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Nudity Criticisms--BioWare Condescends. This Means You, Mr. Woo


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i agree with everything aquilas said they are aloud to make us feel like children and not adults stop with the **** i mean were not 6 i am 20 years old and i dont like being treated like a child

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

The absurdity of this whole "issue" is laughable. Who the f**k cares? It's artistic license. Don't play it if all you wanted was a pixelated side boob.

NERDS!


Lots of thought and insight into the OP's argument went into this man's post.

After reading this thread, I completely agree with the OP.  

It seems that violence today is glorified, and sex is taboo.  We can see people melting alive in the collector ship, blow the limbs off of mechs, set fire to people and aliens.

But sex?  Nooooooo, that's going too far.  Kinda like the Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing.  Cmon.  

Everyone in here just saying "U GUYZ R NARDS GHO WETCH PRON" are completely missing the argument.  I feel like I've been a fan of a political activist only to find out that they cow towed to some senator for extra money.  THAT'S what this is about.  THAT'S what it feels like.


It's a game. If you feel "betrayed" in any way, you got issues man.

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Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.

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roundzero gun wrote...

i agree with everything aquilas said they are aloud to make us feel like children and not adults stop with the **** i mean were not 6 i am 20 years old and i dont like being treated like a child


You sure spell like one LOL

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Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


this

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I couldn't care less about nudity, I didn't buy the game just for the sex scenes..

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Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 

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corebit wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

The absurdity of this whole "issue" is laughable. Who the f**k cares? It's artistic license. Don't play it if all you wanted was a pixelated side boob.

NERDS!


Lots of thought and insight into the OP's argument went into this man's post.

After reading this thread, I completely agree with the OP.  

It seems that violence today is glorified, and sex is taboo.  We can see people melting alive in the collector ship, blow the limbs off of mechs, set fire to people and aliens.

But sex?  Nooooooo, that's going too far.  Kinda like the Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing.  Cmon.  

Everyone in here just saying "U GUYZ R NARDS GHO WETCH PRON" are completely missing the argument.  I feel like I've been a fan of a political activist only to find out that they cow towed to some senator for extra money.  THAT'S what this is about.  THAT'S what it feels like.


It's a game. If you feel "betrayed" in any way, you got issues man.


OK INSIGHTFUL ANONYMOUS POSTER.

#84
roundzero gun

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There were no spelling mistakes and i did not feel like capitalizing and putting in periods.I will on forms and documents but not posts on a game

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corebit wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

The absurdity of this whole "issue" is laughable. Who the f**k cares? It's artistic license. Don't play it if all you wanted was a pixelated side boob.

NERDS!


Lots of thought and insight into the OP's argument went into this man's post.

After reading this thread, I completely agree with the OP.  

It seems that violence today is glorified, and sex is taboo.  We can see people melting alive in the collector ship, blow the limbs off of mechs, set fire to people and aliens.

But sex?  Nooooooo, that's going too far.  Kinda like the Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing.  Cmon.  

Everyone in here just saying "U GUYZ R NARDS GHO WETCH PRON" are completely missing the argument.  I feel like I've been a fan of a political activist only to find out that they cow towed to some senator for extra money.  THAT'S what this is about.  THAT'S what it feels like.


It's a game. If you feel "betrayed" in any way, you got issues man.


It's a betrayal because it's a step backwards, a caving in to the morons who think sex/nudity is bad and should be covered up.

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KBlaut wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 


Then every game should have sex scenes! Because we are no children!

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Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 


Then every game should have sex scenes! Because we are no children!


This is a very cinematic game with many mature themes. I'm not talking about putting nudity in Spyro, you clearly don't understand that.

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KBlaut wrote...

corebit wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

The absurdity of this whole "issue" is laughable. Who the f**k cares? It's artistic license. Don't play it if all you wanted was a pixelated side boob.

NERDS!


Lots of thought and insight into the OP's argument went into this man's post.

After reading this thread, I completely agree with the OP.  

It seems that violence today is glorified, and sex is taboo.  We can see people melting alive in the collector ship, blow the limbs off of mechs, set fire to people and aliens.

But sex?  Nooooooo, that's going too far.  Kinda like the Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing.  Cmon.  

Everyone in here just saying "U GUYZ R NARDS GHO WETCH PRON" are completely missing the argument.  I feel like I've been a fan of a political activist only to find out that they cow towed to some senator for extra money.  THAT'S what this is about.  THAT'S what it feels like.


