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[Massadonious1]

Let Heavy Rain be Heavy Rain and let ME2 be ME2.

[Kalfear]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Let Heavy Rain be Heavy Rain and let ME2 be ME2.

Or better yet, let Bioware learn from Heavy Rain so its future products even better and more appealing to everyone involved!

Damn it, there I go again making sence!

[Massadonious1]

Yep, you're just too smart for me. Maybe you should petition Quantic Dream to impliment a cover system, BioWare's diaologue tree and Paragon/Renegade morality system since the games are so easily comparable.

[FiOth]

One of the best topics I've ever read. I totally agree with the OP. From what I can remember since time immemorial, BioWare''s rules included being honest with it's fans. After selling as DLC like Pinnacle Station and following tactics the likes of which try to prove us stupid and naive does not give them credit.



Imho these people created the best western RPG of all time. Their behavior is thus inappropriate.

[Massadonious1]

While you're at it, you should petition every movie studio to use nudity in their R rated movies, regardless of it's intended content. People who simply use the rating to amplify the violence and/or language in their movies are obviously doing it wrong if they don't use boobies!

[greywarden1212]

Schneidend wrote...

The Talimance had an amazingly satisfying conlusion that did not involve quarians gone wild. Would I be perfectly fine with seeing some Miranda or Tali side-boob, bare ass shots, or even full on nudity? Hell yes I would. Does the game even remotely need it? Not at all.

I agree totally, I mean it would be nice to see some of tali's body (or at least her face) but it doesn't need to get to the extent of bare-boobage. Although it'd be nice, but not needed, the games fine without. although i would be very sad if they took the romance "plot" out in general, which most-likely wont happen though, considering it gives a part of the "soul" to mass effect besides for action and talks your able to have.

Modifié par greywarden1212, 15 février 2010 - 07:31 .

[Kwonnern]

No matter what the argument, Stanley could have handled it a tad bit better instead of calling such a big part of the customerbase "immature" with condescending tone.

That was what made most of the people upset and irritated, i assume.
Much more than with the topic/subject itself.

Modifié par Kwonnern, 15 février 2010 - 07:32 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

A cover system for Heavy Rain w occasional shoot outs that's similar to ME2 doesn't sound bad.You'd have something like 25% shooting/cover system + 75% interactive movie.

Oh almost forgot depending on if your characters survived in HR1 , you can recruit them for help in HR2.As it turns out the origami killer had followers and their going after the original characters plus the new ones.

Ok , I'm done now

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 15 février 2010 - 08:42 .

[FuManchu12]

Bioware are past masters at representing in-game romance without nudity - I mean, in Baldur's Gate 2 they managed to fixate a legion of fans on characters whose only serious representation was a tiny picture of their face that popped up when they spoke to you. They don't need nudity or even partial nudity to pull off a good game with good romantic character interaction.



The only issue is one of immersion - seeing characters apparently having sex while clearly remaining fully clothed is as distracting as those silly 'fantasy bras' they issued as standard to female characters in Dragon Age. It just seems a bit pointless; either they should cut out sex scenes altogether or they should make the glimpses - and glimpses are all that are necessary because computer RPGs, more than almost any other medium, rely on imagination - more appropriate to the context.



Which was, of course, precisely what they did in ME1 - a glimpse, but a genuine glimpse. That's all that was necessary.

[Torhagen]

Sgt.Budsky wrote...


Intimacy Scenes: Obviously no one should expect to take what
they see in videogames and use them in the real world and expect
postive results, especially with intimate things. BUT that's
the wonderful thing about videogames right? We don't have to irk at the
thought of approaching whoever and being shot down, though a lot of
people I know would probably immediately and literally gun down the person that rejected them... in game that is. It's a novelty people (us gamers)
enjoy, turning Shepard into a real gentleman or a sleazy lounge lizard.
As far as the real intimate scenes go, I'm not expecting nor overly
desiring something of the likes seen in Farenheight (push up on thumbstick to... you know... go in and down to..../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png)
but perhaps a more emotional experience after the deed to allow players
to metaphorically see into the souls of the characters you 'BioWare'
have developed. Pillow talk and such, really hear what the character
has on their minds, if Shepard "performed" well, (based on paragon 'sensual' or renegade 'rough' ),
what might be troubling them or have players brace for some teary
ephiny that'll spawn half a dozen internet comics that have people
laughing out of their seats. Also, it'd be nice if Shepard can let
his/her guard down and be the one that gets support rather then being
the pillar of strength for everyone else. Saving the world "twice"
would take a lot out of someone, maybe some cutesy shenanigans like
throwing a grape at your LI so they can try and catch it or vice versa.
Maybe I'm looking too far into this now?

[Kalfear]

Massadonious1 wrote...

While you're at it, you should petition every movie studio to use nudity in their R rated movies, regardless of it's intended content. People who simply use the rating to amplify the violence and/or language in their movies are obviously doing it wrong if they don't use boobies!

Me thinks Mass is just upset hes to young to get into the normal R rated movies with nude breasts (11-13 year olds say boobies).

Dont worry Mass, only just under a decade to go for you!

Till then, tell your parents to do their jobs already and stop buying M rated games your to young for.

[LZIM]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Yep, you're just too smart for me. Maybe you should petition Quantic Dream to impliment a cover system, BioWare's diaologue tree and Paragon/Renegade morality system since the games are so easily comparable.

