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Millions of potatoes + thier tail pipes D:

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The problem with all of the theories on traversing the galaxy and uniting the different species to form a giant alliance to fight off the reapers is it's too close to DA:O's plot. Granted, it'd be cool to do, but I just don't see it happening.



Maybe they'll ally themselves in the background when they see the threat is real, but I doubt you'll have anything to do with it personally.

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IbramSkyheart wrote...

The problem with all of the theories on traversing the galaxy and uniting the different species to form a giant alliance to fight off the reapers is it's too close to DA:O's plot. Granted, it'd be cool to do, but I just don't see it happening.


Well, the concept has been used before, so why not now? However, I'm guessing that it might be that rather than us going around recruiting, any allies we made earlier on will simply appear in ME 3 if you helped them before, like the Ranchi or the Geth.

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Zemore wrote...

Millions of potatoes + thier tail pipes D:


Win.

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I like how a lot of the theories include infecting the fleet through one reaper.....if I have been listening to all the information right this isn't even an option. What it sounds like to me is that each reaper is bundle of multiple AI. That are localized in one reaper, each reaper is independent and is uninfluenced by the other reapers. they just all happen to have the same agenda

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VanguardtoDestruction wrote...

Yeah your right about that. A lot of people seem to think though that the Dark Energy will be used by the Reapers as a gateway into our Galaxy, not as a jail for thm though. I do not know what to believe about that as of now.

Also, when you talk about a Dark Energy bomb I forgot that I was going to add a "Doomsday Weapons" solution in my OP but that's ok I think that is pretty self explanatory.


I think that either Haestrom's sun is currently being converted into a wormhole for the Reaper fleet, or in ME3 we're going to have to lure them into that system and incite a supernova.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 11 février 2010 - 06:03 .


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Dark Specie wrote...

IbramSkyheart wrote...

The problem with all of the theories on traversing the galaxy and uniting the different species to form a giant alliance to fight off the reapers is it's too close to DA:O's plot. Granted, it'd be cool to do, but I just don't see it happening.


Well, the concept has been used before, so why not now? However, I'm guessing that it might be that rather than us going around recruiting, any allies we made earlier on will simply appear in ME 3 if you helped them before, like the Ranchi or the Geth.


This is far more likely.  The rachni queen has already stated they'll be there for us in the final fight.  I know the concept has been used before, but I think to use the same concept in two subsequent games by the same developer would be a little obvious.  And if we've learned anything at all up to now it's that BioWare doesn't like doing the obvious.  I think I'd be disappointed if they went with the obvious too, so personal preference has a large role in my argument.

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I think Mass Effect 3 will end with Shepard dying.

Shepard will have to make the choice of detonating some super-weapon that not only will destroy the Reapers, but Humanity and all sentient life in the galaxy as well.  (maybe Dark energy via centre of the galaxy?)

OR

He wont, and everybody BUT the Reapers die out, and the cycle repeats itself for the next races 50,000 years from then.

All those "allies" we're talking about probably wont even play a big role.  Maybe an extra cutscene during the final attack vs the Reapers or something, but thats about it.

Modifié par Just_mike, 11 février 2010 - 06:28 .


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Lasers.

Lots of lasers.



Srsly though, I'm sure if an individual reaper has their collective consciousness, why can't the whole fleet have some ludicrous, inextricable link that binds them all in some way or another? I mean, if they're hanging around outside the galaxy, that's a good easy 25,000 to 50,000 light years of difference in communication. They have to have something, given the apparent lack of reaper comm buoys just hanging out, doing comm buoy stuff.

If I had to guess at all, because God knows I don't know what BioWare's going to do, I'd assume there's some kind of "central", ultra-reaper that has to be dropped via some impossibly difficult, complex, super-heroic fashion. Or there'll just be lots of lasers.

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Sphaerus wrote...

Lasers.
Lots of lasers.

Srsly though, I'm sure if an individual reaper has their collective consciousness, why can't the whole fleet have some ludicrous, inextricable link that binds them all in some way or another? I mean, if they're hanging around outside the galaxy, that's a good easy 25,000 to 50,000 light years of difference in communication. They have to have something, given the apparent lack of reaper comm buoys just hanging out, doing comm buoy stuff.
If I had to guess at all, because God knows I don't know what BioWare's going to do, I'd assume there's some kind of "central", ultra-reaper that has to be dropped via some impossibly difficult, complex, super-heroic fashion. Or there'll just be lots of lasers.


Each Reaper is a nation, independent and free of all weakness.

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I think the only hope the galaxy has is to find a way to combat indoctrination. To me it seems the Reapers rely on indoctrinated races to attack planetside. Reapers can attack planets outright, but I believe it would make them more vulnerable to powerful planet based defenses.

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Just_mike wrote...]
Each Reaper is a nation, independent and free of all weakness.

I still hope that line is a reference to something, it's just too cool and epic to be original.

Sort of like Thane and his Leviathan quote.

Why don't space aliens ever have their OWN philosophers?  They always gotta be all, "Hey Earth-man, you know who was really smart?  YOUR HUMAN MARK TWAIN, OR SAMUEL CLEMENS, WHO SAID THIS."

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Just_mike wrote...

Sphaerus wrote...

Lasers.
Lots of lasers.

