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[Coldcall01]

The fact that no-one has gotten rid of the Keepers after ME1 is rather ridiculous. They are the agents of the Reapers as discovered by Shepard in ME1 on Illos just before launching the Mako through the relay.

[Dethateer]

They are harmless, thanks to the Protheans, and besides, no one has even figured out where they show up from, let alone how to exterminate them all.

[Melra]

And they have made it possible to repair Citadel as fast as they have. As long as pros weight the cons they'll stay, since council doesn't want to believe in reapers, why would they think that Keepers would be any danger towards them?

[ilikeicehockey]

yeah, keepers were deactivated by protheans last time around so they don't do anything other than repair/upkeep.

[Gill Kaiser]

You obviously weren't paying attention to Vigil.

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

I thought the council was still trying to deny the existence of reapers. Getting rid of the keepers would just cause a panic and/or raise too many questions.

[Kelmen Wong]

Becos majority of the other ppl don't buy the reaper story, and treating it as bull****.

[Melra]

Yeah. *waits for ME3 to end with discovery that Shepard has been a drugged volus for all this time and all has been just hallucinations*

[Coldcall01]

No i dont buy the "they are harmelss now" excuse. Still no-one knows what they do, how they do it etc...How can anyone know for sure they have been thoroughly disconnected of influence from the Reapers?



I wish they had added another Keepers quest in ME2 where you shut them off and the Council replaces them. In reality there is no reason to just take on trust that they are now dormant.

[Tleining]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You obviously weren't paying attention to Vigil.

meaning? The Protheans made changes to the keepers, so when the reapers sent the signal to activate the relay to dark space, the keepers ignored it. So right now they just do repairs on the citadel instead of being servants to the reapers. Did i miss something?

[john william]

Coldcall01 wrote...

No i dont buy the "they are harmelss now" excuse. Still no-one knows what they do, how they do it etc...How can anyone know for sure they have been thoroughly disconnected of influence from the Reapers?

It stands to reason if the Reapers could still remotely influence them, Soverign would have tried to do so in the couple of centuries he spent trying to reactivate the citadel.

[ilikeicehockey]

john william wrote...

Coldcall01 wrote...

No i dont buy the "they are harmelss now" excuse. Still no-one knows what they do, how they do it etc...How can anyone know for sure they have been thoroughly disconnected of influence from the Reapers?

It stands to reason if the Reapers could still remotely influence them, Soverign would have tried to do so in the couple of centuries he spent trying to reactivate the citadel.

yup, cause that's how the reapers screwed the protheans. They used the keepers to open the mass relay. But since the protheans deactivated them, they needed to use saren. Otherwise,  sovereign would've just used the keepers instead of saren. Learn to pay attention during the game and don't just skip all the convos

[Naltair]

The keepers are harmless caretakers now and without them the Citadel would be useless.

[LoganMalone]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

I thought the council was still trying to deny the existence of reapers. Getting rid of the keepers would just cause a panic and/or raise too many questions.

That's what I found strange....in my playthrough, the entire counsel was hiding in the Ascension as it was running off in fear...didn't even fire a shot at Sovereign. I'm wondering what caused the cover up of not even recognizing Sovereign existed.  Hell, he was the center of focus in the battle and his size could be plainly seen by any naked eye on the Citadel. 

Modifié par LoganMalone, 06 février 2010 - 04:40 .

[Shadow015]

LoganMalone wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

I thought the council was still trying to deny the existence of reapers. Getting rid of the keepers would just cause a panic and/or raise too many questions.

That's what I found strange....in my playthrough, the entire counsel was hiding in the Ascension as it was running off in fear...didn't even fire a shot at Sovereign. I'm wondering what caused the cover up of not even recognizing Sovereign existed.  Hell, he was the center of focus in the battle and his size could be plainly seen by any naked eye on the Citadel. 