It's a game. If you feel "betrayed" in any way, you got issues man.


It's a betrayal because it's a step backwards, a caving in to the morons who think sex/nudity is bad and should be covered up.


Could we have some proof as to if it's really the case? We don't know their reasons, so you guys should really stop making baseless assumptions. Anyway, controvery = cash, and I really doubt if any way would procure more money, it would be the one taken.

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ugha ugha these threads just wont die already. maybe they did not want to deal with the controversy, they may have acctually had a good reason but cant come out and say it. only they know why they did what they did

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KBlaut wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 


Then every game should have sex scenes! Because we are no children!


This is a very cinematic game with many mature themes. I'm not talking about putting nudity in Spyro, you clearly don't understand that.


Yeah, and? mature themes = sex scenes too? Come on, the sex happens, we just don't see it. There's tons of games with mature themes and no sex. Anyway, in ME1, it was like 10 sec...

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I don't care about sex or porn i just want to have them be real.I mean would you have sex with your pants and underwear on no.I just feel like they try make everyone happy you cant pick one or the other if you just did it for the public view and not your fans then i feel sorry for you.

Modifié par roundzero gun, 06 février 2010 - 08:12 .


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Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...



Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 


Then every game should have sex scenes! Because we are no children!


This is a very cinematic game with many mature themes. I'm not talking about putting nudity in Spyro, you clearly don't understand that.


Yeah, and? mature themes = sex scenes too? Come on, the sex happens, we just don't see it. There's tons of games with mature themes and no sex. Anyway, in ME1, it was like 10 sec...

You don't understand it so you mock it so go ahead you just want  to be treated like a child.

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Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Evil Johnny 666 wrote...

KBlaut wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

Anyone who complains about the lack of nudity/sex in a game needs to be treated as a child. Cause complaining about that stuff is far from being mature.


Yes, because not complaining that we are being treated like children would be the right and "mature" thing to do. 


Then every game should have sex scenes! Because we are no children!


This is a very cinematic game with many mature themes. I'm not talking about putting nudity in Spyro, you clearly don't understand that.


Yeah, and? mature themes = sex scenes too? Come on, the sex happens, we just don't see it. There's tons of games with mature themes and no sex. Anyway, in ME1, it was like 10 sec...


The sex happens but it should still be presented in a decent, adult manner similar to ME1. I never even cared to try to get the sex scenes in ME2 or ME1 because they weren't important to me. However, the fact that people get so up in arms about a bodily organ or touching, enough to scare away artists from representing this in a decent fashion, does ****** me off. 

Modifié par KBlaut, 06 février 2010 - 08:14 .


#94
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kblaut i have the same view i feel like i am being treated like a child and being over protected over this i think if its in the first one it should be in the second one.

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ReDSH1FT wrote...

It seems that violence today is glorified, and sex is taboo. 


Welcome to the American mind set.

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roundzero gun wrote...

kblaut i have the same view i feel like i am being treated like a child and being over protected over this i think if its in the first one it should be in the second one.


Agreed

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All these threads remind me of Japanese guys nerd-raging on the size and shape of the censorship pixels in Japanese adult entertainment.

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The love scene in Mass Effect with Liara was masterfully done. It represented the consumation of the emotional connection between the two characters as well as providing character development for each. It was plot and character driven.



If Mr. Woo thinks that equates to softcore porn he being hideously flippant and condesending about what his own company achieved with the original game.

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The issue isn't really the nudity, why can't people understand this. The problems many have had with Dragon Age and scenes like the Paragon Jack romance end is realism. In DA Morrigan put on clothes to have sex and apparently in ME2 Jack and Shepard (if it is sex) either had sex with clothes on or stripped-made love-completely redressed-crawled back into bed and cuddled... uh huh.



This would not be an issue if the scenes fade out and fade into cuddling under the sheets. It would imply the sex and it would still show the emotional aftershocks without the absurdity currently in the unmodded versions of DA and ME2.

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I completely agree with the OP. Instead of listening Bioware is pretty much insulting and or ignoring its user base.



Take this thread for instance

http://social.biowar.../index/923059/1



Instead of giving me a decent reply, bioware decided to close the thread. Hopefully I struck a chord but who knows.