemed to know everything about everyone.
Duncan is with the Maker (or the Prime Thinker, IMO). A good ending would have been for Duncan's spirit to congratulate you at the end of the game, but all we got were those text boxes.
Duncan is with the Maker (or the Prime Thinker, IMO). A good ending would have been for Duncan's spirit to congratulate you at the end of the game, but all we got were those text boxes.
#165
Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 06:11
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Okay.... craaazzy question, but I gotta put it out there.
What's the love affair for Duncan about anyway? He's a JERK!
Oh no? Then, think about all the 'wonderful' things he does...
1) He intentionally runs around Ferelden, recruiting people for the Wardens (such as Ser Jory). It's always presented as 'a great honor'. Oh yea, he 'forgot' to mention: it's a death sentence, either sooner or later.
2) If you understandably balk at drinking a cup of poisonous blood, well, too bad... you get a blade in the guts (just ask Ser Jory). But, it's cool, because the 'Great Duncan' apologized.
3) Even if you buy the notion that he's doing it for the good of Ferelden (and that therefore, all things are justified, etc) he's really not a very good recruiter. After all, HE picks up loners and loose ends (such as your character). You and Alistair, by contrast, recruit armies.
So... here's a guy who intentionally lies and misleads people... forces you to choose between a likely death by poison or a certain death by blade... and never really gets around to telling you all the things you need to know (he'd much rather hang around his bonfire, and look cool afterall!).
He just strikes me as an amateur.... and your character is left to pick up the pieces of his failure.
What's the love affair for Duncan about anyway? He's a JERK!
Oh no? Then, think about all the 'wonderful' things he does...
1) He intentionally runs around Ferelden, recruiting people for the Wardens (such as Ser Jory). It's always presented as 'a great honor'. Oh yea, he 'forgot' to mention: it's a death sentence, either sooner or later.
2) If you understandably balk at drinking a cup of poisonous blood, well, too bad... you get a blade in the guts (just ask Ser Jory). But, it's cool, because the 'Great Duncan' apologized.
3) Even if you buy the notion that he's doing it for the good of Ferelden (and that therefore, all things are justified, etc) he's really not a very good recruiter. After all, HE picks up loners and loose ends (such as your character). You and Alistair, by contrast, recruit armies.
So... here's a guy who intentionally lies and misleads people... forces you to choose between a likely death by poison or a certain death by blade... and never really gets around to telling you all the things you need to know (he'd much rather hang around his bonfire, and look cool afterall!).
He just strikes me as an amateur.... and your character is left to pick up the pieces of his failure.