The coverup isn't that Sovereign didn't exist.  The Council just refuses to believe that it was anything more than a bigger Geth ship - as far as they're concerned, Saren was the true mastermind, and he made up the story about the Reapers to throw everyone off his trail.

[Doomhams]

Plus, when you kill one another one comes along to take its place. The core has some sort of keeper factory in it.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Because, quite simply, it's their job?

[LoganMalone]

Coldcall01 wrote...

No i dont buy the "they are harmelss now" excuse. Still no-one knows what they do, how they do it etc...How can anyone know for sure they have been thoroughly disconnected of influence from the Reapers?

I wish they had added another Keepers quest in ME2 where you shut them off and the Council replaces them. In reality there is no reason to just take on trust that they are now dormant.

The 'Scan the Keepers' quest in ME1 provides a ME2 consequence below:

Scan all the keepers and Chorban will e-mail a brief summary of his findings: the Keepers
are programmed to 'wait for a signal', at which point they'll take some sort of actions, and that it is about time for that signal to arrive. Chorban states that this has happened repeatedly in the past, and analogizes it to looking at
the rings on a tree. Unforunately, he has been unable find anyone willing to take those findings seriously. The e-mail will be received about halfway through Mass Effect 2.   
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel:_Scan_the_Keepers

Modifié par LoganMalone, 06 février 2010 - 05:07 .

[jpetrey123]

the council doesnt want to believe the reapers exist /thread

[Homey C-Dawg]

1. Citadel repairmen, it's what they do.



2. Counsel rejects Reaper existence, therefore rejecting Keeper/Reaper association.



3. No one knows how to eliminate the Keepers even if they wanted to.

[Turkeysock]

LoganMalone wrote...

Coldcall01 wrote...

No i dont buy the "they are harmelss now" excuse. Still no-one knows what they do, how they do it etc...How can anyone know for sure they have been thoroughly disconnected of influence from the Reapers?

I wish they had added another Keepers quest in ME2 where you shut them off and the Council replaces them. In reality there is no reason to just take on trust that they are now dormant.

The 'Scan the Keepers' quest in ME1 provides a ME2 consequence below:

Scan all the keepers and Chorban will e-mail a brief summary of his findings: the Keepers
are programmed to 'wait for a signal', at which point they'll take some sort of actions, and that it is about time for that signal to arrive. Chorban states that this has happened repeatedly in the past, and analogizes it to looking at
the rings on a tree. Unforunately, he has been unable find anyone willing to take those findings seriously. The e-mail will be received about halfway through Mass Effect 2.   
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel:_Scan_the_Keepers

Also, don't forget that he said the Keepers are millions of years old, and that by calculating this, there is no way the Protheons had created the Citadel and by relations, the Mass Relays.

The Keepers are basically useless to the Reapers until they invade again. In which case, they would most likely just destroy them and replace them with a synthetic life form rather than reprogram or engineer another species to take over for them.

[dragonic9100]

reapers aren't real. sovereign was a geth flagship. the all knowing council told me so

[megmca]

Keepers are harmless except for occasionally finding bodies in the wards and dumping them in the recyclers before CSEC has a chance to identify them.

[Zan51]

I am wondering if they are the original civilization that built the Citadel and mass relays. If they are, then perhaps the Rachni, who have racial memories and can speak mind to mind, can communicate with them.. Maybe now they are free from the Reapers, they can be reached. Maybe they will emerge as a force for Good against the reapers. or maybe even just have some more insight into how the Reapers came about.



The Von Neumann self replicating machine concept is old now, but someone originally made the Reapers. Maybe the Keepers did, like the Geth were made by the quarians. OOh so much to speculate about and I am betting that the Keepers could well hold a big clue.

[Chuvvy]

Coldcall01 wrote...


The fact that no-one has gotten rid of the Keepers after ME1 is rather ridiculous. They are the agents of the Reapers as discovered by Shepard in ME1 on Illos just before launching the Mako through the relay.

AH yes,"Reapers".