Srsly though, I'm sure if an individual reaper has their collective consciousness, why can't the whole fleet have some ludicrous, inextricable link that binds them all in some way or another? I mean, if they're hanging around outside the galaxy, that's a good easy 25,000 to 50,000 light years of difference in communication. They have to have something, given the apparent lack of reaper comm buoys just hanging out, doing comm buoy stuff.
If I had to guess at all, because God knows I don't know what BioWare's going to do, I'd assume there's some kind of "central", ultra-reaper that has to be dropped via some impossibly difficult, complex, super-heroic fashion. Or there'll just be lots of lasers.


Each Reaper is a nation, independent and free of all weakness.


so THEY say. Of course they would say that. If I wanted to kill you would I say "Oh, by the way, if you kick me in the quads right now it's going to save you from me stabbing you in the next 5 seconds."

Modifié par binaryemperor, 11 février 2010 - 06:34 .


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binaryemperor wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Sphaerus wrote...

Lasers.
Lots of lasers.

Srsly though, I'm sure if an individual reaper has their collective consciousness, why can't the whole fleet have some ludicrous, inextricable link that binds them all in some way or another? I mean, if they're hanging around outside the galaxy, that's a good easy 25,000 to 50,000 light years of difference in communication. They have to have something, given the apparent lack of reaper comm buoys just hanging out, doing comm buoy stuff.
If I had to guess at all, because God knows I don't know what BioWare's going to do, I'd assume there's some kind of "central", ultra-reaper that has to be dropped via some impossibly difficult, complex, super-heroic fashion. Or there'll just be lots of lasers.


Each Reaper is a nation, independent and free of all weakness.


so THEY say. Of course they would say that. If I wanted to kill you would I say "Oh, by the way, if you kick me in the quads right now it's going to save you from me stabbing you in the next 5 seconds."


Dont get me wrong, I intend on beating the Reapers when ME3 comes out.

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I think that Shepard will take a Reaper ship up to the Reaper core, uploading a virus that shuts their shields down, giving the other forces a small window to launch the galaxys largets allied fleet, which enables the defeat of the Reapers. Then Shepard shoots a nuke into said core, giving them only 30 seconds to escape, causing mild suspense when they are caught in the massive explosion.



Wait...



Actually Dark Energy or Anti-Matter would work wonderfully of used as a bomb in a sun or something large in the case of anti-matter.

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Better idea. Strangelets.

Turn reapers into undifferentiated quantum goo.

Galaxy saved, go home, have beer with Garrus, cuddle with Tali.

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I think the main theme is a simple "survival of the fittest" which the reapers have taken to the extreme. Their seeds are the mass effect technology which causes civilizations to develop along similar lines. By harvesting the races after 50,000 years they can examine which were the biggest threats compared to previous harvests. They will then incorporate the traits of the dominant species into their own and thus improve their chances of survival for the future. The previous cycle got them the protheans and in the current one the humans are their likely target.

We are outnumbered so a total war doesn't seem likely. If the reapers have a central base of operations then that might be a target, otherwise negotiations are a way out. Or, if we know how they incorporate these traits, we can set a trap to give them samples which modify the traits they are after, much like a virus, and bring them down that way.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 février 2010 - 06:56 .


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Shepard is going to challenge them to a walk-off, Zoolander style, and the Reapers' chosen representative will lose because Reapers do not wear underpants.

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I'm betting on an Independence Day solution. Jeff Goldblum is going to get drunk, write a computer virus, and then have Will Smith fly him up to the Reaper Mothership to upload the virus. What makes me sad, this solution most likely HAS crossed the lead developer's desk at BioWare.

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Vigil in ME1 already told us that the reapers are dormant in dark space and thus vulnerable. I think that ME3 will depend a great deal on what we achieved in the first two. If Wrex is alive and has united the Krogan clans for instance. I think that ME3 will also involve both uniting the organic + Geth races as well as finding a way into dark space where it would be logical to think that while 99% of the reapers are dormant one or two watchdogs would have been left awake. Of course I could be way off base here.

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 *Dunno if the parody was done yet in this thread*

Beating the reapers will involve driving out space ships suicidilly into their unprotected underbelly right before they fire their green laser beam of doom.  After we figure this out, we must send out our discovery in morse code to everyone in the galaxy, and have an one liner about promising tali fireworks.

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Just_mike wrote...

I think Mass Effect 3 will end with Shepard dying.

Shepard will have to make the choice of detonating some super-weapon that not only will destroy the Reapers, but Humanity and all sentient life in the galaxy as well.  (maybe Dark energy via centre of the galaxy?)

OR

He wont, and everybody BUT the Reapers die out, and the cycle repeats itself for the next races 50,000 years from then.

All those "allies" we're talking about probably wont even play a big role.  Maybe an extra cutscene during the final attack vs the Reapers or something, but thats about it.


That sounds waaaaaay too depressing for being something Bioware would writte, if you ask me...Image IPB

Modifié par Dark Specie, 11 février 2010 - 07:29 .


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I don't know how you are gonna defeat the reapers but I'm gonna at least take one of them out by pissing in their hard-drive.



*renegade +10*

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It all still sounds like deus ex machina to me. Sorry.



I think Ashely had it right in the first one. The comment about being infantry and rifles not being good against reapers or something.

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notphrog wrote...
I think Ashely had it right in the first one. The comment about being infantry and rifles not being good against reapers or something.


Still reckon they may have ground forces at places, for whatever reasons (Geth Herectics, husks, surviving collectors, indoctorinated people, etc), so it ain't like the infantry and their rifles will be completely useless Image IPB