Given what they accomplished with Heavy Rain, and that they've expressed an interest in other platforms.. that's not that unlikely a thing to happen. Don't all developers return to FPS after trying to make art?

I'd actually love to see Heavy Rain turned into an FPS, losing the idiotic control system in HR to grant the player more traditional controls.

The only bad thing would be dumping their attention to detail in order to churn out crappy, low walled environments. I'd rather they not stoop that low if they did want to make any kind of FPS.

I'd also love to see them tackle vehicles.

[Jewsapalewsa]

jpetrey123 wrote...

i dont think you realize just how many of those threads there has been. if you people want nudity look at porn or watch HBO. i mean seriously they are pixels!!!

Technically, any digital image you view are pixels.  So even real life porn videotaped or photgraphed and viewed on a computer or TV are just pixels, so in response to your comment.

How can you look at porn or watch HBO?  I mean seriously, they are pixels!?!?

[HeavyTankZA]

if you want nudity that bad, strip down and go stare at yourself in a mirror. problem solved...

[Jewsapalewsa]

Kalfear wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

While you're at it, you should petition every movie studio to use nudity in their R rated movies, regardless of it's intended content. People who simply use the rating to amplify the violence and/or language in their movies are obviously doing it wrong if they don't use boobies!

Me thinks Mass is just upset hes to young to get into the normal R rated movies with nude breasts (11-13 year olds say boobies).

Dont worry Mass, only just under a decade to go for you!

Till then, tell your parents to do their jobs already and stop buying M rated games your to young for.

Really, you want to accuse the other guy of being young and immature, but you will be the first one to let the exchange break down into pointless jibes and mocking? 

[Jewsapalewsa]

Vlainstrike wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

People... go have sex if you want nudity that badly. Watch porn, whatever. Leave the games for people with imagination.

People... go join the marines if you want to kill people that badly. Join a gang, whatever. Leave the games for people with imagination.

People... go book a tour if you want to explore exciting places that badly.  Jump in your car & drive, whatever.  Leave the games for people with imagination.

People... get a computer science degree if you want to hack stuff that badly.  Hack a government agency, whatever.  Leave the games for people with imagination.

People... read a book if you want a deep story with complex character development.  Watch a movie, whatever.  Leave the games for people with imagination.

Stupid argument is stupid.

You sir, Have perfectly put my thoughts into words.  Thank you.

[Jewsapalewsa]

Hammer6767 wrote...

The absurdity of this whole "issue" is laughable. Who the f**k cares? It's artistic license. Don't play it if all you wanted was a pixelated side boob.

NERDS!

Yes we, who play Fantasy and Science fiction RPG's are lowly nerds below you, who are almighty in that you ..... play fantasy and science fiction rpgs.  Oh wait,  you're just as nerdy as all of the rest of us. 

[RobbertDewulf]

Seriously, I didn't mind about that. The game is good as it is now, who cares about the rest?

[HK47DL]

It's quite pathetic to fight over lack of pixelated boobs.



And i don't see a reason to respond to it, especially not with all the effort you did with personal answers to all sorts of dudes but hell, they better appreciate your efforts.



You atleast seem to care about your image, and the image of BW.





Creds to you.

[Destructo-Bot]

I wouldn't mind a tasteful scene per ME1. That was well done. Kelly going stripperific on you I find more jarring.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 23 février 2010 - 04:07 .

[TornadoADV]

Besides Tali and Thane, the other conclusions to LI plots was just very poorly done. There was no emotional attachment to go with the scene that was happening and the incredible lack of visible skin between people who are (in story) close enough to each other to engage in coitus results in 15 year old dry humping and a cut away to black.

Either do the scenes right or don't do them at all, it isn't a question of skin or no skin.

Modifié par TornadoADV, 23 février 2010 - 05:17 .

[RJB1978]

Really? 31 pages of arguing over a simulated sex scene in a video game? You're on the internets, people. If you really want to see Miranda or Jack naked, I'm sure some fanfic exists out there that will cater to your demands. Bioware is just making a game...there's no underlying story or reason for adding a bra or showing side boob other than that's what they wanted to do. Random people posting "WHARS MAH SIDE BOOB!!!!121!" online isn't going to force them to patch the game, or make sure it's added in the next installment. Well, it might if the game only shipped 23 copies, but I'm pretty sure Mass Effect 2 shipped 83 bazillion units, based on calculations I made up.



Bioware doesn't OWE us any explanation. They certainly don't owe us a steamy softcore pr0n love scene. If the game is a hopeless, unplayable failure for you, based on 17 seconds of cutscene, then YOU are the problem, not Bioware.

[Destructo-Bot]

Bioware stepped up to the plate in ME1 and delivered something rare in games, a quality and tasteful love scene fleshed out by a romance plot... a mature take on sex and love in video games instead of just T&A and guns and explosions with the women throwing themselves blindly at your character.

Many people looked forward to seeing this trend continue into the sequel, but it seems to have taken a step back into titillation territory a bit (Kelly's "stripper dance" among others). They got some of the romances right but seemed to miss what made the original stand out.

But don't let that stop some of you ranting about "kids wanting ****** in their game".

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 23 février 2010 - 08:32 .

[StreetlightEagle]

I don't think its a point of having full nudity or not, its the point of being genuine and true to the characters that are involved. For example, I don't think the Tali scene should have had nudity, however the Jack one certainly should have. The fact that there is always partial nudity in ME1 and no nudity in ME2 does tell me something, it wasn't a design choice for maturity but rather to attract a wider audience.